Who the hell decided that this was art?!
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It wasn't the piece that provided the response: it was the fact that he had the gall to call it art.Mertruve said:
This post right here? This one I'm writing now?CIA said:
It is totally art.
Do you see the problem in your statement?
Art's in the eye of the beholder... or some other metaphor people like to use to handwave bad artists away from them.
Thanks for the link, nice to hear someone in the art world who isn't elitist.Skyllian Blitz said:
I ask myself exactly the same question when it comes to Tracy Emmin (May be spelled wrong, but fuck if I care about how her name is spelled)
Who managed to sell a piss and shit covered bed for 60 million.
And then went on to sell a park bench for 20 million.
It puts artists to shame when there are some in the world who put genuine thought and passion into their works but are then overlooked in favour of people who can bullshit idiots into thinking something without any actual meaning what-so-ever is worth a huge sum of cash.
it makes me sick.
Who managed to sell a piss and shit covered bed for 60 million.
And then went on to sell a park bench for 20 million.
It puts artists to shame when there are some in the world who put genuine thought and passion into their works but are then overlooked in favour of people who can bullshit idiots into thinking something without any actual meaning what-so-ever is worth a huge sum of cash.
it makes me sick.
I define art as any creative expression including-but not limited-sound(music), physical movement (dance) imagery (paintings, sculptures, drawings, etc.) and writing (novels, essays, short stories, etc.)
But yeah, more often that not people put out something that's either crap, or something made with the purpose of being offensive, and when called out on it-they go back and call it art, so now they're not being lazy or insensitive, they're being artistic. It's sad really.
But yeah, more often that not people put out something that's either crap, or something made with the purpose of being offensive, and when called out on it-they go back and call it art, so now they're not being lazy or insensitive, they're being artistic. It's sad really.
So you pay to enter this Tunnel-o-Rape? I can't believe that this really exists. From the comments on that article, it doesn't seem to be real. But even as a joke, that's a bit tasteless.lewism247 said:
Art is something that takes talent and technical skill to produce. A beautiful painting, a terrifying painting, a sorrowful painting, or a detailed sculpture are all examples of art. If the talent and skill taken to make something that is in some way striking is apparent, then I might call it art.
Trash is not art, and art is not trash. A urinal is not art. A shovel on a pedistal is not art. A dumbass chaining a dog to a wall to starve and die is not art (although chaining this dumbass to a wall and letting people watch HIM starve would be satisfying). A moron preserving a cow carcass in formaldehyde is not art. An idiot swimming in a pool of urine, lashing himself with a cat of nine tails and screaming "ironic" epithets is not art. An imbecil dropping a horse carcass from a helicopter is not art.
Some of us don't want and don't care for this crap, which obviously took no talent and minimal technical skill to produce. It is worth NOTHING, least of all the label of art.
Trash is not art, and art is not trash. A urinal is not art. A shovel on a pedistal is not art. A dumbass chaining a dog to a wall to starve and die is not art (although chaining this dumbass to a wall and letting people watch HIM starve would be satisfying). A moron preserving a cow carcass in formaldehyde is not art. An idiot swimming in a pool of urine, lashing himself with a cat of nine tails and screaming "ironic" epithets is not art. An imbecil dropping a horse carcass from a helicopter is not art.
Some of us don't want and don't care for this crap, which obviously took no talent and minimal technical skill to produce. It is worth NOTHING, least of all the label of art.
True story:
I was in the Tate modern, looking at a couple of odd exhibits in a large room, including a hospital bed that had been chopped up, put in a wardrobe, then filled with cement, and an odd uncomfortable looking pink plastic chair that played a bleepy version of "Love me Tender" whenever it detected anyone approaching.
While I was in this room, I overheard a couple discussing something they were looking at. The bloke was spouting off about how this installation represented man's subconcious yearning for freedom & death,whilst he is still confined within mortality, but cowardice prevented him from leaving until there was no choice. Also, structurally speaking, there was no way of telling what was beyond until it was too late, the one-sided nature of the installation meant that it was certainly about death & discovery. (or somesuch bollocks)
They were looking at the fire exit door.
I was in the Tate modern, looking at a couple of odd exhibits in a large room, including a hospital bed that had been chopped up, put in a wardrobe, then filled with cement, and an odd uncomfortable looking pink plastic chair that played a bleepy version of "Love me Tender" whenever it detected anyone approaching.
While I was in this room, I overheard a couple discussing something they were looking at. The bloke was spouting off about how this installation represented man's subconcious yearning for freedom & death,whilst he is still confined within mortality, but cowardice prevented him from leaving until there was no choice. Also, structurally speaking, there was no way of telling what was beyond until it was too late, the one-sided nature of the installation meant that it was certainly about death & discovery. (or somesuch bollocks)
They were looking at the fire exit door.
i think the older stuff, where people painted people or actual scenes. stuff like DaVinci and Rembrandt is actually art.
So, if I take a big lumpy poop in one hand and call it "The Dump" and then take a nice and corny one in the other and call it "The Corn Fields of Iowa" and say that "The Corn Fields of Iowa" is along the same vain as "The Dump" that it suddenly becomes O.K. because it violates the sense of reverence society gives works of art?Erana said:
Does it become art because I say "Think about how the smell touches you, how it changes your perception of its placement"?
No. It's still a corn filled piece of poop sitting in my hand just like "The Shovel" is a shovel on a pedestal.
Concept means nothing when the execution is poor. Concept albums don't suddenly become good albums because just because they are what they are. Good art has to have a quality of art to it that is good just like anything else.
Manos: The Hands of Fate is a bad movie no matter how someone looks at it.
Of course, a 'postmodernist' would argue that Manos symbolizes both the hope that we have and the hope that is lost in all of us.
This is what basically opened the door to anything being art.
Fountain (Duchamp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_%28Duchamp%29
Yes, it is just a urinal. That is all. With some minor graffiti on it. Yah for modern art.
Fountain (Duchamp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fountain_%28Duchamp%29
Yes, it is just a urinal. That is all. With some minor graffiti on it. Yah for modern art.
Sorry to break it to you but that is your opinion. Art, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. So stop being closed minded and live and let live.Captain Picard said: