Who is the most powerful Superhero? - Can't seem to trump Silver Age Superman

[Player 2]

If we're disallowing Dr. Manhattan on the basis that he isn't a hero, then here's some evidence that superman shouldn't be counted as a hero either; http://www.superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=28&Itemid=45

Spoiler: Clearly a terrible person

 

[Lonely Swordsman]

Arguably more of a villain under contract for the good guys than actually a hero, but I'm gonna bring him up anyway: Dark Schneider from Bastard.
The guy is as good as unkillable (and even if his body is destroyed, he can just will himself into existance again, which takes him mere hours) and has power over magic ranging from napalm carpet bombing to nuclear explosions. Hell, one of his spells even REQUIRES that he traps his target in a pocket dimension first, because the blast from the explosion would otherwise be so strong that it would tear apart the planet.
Plus, all the incantations for his spells are lyrics from heavy metal songs. Dark Schneider bends reality to his will with the power of ROCK. You do not get much more badass than that.

 

[plotter]

there is no limit to the hulks power the madder he get the stronger he gets, and in world war hulk he kicked everyone's ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._DC#Primary_Matches

No ... he hasn't!

And that was facing off against the weaker modern-era supes rather than the over-powered Silver Age Superman.

there is no limit to the hulks power. go to marvel character profiles if you dont believe me.

There is no limit to his power depending on how mad he gets. His power is conditional, which in my mind counts against him. If Superman were in the mood to kill, Supes could drop Hulk on Mars and let him die.

the hulk can survive in the vacuum of outer space. anyway you cant kill anger incarnate and superman's a boyscout and would never do that. also i dont even know if i would consider superman a hero or just a weapon for the government.

A weapon of the government? Have you even read DC continuity outside of Frank Miller's DKR? He's never been a government pawn, most especially when Lex Luthor was the President.

And the Hulk is not anger incarnate. He has to keep getting more and more angry. His power is conditional. As was pointed out, given the chance, Superman could more then likely calm him down. Besides, it's not like Superman hasn't beat the Hulk before.

EDIT: and as if the Hulk is more of a Superhero then Superman. He fucking leveled Manhatten in World War Hulk. He was all about vengence. You claim Superman isn't a hero but the Hulk is? That's a very weak argument.

i never said the hulk was more of a superhero than superman so don't get your fanboy panties in a wad. i just said that superman's a boyscout and im not just talking about in frank millers dkr i mean in general. he wont work outside of the law to do whats necessary like batman or other superheroes would, and since the government makes the law who then does he work for? there was a time when superman was a badass, but his character has been so watered down hes boring and seems two dimensional now. also getting back to the hulk i would say that superman IS more of a superhero than he is even though that doesn't make me like superman anymore than i do now. the hulk started as a villain and i think now treads the line between hero and villain and that's what makes him interesting.

oh and when i said he was anger incarnate i was using that title poetically not literally. who is literally anger incarnate? no one.

...So yeah, you've pretty much not picked up a Superman comic ever, from what it sounds like. It's not like Superman was ever a fugitive (Superman/Batman: Public Enemies), or that he lives his life completely outside of the law (He flies around the world, interacting with different countries with no diplomatic ties to pretty much any of them, not to mention the very fact that he fights crime, which makes him technically a vigilante). Your argument is that he's working for the government because he tries to abide by the law? That's like saying that by trying to abide by the law, that you, in fact are a tool of the government, and I'm sure that Superman probably breaks more domestic and international laws everyday then you do. Although I do like, that when your argument is backed into a corner, you think my "panties are in a wad". I hate to tell you this sport, but thoroughness doesn't indicate that my blood pressure has spiked. So calm down, and don't take this so personally.

The whole "boring" and "2 dimensional" thing, is a matter of opinion, but again, it really sounds like you haven't picked up an issue of Superman in a very long time. Clearly there is something to him, because most writers (Geoff Johns included) say Superman is amongst their favorite character to write for.

Regardless, we've now degraded to the point where you aren't even arguing the "Power" issue anymore, now you're only attacking Superman's character...which is kind of weak.

the only reason im not arguing the "power" issue in my last comment is because i am responding to your last comment which had nothing to do with the "power" issue.

i dont understand if my wording isnt clear enough or if your just pulling stuff out of the air, but i never said that superman was ever a fugitive. also seeing as how we are taking directly to each other sport it's personal enough for me. i dont care what Geoff Johns thinks about superman i just dont like him. by your responses i am under the impression that you dont really read my comments but rather quickly skim through them then attack me. so go play this futile game with someone else conversation over.

