Who should use virus scan program?

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ILPPendant

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Abi79 said:
I use Kaspersky Internet Security and it works like a charm. If you want to try the trial, go here: http://www.kaspersky.com/trials
This! This! This!

Kaspersky, Zone Alarm and NOD32 are all superb security suites and will pretty much do an equal job. Norton appears to be universally regarded as a piece of shit and I haven't heard anything good about McAfee. If your computer is lightweight you might want to get NOD32 simply because it has the lowest footprint but otherwise there's no real advantage to one over the other save for different interfaces. I prefer Kaspersky but that's just my personal taste.

Sadly there's really no way around the fact that ultimately you'll spend money on a security suite of some description if you want peace of mind. It's rarely expensive, usually costing $50 per year or thereabouts (and most companies give you a discount if you buy several years at a time) - the price of a game or two. People might hate Vista or use nothing but Linux but no one who knows about computers will ever disagree that you can't be too careful.

It's also worth remembering that even if you are careful about this, as long as your computer shares a network with someone who isn't then you're vulnerable. I've recently discovered my sister is using Limewire. I told her she was a security risk, she said she didn't care. Guess what happened to the ports Limewire typically uses when I logged into the router half an hour later?
 

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olicon said:
For you search bar police out there, yes, I did search the topic. But there isn't anything that covers this particular topic, and I don't want to start a new idea on the 3rd page of a 10 weeks old topic.

So I have tried McAfee, I have tried Norton, I have tried a few free programs, all of them never catch a single real threat.. except that one time when McAfee found something after my computer had been freezing up every couple of minutes, and I pin pointed the virus, then search the folder in hope that McAfee will be able to get rid of it. Of course, McAfee said it couldn't. (I ended up killing the file from the registry)

Now, I have to say I have been surfing ever since the net was a much safer place, so I had a lot of time to learn to navigate the cyber space relatively safely. I also don't access pr0n site (OMG, a guy that doesn't do internet pr0n!?).. for fear that I would pick up some digital STDs.. So you can say that I play it very safe online.

Then I got a free trial with McAfee, installed it, and has been regretting the decision ever since. The program periodically slows down my laptop to a crawl, as well as add a dozen or so second to my start up time.
Should I just go ahead and get rid of it? I never even caught a spyware in the past 3 years (Firefox helps a lot). And the trial is running out in a month, and I have no intention to get the full version anyway.

And just who do you think needs these kind of programs? In my opinion, it seems like a 15 minutes crash cross on safe browsing is as good as a $100 program that can't get rid of viruses it finds anyway.
Get ubuntu. Ubuntu solves everything. And you can't get viruses.
 

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Everyone should be using protection. And the worst things get, the more protection people need which is why it's slowing our lives down so much. There was a time when all you had to do was a check-up once a week but now you need total protection all the time. So sad...

Personally I use Norton 360 or McAfee TP on my computers. I know they're both extreme resource hogs, but they're also both really good at thier jobs. Better safe than sorry.
 

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I use Norton, but the best one I know of is Sophos. That one is actually used by ICT specialists and various companies.

olicon said:
I never even caught a spyware in the past 3 years (Firefox helps a lot).
If I'm right, Firefox doesn't have the right compatibility for most viruses, as they are mainly designed for IE because that's the most commonly used one.

And just who do you think needs these kind of programs? In my opinion, it seems like a 15 minutes crash cross on safe browsing is as good as a $100 program that can't get rid of viruses it finds anyway.
It depends because nowadays there are more risks than just viruses over the internet. Whilst actual virus scanning may not be that good, they also consist of identity protection, backup etc. so they can be useful in other ways if not for virus protection.
 

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demoman_chaos said:
Viruses are the main reason I switched to Linux (to the 3 people who care: I use the Sidux distro). Linux is a fee OS that is 100% virus proof. It runs good on old PC's, does most everything you need, and looks good while doing it.
Only downsides is no tech support outside forums, Windows games don't really work too well, and it requires a bit more user-involvement.
While I'll agree with you that linux is less likely to get viruses than a windows PC, it is not because it has some magic software that makes it immune to viruses, nothing is. The only reason it appears to not get any viruses is because there aint any written for it, same thing with MACs, most people use windows, so that's what all the virus programmers write them for. To think your OS is immune to viruses because it is X os is extremely tunnel vision-ed, if you're not stupid and use a decent anti-virus then yeah you'll have less viruses.
 

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I wouldn't assume I was safe from most viruses, even if I made a habit of avoiding shady websites and downloads. It just doesn't seem wise to put all my eggs in one basket when it comes to a piece of machinery I've paid thousands of dollars for. Better safe than sorry, right?

For the record, I use Avast! Home Edition. Hasn't failed me yet.
 

