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Kalezian said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
So I was reading up on the DC Universe, and it turns out they have an entire earth were the superheroes genders are swapped and that got me thinking....

Why don't they have a universe where everyone's race would be swapped? So you'd have Black Batman, Black Superman, Asian Green Lantern... and most importantly, WHITE LUKE CAGE! I mean, why not?

chances are, knowing DC, there is....


AND YOU CAN READ ABOUT IT IN THE NEXT PRE-REBOOT SAGA!


oh dear god DC, dont do it, please dont.


But yea, with the whole Crisis on Infinite Earths shit, who knows, there could be.

Just like how there could be a DC universe where every character is a child, gay, furries, in highschool, villains being the super heroes, 'superheroes being batman', batman actually having super powers, ect.

The addition of the though of a multiverse allows for very........ confusing characters mash-ups, I mean, remember when Deadpool met Deathstroke?

yea, that was weird.


But for a more recent example, Young Justice [the t.v. series] takes place on Earth-16 of DC's clusterfuck multiverse, so you never know!
At least DC didn't just kill off it's animated universe like Marvel did... yeah remember the X-Men characters you grew up with watching and loving? They're dead. They're universe was destroyed, making all that struggling that they went through ultimately pointless.

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SaneAmongInsane said:
So I was reading up on the DC Universe, and it turns out they have an entire earth were the superheroes genders are swapped and that got me thinking....

Why don't they have a universe where everyone's race would be swapped? So you'd have Black Batman, Black Superman, Asian Green Lantern... and most importantly, WHITE LUKE CAGE! I mean, why not?
because it would remind me of the Blaxploitation era


and it would be pointless
That would be the point really... I just think a white luke cage would be funny, but not racists because we as white people would give Black people Black Batman. He'll every superhero should just have 4 issues come out, each with hero in a different ethnicity. Everythings the same, just in one world Batman is black. In another he's asian. you get the idea.

....actually heres a thought, how do you do Black Joker? Do you give him the same skin deseas as Micheal Jackson or just make it reverse-black face?

I just think the concept of superheros swapping races is funny.

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Starik20X6 said:
Have to agree with this. Race isn't a binary thing... Wait a minute. Now I'm thinking: in the universe where genders are swapped, what happens to transgendered characters? Hermaphrodites?
I'd imagine transgendered characters (do those even exist in the DC universe?) would just reverse their own gender swap, so someone who was born male but felt female would be the other way around and vice versa, while hermaphrodites would either not change or have the opposite problem (boobs and a penis to a beard with a vagina, and so on), depending on what they had to begin with.


And I agree; race isn't a binary thing, although to see the race distribution in comics, you could be excused for not realizing it. Seriously, I can name maybe three or four black heroes, no Hispanic or Asian heroes, one Asian villain, one Native American hero (if I'm remembering right) and then everyone else is white. Not a good mix.
I can think of a couple of hispanic heroes, there's the current Blue Beetle, that ninja in the Marvel Universe called Echo, Mas y Menos on the DC Univerese [small](I hate them)[/small], I think there is also maybe a spider girl type character called Araña, and that's about it, kinda weird that I knew that since I don't read comics, I don't know of other races though.
Also Spiderman is now hispanic. We've lost White Spiderman :(
 

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rhizhim said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
rhizhim said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
So I was reading up on the DC Universe, and it turns out they have an entire earth were the superheroes genders are swapped and that got me thinking....

Why don't they have a universe where everyone's race would be swapped? So you'd have Black Batman, Black Superman, Asian Green Lantern... and most importantly, WHITE LUKE CAGE! I mean, why not?
because it would remind me of the Blaxploitation era


and it would be pointless
That would be the point really... I just think a white luke cage would be funny, but not racists because we as white people would give Black people Black Batman. He'll every superhero should just have 4 issues come out, each with hero in a different ethnicity. Everythings the same, just in one world Batman is black. In another he's asian. you get the idea.

....actually heres a thought, how do you do Black Joker? Do you give him the same skin deseas as Micheal Jackson or just make it reverse-black face?

I just think the concept of superheros swapping races is funny.
the blaxploitation era was so damn racist.(every white male is evil and all white chicks are hypocritical sluts)

so you think the superheros would change their behavor according to their skin colour?

so the joker would look like this

and call batman this dark brother.


and black superman would sometimes have
?

sorry but no. changing some heros skin colour to justify stereotypical behavor would make marvel and dc be on the same level as early disney.
No no... if Luke Cage was white he'd still act like a blaxpoitation superhero, just ya know... white.

Just the same, Black Batman would still be Batman. I mean maybe he'd beat up Klan members more often, but he'd still be Batman.

And superman would be asian, and know kung fu. Not because he's asian, just because he likes Kung Fu in this universe.

XD
 

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Also Spiderman is now hispanic. We've lost White Spiderman :(
Wait, Spider-Man is now hispanic? Neat.
I didn't lose anything I'm actually Mexican, so I've got no reason to be upset over that, also Peter Parker was a little annoying to me, so I don't mind the change to Pedro Perez or whatever his name is.
 

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Because Batman kicks Space Magic in the daddy bags before ninja ganking it's evil leader, Space Wizard, of course.

If only Batman had been in the Mass Effect 3 ending..


It'd also be quite the selective (and awkward) plot device.
 