Superman was also supposed to be a villain, but as a villain, DC turned him down, only to re accept him as a hero. His story is based on the myth of the Golem from Babylon, from Jewish Talmudic stories. This is most seen in the story arc where superman is controlled by an alien to go insane and attack earth.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

All-Star Superman could trump Silver Age Superman, however this is just a technicality.

All-Star Superman is a reinterpretation of the Silver Age Superman, and hence has the same powerlevel but it is covered in much more detail, hence making All Star Superman seem far more powerful. He also seems to have a lot more knowledge about his abilities than Silver Age Superman proper and might be able to tap into capabilities that Classic Silver Age Superman doesn't know he has.

 

[VicunaBlue]

Dr. manhatten

 

[dwightsteel]

there is no limit to the hulks power the madder he get the stronger he gets, and in world war hulk he kicked everyone's ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._DC#Primary_Matches

No ... he hasn't!

And that was facing off against the weaker modern-era supes rather than the over-powered Silver Age Superman.

there is no limit to the hulks power. go to marvel character profiles if you dont believe me.

There is no limit to his power depending on how mad he gets. His power is conditional, which in my mind counts against him. If Superman were in the mood to kill, Supes could drop Hulk on Mars and let him die.

the hulk can survive in the vacuum of outer space. anyway you cant kill anger incarnate and superman's a boyscout and would never do that. also i dont even know if i would consider superman a hero or just a weapon for the government.

A weapon of the government? Have you even read DC continuity outside of Frank Miller's DKR? He's never been a government pawn, most especially when Lex Luthor was the President.

And the Hulk is not anger incarnate. He has to keep getting more and more angry. His power is conditional. As was pointed out, given the chance, Superman could more then likely calm him down. Besides, it's not like Superman hasn't beat the Hulk before.

EDIT: and as if the Hulk is more of a Superhero then Superman. He fucking leveled Manhatten in World War Hulk. He was all about vengence. You claim Superman isn't a hero but the Hulk is? That's a very weak argument.

i never said the hulk was more of a superhero than superman so don't get your fanboy panties in a wad. i just said that superman's a boyscout and im not just talking about in frank millers dkr i mean in general. he wont work outside of the law to do whats necessary like batman or other superheroes would, and since the government makes the law who then does he work for? there was a time when superman was a badass, but his character has been so watered down hes boring and seems two dimensional now. also getting back to the hulk i would say that superman IS more of a superhero than he is even though that doesn't make me like superman anymore than i do now. the hulk started as a villain and i think now treads the line between hero and villain and that's what makes him interesting.

oh and when i said he was anger incarnate i was using that title poetically not literally. who is literally anger incarnate? no one.

...So yeah, you've pretty much not picked up a Superman comic ever, from what it sounds like. It's not like Superman was ever a fugitive (Superman/Batman: Public Enemies), or that he lives his life completely outside of the law (He flies around the world, interacting with different countries with no diplomatic ties to pretty much any of them, not to mention the very fact that he fights crime, which makes him technically a vigilante). Your argument is that he's working for the government because he tries to abide by the law? That's like saying that by trying to abide by the law, that you, in fact are a tool of the government, and I'm sure that Superman probably breaks more domestic and international laws everyday then you do. Although I do like, that when your argument is backed into a corner, you think my "panties are in a wad". I hate to tell you this sport, but thoroughness doesn't indicate that my blood pressure has spiked. So calm down, and don't take this so personally.

The whole "boring" and "2 dimensional" thing, is a matter of opinion, but again, it really sounds like you haven't picked up an issue of Superman in a very long time. Clearly there is something to him, because most writers (Geoff Johns included) say Superman is amongst their favorite character to write for.

Regardless, we've now degraded to the point where you aren't even arguing the "Power" issue anymore, now you're only attacking Superman's character...which is kind of weak.

the only reason im not arguing the "power" issue in my last comment is because i am responding to your last comment which had nothing to do with the "power" issue.

i dont understand if my wording isnt clear enough or if your just pulling stuff out of the air, but i never said that superman was ever a fugitive. also seeing as how we are taking directly to each other sport it's personal enough for me. i dont care what Geoff Johns thinks about superman i just dont like him. by your responses i am under the impression that you dont really read my comments but rather quickly skim through them then attack me. so go play this futile game with someone else conversation over.