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Abi79 said:
I use Kaspersky Internet Security and it works like a charm. If you want to try the trial, go here: http://www.kaspersky.com/trials
I can only sign this. I use Kaspersky Internet Security, and I have never had any trouble with it. Works great.
 

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A few weeks ago I switched from AVG free to Avriva to speed up my boot times. Avira has turned up about 3 detections and that was when I was running a scan with malware bytes. I use Av protection mainly to stop Windows bitching at me and as a "just in case", which is why i switched to the much lighter Avira.
To really clean up my computer I use a combination of Malware bytes and Spybot Search and Destroy. Both free programms but wipe the floor with any paid for anti-virus program.
 

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Everyone needs some sort of virus protection, because it doesn't matter which OS you're running none of them are completely immune, not even the Linux OS's such as Ubuntu. I will say though that with Ubuntu as long as you keep it up to date you shouldn't have any trouble because its own virus protection is pretty good, I've been using it for a couple of years now and have only had one incident.

For windows, just use a combination of AVG and Adaware (made by Lavasoft), both come in free editions which are very effective. Avoid Norton because it integrates its-self into windows and will cripple the machines performance, especially on older comps.
 

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Zeeky_Santos said:
you tried buying AVG pro 8? It works like a charm on my computer, no probs with games and it detects and deals with loads of viruses.
The best free Anti-Virus out there and just as good as any other paid software.

AVG all the way.
 

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Everyone needs a good firewall and anti-virus program.

Personally I use the F-secure Client Security. Sure, it costs a little (free for me via our university), but it's great. 2 minute install, no additional configuration needed for basic surfing and online gaming. Highly customizable for those who know what they do, includes both A-V and firewall and uses automatic internet updates (which are daily) to keep the databases up to speed. I've yet to have any virus sneak in when I had the program up and running properly. And it's been like that for over 5 years. Zero problems. For five years.

Only one minus: No registry protection beyond the basics. AdAware's AdWatch does that better. But the combination of the two rocks
 

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Mmm.. maybe Ubuntu is the key. I'm not too worried about tech support because I personally know at least 3 or 4 tech engineers (one of them actually works for Ubuntu). I've always wanted to try dual boot. But I'm too scared to partition my drive because it comes with the quick format option (its backup copy of Windows is stored on the HD). I'm afraid that if I repartition the drive, I might lose my copy of XP (which I need for word processing and compatibility with others). Has anyone ever have an experience with this?
 

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elvor0 said:
While I'll agree with you that linux is less likely to get viruses than a windows PC, it is not because it has some magic software that makes it immune to viruses, nothing is. The only reason it appears to not get any viruses is because there aint any written for it, same thing with MACs, most people use windows, so that's what all the virus programmers write them for. To think your OS is immune to viruses because it is X os is extremely tunnel vision-ed, if you're not stupid and use a decent anti-virus then yeah you'll have less viruses.
That and how it is structured.
In a 3-day contest between OS's to see which one was hardest to hack (long time ago, probably about a year), all lastest hte first day. Mac was the first to break on the second day with Windows being cracked later on day 2. For the last day, it was a no-holds-barred assault on the Ubuntu machine from everyone but the 2 groups that hacked the Mac and WIndows PC's. Despite the onslaught, Ubuntu was never cracked.
I don't remember where I saw this, I'll try to find it for you.
 

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I go with Avast! for virus scanning and Malwarebytes for my adware sweep. I don't get viruses in Vista as often as I did when I was using my old old XP machine. Either Microsoft did something right, or I'm totally fucked. Though I don't surf on unfamiliar sites too often.

demoman_chaos said:
I don't remember where I saw this, I'll try to find it for you.
That was featured on Hackaday, wasn't it? Right after the macbook air was released? It was probably at Defcon.
 

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I use AVG Free, and Ad-Aware on my systems. 95% of the virus problems I would've encountered have been thwarted by my router... I didn't value it until I stopped using it (it causes my internet to run like shit sometimes, so I stopped)... It took 2 weeks without a router, even with Anti-Virus software running, using only firefox with NoScript on both systems, to get a terminal virus infection on my main computer. Prior to turning off the router, it was a year and a half since my last terminal system crash...

So as long as you have a router, that should cut 95% of the garbage.
 

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Don't get virus programs. They are just programs made to suck away your money.
Instead, be smart, don't download anything suspicious, backup your HD weekly, and reformat your HD monthly.
With this, you will get no more problems. Well, unless you bash your motherboard or something.
 

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ChocoCake said:
Don't get virus programs. They are just programs made to suck away your money.
Instead, be smart, don't download anything suspicious, backup your HD weekly, and reformat your HD monthly.
With this, you will get no more problems. Well, unless you bash your motherboard or something.
suck money? I wish I could suck money, but I'd catch hepatitis.