Which game do you think comes close to being perfect?

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miva2

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Quorothorn said:
miva2 said:
Quorothorn said:
As a series, Ratchet & Clank is definitely near the edge of perfection, as well.
no it isn't .____.
the controls are annoying, there are some cool characters(Captain Qwark, Courtney Gears) but most are uninteresting and i don't remember any enemies anymore (except some slimeish monsters in R&C3 where you got to collect the sewer crystals, i spent a lot of time there. that place reminded me of oldskool FPS's). the weapon designs are awesome though, some environments were really nice and it has good music sometimes.
there's also nothing new or really original in it. not that that is needed to be a perfect game, but it does make the player more interested in the game and makes you more forgiving wih the minor flaws.
it's made by very talented people and i have a lot of respect for them, but the game doesn't come close to perfection.
Ah, here we get into the question of exactly what a "near perfect game" IS. The lack of creativity in enemy design in the R&C series rarely registers for me here. Certainly I love unique and interesting enemy design (such as in DMC), but when it's not present, I don't truly notice.

Though I am curious as to what you didn't like about the controls, as they always have felt quite good to me, never getting in my way. Did they just feel stiff to you, or is it something more?
well, lack of creativity doesn't make a bad game, but then the rest should be done damn good.
creative designs make everything seem much better. thus, coming closer to perfection.
First, I pretty much suck in third person shooters and I also happen to suck in platforming, which might have had a negative influence on my experience with R&C. I have no complaints about the movement itself but shooting enemies in one direction while running/jumping in the opposite direction doesn't happen very 'controlled' in these games. You have to lose focus of the battle in order to control the platforming aspect and vice versa. I didn't like that.
the games were fun to play for a while but not more than that, imo.

@F_I_D_O: i know, i was just stating that i don't agree. If i can persuade him that he's wrong (in my opinion) then it is not a near perfect game anymore. If he thinks my opinion is irrelevant, then there might be a population to who R&C is 'perfect'.
 

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I'll have to live up to my avatar and say Portal. However, it did have some flaws. Minor flaws, but flaws nonetheless.

Carrying things was just awkward.
The boss fight was boring.
I felt there should have been more levels that demanded lightning-fast portal action, and more epic turret battles.
Also, it's a puzzle game, meaning there is minimal replayability.

What caused its near-perfection is that it was an original idea, and the dev team recognised that. They made the game as long as the concept allowed and ended it right before it became boring. They also kept it extremely simple. There is, basically, one gameplay mechanic, and because of that it didn't feel like it was trying too hard to be more interesting when it didn't need to.

I'm worried that Portal 2 won't manage this, as it's a longer game and it adds several new gameplay elements which may overcomplicate it.

I put my trust in Valve.
 

zestamaster

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fallout 1,2 and 3 merely the immersive experince alone makes it very good but the run and gun was a little stiff
 

Ildecia

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as yahzee said modern warefare 2

but thats technically. I would have to say that Armored Core Last Raven is in the same sense, statistically perfect. Bullets come out of your guns, your leg and arm parts of the mech can only hold a certain weight, and your boosters overheat.

On the "preference" side of the debate; i Have to pull a few names which stand out as my favorites
Mystical ninja Starring Goemon, Legend of Zelda series, Paper Mario Trilogy, Metroid Prime Trilogy, Guild wars (with a little bit more freedom please!) Aion (with more quests... i ran out at level 34).
 

BigSuze

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Oblivion. Mainly because it was one of the only games I could get completely immersed in.
 

Talvrae

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Super Metroid was perfect for a game on the SNES...
Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 2 was close to mark too... Baldur's Gate 2 Throne of Bhaal is actually perfect for his time frame
 

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Resistance: Fall of Man, or Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.

Those games are just great.
 

birdmaster

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jump ultimate stars for the ds

over 50 playable characters check
story mode check
challenging check
secrets check
almost perfectly balanced check
portable check
excellent online multiplayer with and without friend codes check
tons of extras check
challenges check
great strategy needed for a great team check
back ground info on ever character check
 

Druyn

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I agree with OP on ME2. FIrst could have used a lot of work, and it got a lot of work. Other than that, I stand by Fallout 3. Everything about that game, the original game, excluding the ending of course, was perfect in my eyes.
 

lacktheknack

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zestamaster said:
fallout 1,2 and 3 merely the immersive experince alone makes it very good but the run and gun was a little stiff
Fallout 1 and 2 didn't have run and gun, per se.
 

PuffyMuffin92

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I would have to say Oblivion. It's a huge game that offers a lot of different experiences. Its really all you could ever ask for in a RPG
 

natster43

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Paper Mario The Thousand Year Door.
Portal.
Shadow of the Colossus.
Okami.
Marvel VS Capcom 2.
Super Mario Bros 3.
Probably the most perfect games in those fields in my opinion.
 

Talvrae

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Come to think about it... remove Killer Croc part from BAtman: Arkham Asylum and you have a perfect game
 

Arduras

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Deus Ex - Fantastic story, good amount of choice with style of gameplay, but shitty graphics and some dull moments.

Baldur's Gate II - Great story, plenty of side quests (that are actually fun), awesome character interaction (the cat fights between the LI's and such) and entertaining gameplay.

Prince of Persia (bar the new one) - Yeah, its just fun :)