Firstly, I never wanted to leave the "Powers" argument, seeing as that is the point of the post. You were the one to first address the merits of what makes a "Superhero", so please, don't try to place blame on me for the way this turned out.
For the fugitive argument, the point I was trying to make was that he was, in fact, a fugitive from the government in recent times. It was in counter to your "law-abiding-makes-a-tool-for-the-government" argument that didn't really make sense to begin with. As for accusing me of skimming your posts, unlike you, I did take the time to read your post. Let me quote my last post for effect on your "I really don't like him" arguement. Ahem:

The whole "boring" and "2 dimensional" thing, is a matter of opinion

I never said you had no right not to like Superman. A lot of people don't like him. I just pointed out that using it as an argument against him isn't really an argument. Also, where in my post did I "attack" you? The only thing that is even mildly directed at you, as a person, is where I say it doesn't sound like you've read a Superman comic. Other then that, everything I say, is directly related to the argument at hand. Now, who has their "panties in a wad"?

Oh, and don't try to sound all authoritative with your little "Conversation over" remark. That's obnoxious. If you want to bow out, do it gracefully. At least then it wouldn't feel like such a cop out. Was it done to allow yourself some kind of victory in your mind? You've gone out of your way to make an argument over superheroes personal, which feels kind of childish. But C'est la vie. Have a nice day!

 

[comadorcrack]

Dr Manhattan.
Superman Is only poweful under a yellow sun. Dr Manhattan is powerful everywhere and anywhere

 

[dwightsteel]

there is no limit to the hulks power the madder he get the stronger he gets, and in world war hulk he kicked everyone's ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._DC#Primary_Matches

No ... he hasn't!

And that was facing off against the weaker modern-era supes rather than the over-powered Silver Age Superman.

there is no limit to the hulks power. go to marvel character profiles if you dont believe me.

There is no limit to his power depending on how mad he gets. His power is conditional, which in my mind counts against him. If Superman were in the mood to kill, Supes could drop Hulk on Mars and let him die.

the hulk can survive in the vacuum of outer space. anyway you cant kill anger incarnate and superman's a boyscout and would never do that. also i dont even know if i would consider superman a hero or just a weapon for the government.

A weapon of the government? Have you even read DC continuity outside of Frank Miller's DKR? He's never been a government pawn, most especially when Lex Luthor was the President.

And the Hulk is not anger incarnate. He has to keep getting more and more angry. His power is conditional. As was pointed out, given the chance, Superman could more then likely calm him down. Besides, it's not like Superman hasn't beat the Hulk before.

EDIT: and as if the Hulk is more of a Superhero then Superman. He fucking leveled Manhatten in World War Hulk. He was all about vengence. You claim Superman isn't a hero but the Hulk is? That's a very weak argument.

i never said the hulk was more of a superhero than superman so don't get your fanboy panties in a wad. i just said that superman's a boyscout and im not just talking about in frank millers dkr i mean in general. he wont work outside of the law to do whats necessary like batman or other superheroes would, and since the government makes the law who then does he work for? there was a time when superman was a badass, but his character has been so watered down hes boring and seems two dimensional now. also getting back to the hulk i would say that superman IS more of a superhero than he is even though that doesn't make me like superman anymore than i do now. the hulk started as a villain and i think now treads the line between hero and villain and that's what makes him interesting.

oh and when i said he was anger incarnate i was using that title poetically not literally. who is literally anger incarnate? no one.

...So yeah, you've pretty much not picked up a Superman comic ever, from what it sounds like. It's not like Superman was ever a fugitive (Superman/Batman: Public Enemies), or that he lives his life completely outside of the law (He flies around the world, interacting with different countries with no diplomatic ties to pretty much any of them, not to mention the very fact that he fights crime, which makes him technically a vigilante). Your argument is that he's working for the government because he tries to abide by the law? That's like saying that by trying to abide by the law, that you, in fact are a tool of the government, and I'm sure that Superman probably breaks more domestic and international laws everyday then you do. Although I do like, that when your argument is backed into a corner, you think my "panties are in a wad". I hate to tell you this sport, but thoroughness doesn't indicate that my blood pressure has spiked. So calm down, and don't take this so personally.

