Who is the Greatest Space Marine?
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well they dont let him speak or give him a personality because it's meant to be YOUPirateKing said:
he isnt a space marine, he isnt wearing any armor, he doesnt have balls, he isnt suposed to even be on a battle field, he is treated as a god, whereas he should be treated as a regular person, the tidalwave of shit that disqualifies Master Chief from this list is so huge as to not be remotely funny, and that isnt even counting the fact that we already desided he isnt allowedVrex360 said:
...yep I know I'm gonna be flamed but honestly the best space marine right here. Otherwise though I'd go with Ellen Ripley.
Man. There's a ton of this in the thread. It comes from people who have a minimal understanding of why the military is the way that it is.toapat said:
"Marine" is a term for a soldier who engages in amphibious or naval infantry operations. Historically, a lot of the fighting marines did was ship-to-ship or assaulting ports. The existence of marines as an independent military command is a recent innovation, and it's not universal; many world militaries still have their marines fully integrated with their navies -- that doesn't make them not "marines".
The US Marine Corp is rather special. In recent history, it's been developed into a force devoted to massive combined-arms force projection from the sea. Most nations don't have fleets designed to support that (due to limited resources or different military doctrine).
(Moreover, "space marine" is a genre term that covers more than just people who do regular marine stuff in space.)
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toapat said:he isnt a space marine, he isnt wearing any armor, he doesnt have balls, he isnt suposed to even be on a battle field, he is treated as a god, whereas he should be treated as a regular person, the tidalwave of shit that disqualifies Master Chief from this list is so huge as to not be remotely funny, and that isnt even counting the fact that we already desided he isnt allowedVrex360 said:
...yep I know I'm gonna be flamed but honestly the best space marine right here. Otherwise though I'd go with Ellen Ripley.
... and there came the flaming. I knew it, yet I said it anyway.
Okay for starters are you blind? He is clearly wearing armour as that's all you can see? Second.. no balls? That's something a thirteen year old says about a guy in High school who picks on him, I can't imagine you actuall having a personal grudge against a fictional character so I'll disregard that. He is clearly meant to be on the battlefield as he was part of a program that bred him and others like him soley for the sake of BEING a super soldier with no other purpose EXCEPT the battlefield (Vrex sighed at the depth of nerdiness in that statement). Next up please explain how he is treated like a god, he is considered a super powerful highly trained soldier as that's what he is... in fact these days people like you flaming with misguided attempts at insults are much more common so the idea that he 'is reated as god' is absurd. He shouldn't really be treated like a normal person either as he's a video game character not a person.. a video game character who does Marine-like activities usually in Space... *gasp* like a SPACE MARINE. So where is this tidalwave of shit that disqualifies him exactly? Finally if he wasn't allowed on this list I said Ellen Ripley as a secondary. So if my opinion offended you so deeply then ignore it instead pretend I said Ripley. Sorry if I didn't realise he wasn't allowed in this thread I must have missed the board meeting.
Note: However if you don't think he's the greatest marine and disagree then I can respect that, however you can't just spam my post with ridiculous statements without expecting some kind of reaction.
Eliphas the Inheritor even though he is a chaos space marine. Also the tau (who said space marines needed to be human) La'Kais.
Since MP3 ive learned why Samus keeps her suit on at all times. The reason is that all the soldiers are male in the GF. Besides that she is still epic.
Since MP3 ive learned why Samus keeps her suit on at all times. The reason is that all the soldiers are male in the GF. Besides that she is still epic.
Ellen Ripley wasn't a marine. She was a freighter pilot. She lost her license after the first movie and resorted to work in the loading docks in a power loader (She has a class B license). Basically, she's nothing but a space warehouse worker.
It's also worth noting that Master Chief, if it is indeed a statement of rank and not some sort of nick name is actually in the Navy, presuming that the rank structure is based on the American system (and, given the game was made by Bungie I suspect this is indeed the case). In fact, Master Chief is the naval enlisted rank of E-7, making him a senior non-commissioned officer. The Seargent Major, however is likely a marine as Sergeant Major is in fact a marine E-9. Technically, the Sergeant Major outranks the Master Chief, which is odd as the Sergeant Major ever once attempts to give the Chief an order even though he is well within his rights (and probably more qualified than most of the fools giving orders). It's worth further noting that the Sergeant Major's position is one of "advisor", and is normally only found in higher echalons of command (Batallion and up). The highest ranekd enlisted man that purposefully takes the battlefield is that of First Sergeant - the senior NCO of a company sized element (true on both the army and marines).
The Master Chief as a E-7 would fill the role of senior NCO for a platoon sized element, whereas the E-6 rank is usually a squad leader and the E-5 rank (Sergeant) is the rank of a team leader.
Of course it's in space and a total war for the survival of the species is being waged so I suppose the rules may change.
It's also worth noting that Master Chief, if it is indeed a statement of rank and not some sort of nick name is actually in the Navy, presuming that the rank structure is based on the American system (and, given the game was made by Bungie I suspect this is indeed the case). In fact, Master Chief is the naval enlisted rank of E-7, making him a senior non-commissioned officer. The Seargent Major, however is likely a marine as Sergeant Major is in fact a marine E-9. Technically, the Sergeant Major outranks the Master Chief, which is odd as the Sergeant Major ever once attempts to give the Chief an order even though he is well within his rights (and probably more qualified than most of the fools giving orders). It's worth further noting that the Sergeant Major's position is one of "advisor", and is normally only found in higher echalons of command (Batallion and up). The highest ranekd enlisted man that purposefully takes the battlefield is that of First Sergeant - the senior NCO of a company sized element (true on both the army and marines).
The Master Chief as a E-7 would fill the role of senior NCO for a platoon sized element, whereas the E-6 rank is usually a squad leader and the E-5 rank (Sergeant) is the rank of a team leader.
Of course it's in space and a total war for the survival of the species is being waged so I suppose the rules may change.
Marneus Augustus Calgar.
He defeated an avatar of the Eldar war god in single-handed combat, held a gate for a day and a night against an Ork horde ALONE and led the assault against a Tyranid Hive Ship. He is Chapter Master of the Ultramarines and Lord of Macragge. And total fucking badass.
You want The best Sace Marine???
Johnny Rico from Starship Troopers! he is the original space marine!
Starship Troopers (book) was the first EVER usage of the term 'Space Marine'.
you can't beat that. even though there are some pretty good ones, everyone normally forgets the origins. so...
Johnny Rico FTW!
Johnny Rico from Starship Troopers! he is the original space marine!
Starship Troopers (book) was the first EVER usage of the term 'Space Marine'.
you can't beat that. even though there are some pretty good ones, everyone normally forgets the origins. so...
Johnny Rico FTW!