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Well, Luke Cage is Marvel and the rest of the ones you listed are DC. So such a universe could not exist.
All the more reason. We have Black Nick Fury now, the time is right for White Luke Cage! The world is ready!
Only the Ultimate Universe's Nick Fury is black. Normal Marvel 616 is the old fashioned white Nick Fury still.
That, my friend is where you are wrong...with The Avengers coming out, Marvel saw making Nick Fury black as a good way to make more cash....and so I present you with 616, Marcus Johnson, aka black Nick Fury, aka Nick Fury Jr., aka guy who just happened to get his eye removed a couple issues after his reveal, aka kid that Nick Fury hasn't talked about for 35 years but is really his son, aka guy who's name really is Nick Fury after his father but was changed to Marcus Johnson to "protect his identity", aka Marvel done fucked up this time...

 

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this is the dumbest thread I've stumbled in to in a long time.

White Luke Cage doesn't work because "blackness" is his most defining characteristic. If you take that away, the guy's basically got nothing.

I'm not saying that's good, but that's how it is.

Now, can we take away his blackness for a couple issues to see how he deals with it? sure? It's probably already been done.
 
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Kaleion said:
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Kaleion said:
Also Spiderman is now hispanic. We've lost White Spiderman :(
Wait, Spider-Man is now hispanic? Neat.
I didn't lose anything I'm actually Mexican, so I've got no reason to be upset over that, also Peter Parker was a little annoying to me, so I don't mind the change to Pedro Perez or whatever his name is.
Spiderman 2099 was part Hispanic, atleast I think he was with a name like Miguel O'Hara.
 

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Spider-Man 2099 was half-hispanic, half-Irish. Current Ultimate Spider-Man is half-Latino, half-African-American. Batman has Batman Incorporated which means there are all sorts of Batmans of various racial identities. Green Lantern already has racial/gender diversity. Superman has been alternately portrayed by various races/genders. X-Men cast of ever changing Darwin's Chex Mix rejects covers pretty much every single societal color, gender, race, ethnicity, sexuality, and religion out there.

You want a field that could use more diversity? Villains. They need better motivations. Batman has some well written villains, but pretty much everywhere else is a White Male Dominate The World fest.
 

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this is the dumbest thread I've stumbled in to in a long time.

White Luke Cage doesn't work because "blackness" is his most defining characteristic. If you take that away, the guy's basically got nothing.

I'm not saying that's good, but that's how it is.

Now, can we take away his blackness for a couple issues to see how he deals with it? sure? It's probably already been done.
It's suppose to be. the whole idea is just silly nonsense.

....Actually I think thats better. It could be an event where every character is suddenly a different race and their struggles with it... like Batman catching shit from the TSA because he's suddenly arab.

Crisis In Infinite Skin Colors
 

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maddawg IAJI said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
So I was reading up on the DC Universe, and it turns out they have an entire earth were the superheroes genders are swapped and that got me thinking....

Why don't they have a universe where everyone's race would be swapped? So you'd have Black Batman, Black Superman, Asian Green Lantern... and most importantly, WHITE LUKE CAGE! I mean, why not?
....Except Luke Cage is from Marvel, not DC, making the argument a tad bit lackluster, but basically its because there isn't a polar opposite in race like there is in gender. It would also fuck up a lot of characters (See the Black Panther).

Also, wanting a White Luke Cage seems really stupid in my opinion. The character is famous because he was the first black superhero to have success in his own comic. In a sense, several people consider him to be the character who broke the color barrier of Marvel Comics. The only reason why they changed Nick Fury's skin color is largely because Marvel believed they could get away with it, its not the same situation with Cage.
Damn, you stole my Black Panther argument. Quick have to think some more! Magneto! Red Skull! Storm! Thor!
 

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It's suppose to be. the whole idea is just silly nonsense.

....Actually I think thats better. It could be an event where every character is suddenly a different race and their struggles with it... like Batman catching shit from the TSA because he's suddenly arab.

Crisis In Infinite Skin Colors
Oh...yeah, that'd almost certainly suck, but if done well, it could be a hilariously unsubtle way of telling the audience how bad racism is.

Like that star trek episode about the war between the people who are black on the left and white on the right, and the other people who are the other way around.
 

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ThePenguinKnight said:
maddawg IAJI said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
So I was reading up on the DC Universe, and it turns out they have an entire earth were the superheroes genders are swapped and that got me thinking....

Why don't they have a universe where everyone's race would be swapped? So you'd have Black Batman, Black Superman, Asian Green Lantern... and most importantly, WHITE LUKE CAGE! I mean, why not?
....Except Luke Cage is from Marvel, not DC, making the argument a tad bit lackluster, but basically its because there isn't a polar opposite in race like there is in gender. It would also fuck up a lot of characters (See the Black Panther).

Also, wanting a White Luke Cage seems really stupid in my opinion. The character is famous because he was the first black superhero to have success in his own comic. In a sense, several people consider him to be the character who broke the color barrier of Marvel Comics. The only reason why they changed Nick Fury's skin color is largely because Marvel believed they could get away with it, its not the same situation with Cage.
Damn, you stole my Black Panther argument. Quick have to think some more! Magneto! Red Skull! Storm! Thor!
Oh! Oh! Oh! How about Colossus!? He's Russian! How can you make a black rus- Oh wait, Lenny Kravitz is a Black-Russian, never mind.