The whole "boring" and "2 dimensional" thing, is a matter of opinion, but again, it really sounds like you haven't picked up an issue of Superman in a very long time. Clearly there is something to him, because most writers (Geoff Johns included) say Superman is amongst their favorite character to write for.

Regardless, we've now degraded to the point where you aren't even arguing the "Power" issue anymore, now you're only attacking Superman's character...which is kind of weak.

the only reason im not arguing the "power" issue in my last comment is because i am responding to your last comment which had nothing to do with the "power" issue.

i dont understand if my wording isnt clear enough or if your just pulling stuff out of the air, but i never said that superman was ever a fugitive. also seeing as how we are taking directly to each other sport it's personal enough for me. i dont care what Geoff Johns thinks about superman i just dont like him. by your responses i am under the impression that you dont really read my comments but rather quickly skim through them then attack me. so go play this futile game with someone else conversation over.

Firstly, I never wanted to leave the "Powers" argument, seeing as that is the point of the post. You were the one to first address the merits of what makes a "Superhero", so please, don't try to place blame on me for the way this turned out.
For the fugitive argument, the point I was trying to make was that he was, in fact, a fugitive from the government in recent times. It was in counter to your "law-abiding-makes-a-tool-for-the-government" argument that didn't really make sense to begin with. As for accusing me of skimming your posts, unlike you, I did take the time to read your post. Let me quote my last post for effect on your "I really don't like him" arguement. Ahem:

The whole "boring" and "2 dimensional" thing, is a matter of opinion

I never said you had no right not to like Superman. A lot of people don't like him. I just pointed out that using it as an argument against him isn't really an argument. Also, where in my post did I "attack" you? The only thing that is even mildly directed at you, as a person, is where I say it doesn't sound like you've read a Superman comic. Other then that, everything I say, is directly related to the argument at hand. Now, who has their "panties in a wad"?

Oh, and don't try to sound all authoritative with your little "Conversation over" remark. That's obnoxious. If you want to bow out, do it gracefully. At least then it wouldn't feel like such a cop out. Was it done to allow yourself some kind of victory in your mind? You've gone out of your way to make an argument over superheroes personal, which feels kind of childish. But C'est la vie. Have a nice day!

i should just let this go, but i have to say this. in the same paragraph you tell me you weren't skimming my posts, but then tell me i said two things that i NEVER said. i never tried in anyway to address the merits of what makes a superhero except for the two times i have told you that i never said that, and then i never said superman was ever a fugitive although i have told you twice now that i didn't say that.

the later part of you last post may have some truth to it. i think i have been overly defensive and obnoxious in this conversation. maybe its that so many people on the internet are assholes i have started being an asshole to defend myself against them (if that makes any sense). anyway if it has seemed this way i apologize.

...Ok, I never claimed you said Superman was a fugitive. I was telling you that he was when you claimed, and I'm quoting here,

he wont work outside of the law to do whats necessary like batman or other superheroes would, and since the government makes the law who then does he work for?"

Now, frankly, as I've said before, this point was asinine (as most superheroes are law abiding, as most people are law abiding), but I humored it anyway by informing you (and citing in the same response) that Superman has been made a fugitive by, and was completely on the outs with the government at one point. I SAID it. I know I said it. And I'm sorry, but I'm not sure that you completely read my posts, because I never, EVER claimed that you said or implied that point.

And to start the whole "Merits of Superheroism" point, you did, in fact, say this:

also i dont even know if i would consider superman a hero or just a weapon for the government

Which aside from being a very DKR take on the character, elicited my response about what merits a hero, and how that point, again, was completely asinine, since you said yourself that you consider Superman more of a hero then the Hulk, in a later post.

I'm sorry, I know this sounds douchey, but I'm just trying to clear up any and all misconceptions. Please read this post in it's entirety, and re-read it you happen to feel that I'm attacking you again, because I'm not. Every single thing that I've said, up until this paragraph is in RESPONSE to you. I've never tried to claim that you said something you didn't.

Hopefully now, we can put this behind us without bad blood. This has gotten far more out of hand than it's needed to.

 

[ragamuffingirl]

You guys are silly.

there is no limit to the hulks power the madder he get the stronger he gets, and in world war hulk he kicked everyone's ass.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_vs._DC#Primary_Matches

No ... he hasn't!

And that was facing off against the weaker modern-era supes rather than the over-powered Silver Age Superman.

there is no limit to the hulks power. go to marvel character profiles if you dont believe me.

There is no limit to his power depending on how mad he gets. His power is conditional, which in my mind counts against him. If Superman were in the mood to kill, Supes could drop Hulk on Mars and let him die.

the hulk can survive in the vacuum of outer space. anyway you cant kill anger incarnate and superman's a boyscout and would never do that. also i dont even know if i would consider superman a hero or just a weapon for the government.

A weapon of the government? Have you even read DC continuity outside of Frank Miller's DKR? He's never been a government pawn, most especially when Lex Luthor was the President.

And the Hulk is not anger incarnate. He has to keep getting more and more angry. His power is conditional. As was pointed out, given the chance, Superman could more then likely calm him down. Besides, it's not like Superman hasn't beat the Hulk before.

EDIT: and as if the Hulk is more of a Superhero then Superman. He fucking leveled Manhatten in World War Hulk. He was all about vengence. You claim Superman isn't a hero but the Hulk is? That's a very weak argument.

i never said the hulk was more of a superhero than superman so don't get your fanboy panties in a wad. i just said that superman's a boyscout and im not just talking about in frank millers dkr i mean in general. he wont work outside of the law to do whats necessary like batman or other superheroes would, and since the government makes the law who then does he work for? there was a time when superman was a badass, but his character has been so watered down hes boring and seems two dimensional now. also getting back to the hulk i would say that superman IS more of a superhero than he is even though that doesn't make me like superman anymore than i do now. the hulk started as a villain and i think now treads the line between hero and villain and that's what makes him interesting.

oh and when i said he was anger incarnate i was using that title poetically not literally. who is literally anger incarnate? no one.

...So yeah, you've pretty much not picked up a Superman comic ever, from what it sounds like. It's not like Superman was ever a fugitive (Superman/Batman: Public Enemies), or that he lives his life completely outside of the law (He flies around the world, interacting with different countries with no diplomatic ties to pretty much any of them, not to mention the very fact that he fights crime, which makes him technically a vigilante). Your argument is that he's working for the government because he tries to abide by the law? That's like saying that by trying to abide by the law, that you, in fact are a tool of the government, and I'm sure that Superman probably breaks more domestic and international laws everyday then you do. Although I do like, that when your argument is backed into a corner, you think my "panties are in a wad". I hate to tell you this sport, but thoroughness doesn't indicate that my blood pressure has spiked. So calm down, and don't take this so personally.

The whole "boring" and "2 dimensional" thing, is a matter of opinion, but again, it really sounds like you haven't picked up an issue of Superman in a very long time. Clearly there is something to him, because most writers (Geoff Johns included) say Superman is amongst their favorite character to write for.

Regardless, we've now degraded to the point where you aren't even arguing the "Power" issue anymore, now you're only attacking Superman's character...which is kind of weak.

the only reason im not arguing the "power" issue in my last comment is because i am responding to your last comment which had nothing to do with the "power" issue.

i dont understand if my wording isnt clear enough or if your just pulling stuff out of the air, but i never said that superman was ever a fugitive. also seeing as how we are taking directly to each other sport it's personal enough for me. i dont care what Geoff Johns thinks about superman i just dont like him. by your responses i am under the impression that you dont really read my comments but rather quickly skim through them then attack me. so go play this futile game with someone else conversation over.

Firstly, I never wanted to leave the "Powers" argument, seeing as that is the point of the post. You were the one to first address the merits of what makes a "Superhero", so please, don't try to place blame on me for the way this turned out.
For the fugitive argument, the point I was trying to make was that he was, in fact, a fugitive from the government in recent times. It was in counter to your "law-abiding-makes-a-tool-for-the-government" argument that didn't really make sense to begin with. As for accusing me of skimming your posts, unlike you, I did take the time to read your post. Let me quote my last post for effect on your "I really don't like him" arguement. Ahem:

The whole "boring" and "2 dimensional" thing, is a matter of opinion

I never said you had no right not to like Superman. A lot of people don't like him. I just pointed out that using it as an argument against him isn't really an argument. Also, where in my post did I "attack" you? The only thing that is even mildly directed at you, as a person, is where I say it doesn't sound like you've read a Superman comic. Other then that, everything I say, is directly related to the argument at hand. Now, who has their "panties in a wad"?

