Who's tired of hearing the term WoW Killer tossed around?
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What the companies should be aiming at is just to make an enjoyable MMO, if they can get ONE PER CENT of WOW's success, at $15 a month, that's still over 100,000 subscribers sending them $1.5 million a month, so I'd say after expenses, that's not a failure, even if they can't take the number one spot.
HELL, please endure with my thoughts, but putting yourselve at the same level as the competition, which in fact is one of the greatests MMORPG´s of all times doesnt it make you lose by default?? i mean, IF I am going to release a game, the very last thing i would do was to try and make everyone COMPARE me with the frikken GIANT, less that Giant gets pissed and finishes me off
lets say they didn´t even MENTIONED WOW, they just put a slogan "A Realisticaly-beautifull MMORPG with several classes to chose from and innumerable quests you need to overcome"
that woud pull much more people than "YEAH!! WE ARE THE SAME AS WOW, WE ARE COMPETING AGAINST HIM, AND WE CAME TO SHOT WOW DOWN"
putting yourselve at the same lvl as the competition calls for comparicion and ALLWAYS the fans will like more the original
or at least thats what i think
...ALSO, i never really heard AION state it was going to kill WOW... did i miss something?? (i know, out of topic, but i heard that in the last AION: WOW KILLER thread and was thinking "really??")
lets say they didn´t even MENTIONED WOW, they just put a slogan "A Realisticaly-beautifull MMORPG with several classes to chose from and innumerable quests you need to overcome"
that woud pull much more people than "YEAH!! WE ARE THE SAME AS WOW, WE ARE COMPETING AGAINST HIM, AND WE CAME TO SHOT WOW DOWN"
putting yourselve at the same lvl as the competition calls for comparicion and ALLWAYS the fans will like more the original
or at least thats what i think
...ALSO, i never really heard AION state it was going to kill WOW... did i miss something?? (i know, out of topic, but i heard that in the last AION: WOW KILLER thread and was thinking "really??")
Warhammer Online is the biggest cuplrit of this when they claimed that PVP xp gain would be the addition to their game that would trump WoW once and for all.Jark said:
Sorry, that's what I mean by the developers and fans attaching the title to games. The recent Aion thread jumped onto the "WoW Killer" band wagon, and I was honestly shocked at the positive response it recieved. I understand that a game this is yet-to-be-released, people can be exctied, but aren't you just letting your expectations get too high?HentMas said:
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
To be honest I hate MMORPGs, because I'm the kind of person who enjoys playing without having people around. To me, the title "WoW Killer" being given out just means there's another one out there.
I was rather annoyed when "The Old Republic" was announced as an MMORPG. I'd been hoping for KOTOR III, but after reading further into it I must say I'm very impressed, and my early negativity towards it has subsided considerably. I still don't like the thought of it being an MMORPG, but I'm sure I can give it a go and enjoy it - we'll just have to see how it fares in the end.
Won't "kill" WoW (only the Blizzard devs could do that, and that isn't going to happen), but if it works like BioWare says then it'll give it a good run for its money.
I was rather annoyed when "The Old Republic" was announced as an MMORPG. I'd been hoping for KOTOR III, but after reading further into it I must say I'm very impressed, and my early negativity towards it has subsided considerably. I still don't like the thought of it being an MMORPG, but I'm sure I can give it a go and enjoy it - we'll just have to see how it fares in the end.
Won't "kill" WoW (only the Blizzard devs could do that, and that isn't going to happen), but if it works like BioWare says then it'll give it a good run for its money.
Ah right, wasn't aware WAR Dev team had said something stupid like that, cheers.KhaineII said:
Was gonna say though, it's nice to see some new MMO's coming out not claiming to be a "Badass wow killer" and that they're going to take the No1 MMO spot and that they're just focusing on being GOOD. Remember that? games that went out of their way to be GOOD and original, and not to just compete with the biggest titles out there.
It's like say, if a new FPS was going to be released and saying "Yeah we're gonna beat CoD: Modern Warfare" whilst being a shallowly designed piece of tripe.
Who's sick of people being sick of hearing WoW killer being thrown around as a term....
I'm sick of a lot of shit but i dont complain all over the inter-webs about it.
I'm sick of a lot of shit but i dont complain all over the inter-webs about it.
All I will say is, The Old Republic better have it's shit in order when it launches. Would hate to see it go the way of LOTRO, WAR, Conan, Archlord and the SWG update.
I don't get why games have to compromise, trying to "meet WoW halfway", when in fact, they just feel like knock-off's.
Take a look at some solid MMO's atm, DDO, GW, EVE. Sure, DDO has just had a massive update, but it's not in the least like Warcraft. All of those games haven't touched WoW, and all have a solid fanbase who support them and have built a decent community. Sure, they don't have 12 million, but at least they know they won't attain that so don't aim to "steal all the WoW players".
