I think you're using the ESRB (and PEGI/USK/CERO/whatever) ratings wrong... A T rating just means 'we find the content suitable for children aged 13 and up'. It often has little to do with the target audience the developer/publisher has in mind. For instance, Nintendo wanted Wii Sports to be played by pretty much everyone. It has a PEGI rating of 3, but that hasn't stopped anyone from putting Wiis in nursing homes. Or, hey, games like Professor Layton are rated E or 3, but they're not very enjoyable if you can't read well enough to udnerstand the puzzles and follow the plot. While the content might be safe, they're not a good choice for most children under 8.EyeReaper said:Oh yeah, plenty if you go by the ESRB. I have a hard time calling myself "mature," I stopped being a teen a couple years ago, and I most certainly cannot speak for everyone. In technicality, The only rating I purely and accurately represent is AO.
Oh man, persona 3P! I had a very similar experience with Shinji. I originally hadn't planned to couple the female avatar with anyone, and certainly not Shinji, given that I knew what happens to him later on. But I found the pairing to be really cute and fitting, so I just went with it. That scene with him in the hospital when your keepsake saved him... the feels... Makes even his involvement in the final battle really romantic, if you think about it.Dreiko said:I enjoy otomege which have good stories just like any other visual novel which does the same. (otomege are basically dating sims aimed at women)
The reason is that even when the game is full of pretty girls fawning at me, I still primarily am there for the interesting plot, and fanservice is just a bonus, as opposed to the main reason to play these games, hence once you remove it its still enjoyable to play these games as long as the story is good. My masculinity is not threatened by playing as a female protag with the hots for a bunch of guys, as I never actually put myself in the player character and merely observe it as an outsider, always considering their thoughts as solely theirs.
A prime example of this concept is persona 3 portable and the female protagonist route. Game is still interesting so the fact that you get less attention by cute girls isn't as big of an issue and you still get a lot of char development for the male chars even if the romance part of it isn't arousing at all. Just having a way to save Shinji is worth it, in an entirely platonic way too.
Hakuoki (ps3 ver) is my fav otomege, super epc samurai/fantasy story. Highly reccomended.ManutheBloodedge said:Oh man, persona 3P! I had a very similar experience with Shinji. I originally hadn't planned to couple the female avatar with anyone, and certainly not Shinji, given that I knew what happens to him later on. But I found the pairing to be really cute and fitting, so I just went with it. That scene with him in the hospital when your keepsake saved him... the feels... Makes even his involvement in the final battle really romantic, if you think about it.Dreiko said:I enjoy otomege which have good stories just like any other visual novel which does the same. (otomege are basically dating sims aimed at women)
The reason is that even when the game is full of pretty girls fawning at me, I still primarily am there for the interesting plot, and fanservice is just a bonus, as opposed to the main reason to play these games, hence once you remove it its still enjoyable to play these games as long as the story is good. My masculinity is not threatened by playing as a female protag with the hots for a bunch of guys, as I never actually put myself in the player character and merely observe it as an outsider, always considering their thoughts as solely theirs.
A prime example of this concept is persona 3 portable and the female protagonist route. Game is still interesting so the fact that you get less attention by cute girls isn't as big of an issue and you still get a lot of char development for the male chars even if the romance part of it isn't arousing at all. Just having a way to save Shinji is worth it, in an entirely platonic way too.
I play VNs a lot, but not ones with a female protagonist. Basically I'm playing Kindred Spirits on the Roof and that's it. Can you recommend me some good ones?
Though I don't get the arousing part. Is the romance less arousing because you play the woman? I normally find romance in games... well, romantic, not arousing. But that might just be me.
Nah man, the game is more "single for life!" than anything. It depends on which ending you get and stuff but the true ending is basically bachelor life ftw lol. Vincent isn't a one night stand type guy either, he is a passive guy who gets hit on and is toyed with and just kinda goes along with it cause sex. He isn't really the one seeking it out.BuildsLegos said:It's obvious to anyone who plays Catherine, that was a game tailor-made to convince one-night-standers to get hitched. I enjoyed the puzzles and the story was ok; but I avoid any kind of intamacy, so the conflict is distinctly lost on me.