Oh, and don't try to sound all authoritative with your little "Conversation over" remark. That's obnoxious. If you want to bow out, do it gracefully. At least then it wouldn't feel like such a cop out. Was it done to allow yourself some kind of victory in your mind? You've gone out of your way to make an argument over superheroes personal, which feels kind of childish. But C'est la vie. Have a nice day!

i should just let this go, but i have to say this. in the same paragraph you tell me you weren't skimming my posts, but then tell me i said two things that i NEVER said. i never tried in anyway to address the merits of what makes a superhero except for the two times i have told you that i never said that, and then i never said superman was ever a fugitive although i have told you twice now that i didn't say that.

the later part of you last post may have some truth to it. i think i have been overly defensive and obnoxious in this conversation. maybe its that so many people on the internet are assholes i have started being an asshole to defend myself against them (if that makes any sense). anyway if it has seemed this way i apologize.

...Ok, I never claimed you said Superman was a fugitive. I was telling you that he was when you claimed, and I'm quoting here,

he wont work outside of the law to do whats necessary like batman or other superheroes would, and since the government makes the law who then does he work for?"

Now, frankly, as I've said before, this point was asinine (as most superheroes are law abiding, as most people are law abiding), but I humored it anyway by informing you (and citing in the same response) that Superman has been made a fugitive by, and was completely on the outs with the government at one point. I SAID it. I know I said it. And I'm sorry, but I'm not sure that you completely read my posts, because I never, EVER claimed that you said or implied that point.

And to start the whole "Merits of Superheroism" point, you did, in fact, say this:

also i dont even know if i would consider superman a hero or just a weapon for the government

Which aside from being a very DKR take on the character, elicited my response about what merits a hero, and how that point, again, was completely asinine, since you said yourself that you consider Superman more of a hero then the Hulk, in a later post.

I'm sorry, I know this sounds douchey, but I'm just trying to clear up any and all misconceptions. Please read this post in it's entirety, and re-read it you happen to feel that I'm attacking you again, because I'm not. Every single thing that I've said, up until this paragraph is in RESPONSE to you. I've never tried to claim that you said something you didn't.

Hopefully now, we can put this behind us without bad blood. This has gotten far more out of hand than it's needed to.

 

[The Blue Mongoose]

Sorry if it's been said but Scarlett Witch. She can alter reality with her mind... Seriously.

 

[Apathetic_cynicism]

Rick Astley.
His horrible repeating song subdues many a foe...and friendly alike.
He is an invincible killing machine and has taken the lives of many unsuspecting Youtube users.

 

[dwightsteel]

You guys are silly.

Yes...yes we are.

 

[rossatdi]

As several people have mention, Jon Osterman aka Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen. Superman couldn't really do anything to him he couldn't repair from, but Dr. Manhattan could wave a hand and unravel superman to molecules, or failing that, synthesize kryptonite all around and inside him.

Been thinking about this and actually. No. There are a multitude of super-villain who have matter warping abilities and they never seem to be uniquely effective. One could easily bullshit something along the lines of tactical kenesis providing some form of protection. Superman does fight gods on a relatively regular basis after all!

Dr M also never faces anyone who isn't human. Yes he just dematerialises people, but then if Superman really wanted to he could kill with a glare.

The massive psychological issues Dr M has plus the fact he doesn't really perceive time in a linear form anymore are all factors that are going to level the playing field.

With the matter creation, Dr M must be limited in not only his understanding but his ability as he is shown still studying and constructing things. Captain Atom and Green Lantern have tried the generating kryptonite route but it never works.

 

[JesterRaiin]

Swamp Thing when he (it ?) became a living planet god.

 

[rossatdi]

Swamp Thing when he (it ?) became a living planet god.

Good one but we've all come to the conclusion that destroying a planet (Goku) is easier than moving a planet (Superman) so planet god though he may be, Superman could just push him into the sun (which would be totally awesome *guitar solo*).