I don't get why games have to compromise, trying to "meet WoW halfway", when in fact, they just feel like knock-off's.
Take a look at some solid MMO's atm, DDO, GW, EVE. Sure, DDO has just had a massive update, but it's not in the least like Warcraft. All of those games haven't touched WoW, and all have a solid fanbase who support them and have built a decent community. Sure, they don't have 12 million, but at least they know they won't attain that so don't aim to "steal all the WoW players".
hehe, mah bad.KhaineII said:
i suppose i took it as a personal attack
[see my post] http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.135471?page=9
haha, i suppose i saw this and merely assumed it was because of my recent post-age of that.
since we seem to be strictly attacking my comment as useless and not connected with the discussion at hand i suppose i'll have to type some long arrogant paragraph on why i would have to say no.
This is a new age of gaming.
game developers are out there in large numbers.
i feel as though the term "wow killer" is more of a challenge than anything.
not that anyone wants wow dead.
merely that a company would take the money making machine that is Wow and strive to be better.
better then the best.
a base of improvement.
so say that you are sick of hearing of "wow killers" is to say in parallel that you are in a sense against the further development of the MMO rpg genre.
conversation based enough for you?
Umm is it really the developers who are throwing this term around because it seems to me that it is more the media that uses the term. It seems to me that the second you announce you are putting out an MMORPG the first thing the press asks is "will this be the WOW killer"? And lets be honest that puts the developers in an awkward position. The have to say yes it is regardless if they believe it really can or not. Otherwise they would have to say no and by saying no you might as well say "our game is a steaming pile".
That raises the question of wether the developers of The Old Repbublic should release an open/closed beta to test the game play before releasing, so they aren't plauged by bugs and server issues.Ghostkai said:
Those two things are what brings "WoW Killers" down out the door.
I am also confused by this phrase: there already is a "WoW Killer"; Runescape(105 million accounts). And yet, WoW is still alive and kicking.
Runescape is a "WoW killer" only by definition because it is what every MMO aims to be: really popular. So if there are already games that are equally or more popular than WoW, I would like to know why anyone bothers with the phrase at all.
Just my two cents.
Runescape is a "WoW killer" only by definition because it is what every MMO aims to be: really popular. So if there are already games that are equally or more popular than WoW, I would like to know why anyone bothers with the phrase at all.
Just my two cents.
While I do feel compitetion is good between two developers, I think it should be directed in a different fashion. They should focus on what makes their game unique and special, not which factors of their game are SO MUCH BETTER than the ones in WoW.brainless906 said:This is a new age of gaming.
game developers are out there in large numbers.
i feel as though the term "wow killer" is more of a challenge than anything.
not that anyone wants wow dead.
merely that a company would take the money making machine that is Wow and strive to be better.
better then the best.
a base of improvement.
so say that you are sick of hearing of "wow killers" is to say in parallel that you are in a sense against the further development of the MMO rpg genre.
conversation based enough for you?
Hahahaha.Nmil-ek said:
Less than 11, considering that a lot of people from China are yet to make new accounts.
Also, you are counting EU/US market only? Then yes, 400k preorders, but there are only 5 millions of people in WoW from EU/US. Because half of the people playing WoW are from China. And I'm not exaggerating, even one bit.
Well i agree.KhaineII said:While I do feel compitetion is good between two developers, I think it should be directed in a different fashion. They should focus on what makes their game unique and special, not which factors of their game are SO MUCH BETTER than the ones in WoW.brainless906 said:This is a new age of gaming.
game developers are out there in large numbers.
i feel as though the term "wow killer" is more of a challenge than anything.
not that anyone wants wow dead.
merely that a company would take the money making machine that is Wow and strive to be better.
better then the best.
a base of improvement.
so say that you are sick of hearing of "wow killers" is to say in parallel that you are in a sense against the further development of the MMO rpg genre.
conversation based enough for you?
kind of.
meh, i digress.
Simply because the public doesn't seem to give half of a flying fuck.
not to be harsh or anything, but there are many many many many mmo rpg's out there with epic amounts of unique, however they never surface, many of them getting little to no publicity.
however when somebody decides
"hay, this'll kill WoW
"suddenly people take interest.
be it negative or positive the game now has much more publicity then a game that is simply unique.
Take Aion, it has many unique features.
The ability to fly anywhere.
The god awesome graphics combined with low pc requirements.
yet aion wouldn't have half the publicity it has unless somebody decided to put it up against WoW .
As the largest MMO RPG out there, WoW is now considered the "standered" if you will.
the..ah...crown jewel all other preciouses gems are compared to.
While looking at the 2 compared games you (as the developer or the player) are always looking for something better.
i propose the term "wow killer" will never die.
at least until wow itself dies.
merely because it is a standered of comparison.