Eh, he's more than Kensai. Kensai can either be Adam Monroe (as he did some of the "legendary tasks of Kensai") or Hiro Nakamura.SHIFTYMACO said:I think you have everyone beat there!Realitycrash said:Kensai
I always prefer Hiro.
Eh, he's more than Kensai. Kensai can either be Adam Monroe (as he did some of the "legendary tasks of Kensai") or Hiro Nakamura.SHIFTYMACO said:I think you have everyone beat there!Realitycrash said:Kensai
orSckizoBoy said:While I agree, being the stereotypical *insert insult here* that I am, I prefer Kyuzo:
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Both were great in their own way. Kikuchiyo was a great character and indeed made the movie, while maybe not being much of a samurai, while for me Kyuzo is the stereotypical samurai. Stoic and capable.Sober Thal said:Kikuchiyo (Toshiro Mifune) from Kurosawa's 'Seven Samurai'.
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He made the movie, and is one of my favorite characters of all time. His over the top personality always makes me smile.
Toshiro Mifune was rather badass in Yojimbo too.
Saito is not tense. He's just about business. Kenshin is great, I'm a fan of him too, but if it really was gonna come down to those two fighting to the death, My money is on Saito, Because hes all business and not afraid to rig the game in his favor. Kenshin is reactionary, Saito always has a plan. Much like how he recruited Kenshin to battle in Kyoto in the first place.Deus mortuus est said:That's why I said could, not wouldDexterNorgam said:Deus mortuus est said:Kenshin, of course. The only one here who could beat Saito Hajime, mentioned above, and Satio is a real badass.
Its quite debatable if Kenshin really could have. At best they fought to a draw, and Saito still had a few tricks up his sleeve that I'm not sure Kenshin ever knew about, like the Zero Stance...
Swordsmanship aside, Saito never quibbled or nancy'd about with any hesitation to kill evil immediately. He's infinitely more bad ass than Kenshin.
If swordsmanship were the only metric I was using it would clearly have been Kenshin's teacher who could soundly whoop Kenshin.![]()
Once Kenshin learned Kuzu-ryūsen and Amakakeru Ryū no Hirameki to defeat Shishio I don't think that Satio could have defeated him.
Of the two I think that Kenshin is more badass, mostly because he chills out until he really needs to kick ass. Saito seems a bit too tense for my taste. And Kenshin's teacher is an alcoholic, which is not very cool.
well, Okita was a master swordsmen without a doubt, but Kondo Isami is the reason Okita became such a swordsmen, and Hijikata is the one who set the rules and regulations within the Shinsengumi, as well as being the creator of the forward stab that became a staple of the Tennen Rishin Ryu.SckizoBoy said:See, of the Shinsengumi, I'm inclined to go for Okita Souji, for the prodigious swordsmanship, tragic life cut short (by tuberculosis) and Mumyo-ken. Who else came up with and mastered a technique of cutting off both of an enemy's arms and his head in one strike Sandantsuki (IRL, that is, before I get hit with fictional examples).Hitokiri_Gensai said:in terms of real samurai, i take a lot of inspiration from the men of the Shinsengumi from the 1860's particularly Kondo Isami and Hijikata Toshizou.
Saitou really was an alcoholic, although he outlived all his contemporaries in the Shinsengumi, living to the age of 76. He actually died of a stomach ulcer, most likely brought on from alcohol.DexterNorgam said:Saito is not tense. He's just about business. Kenshin is great, I'm a fan of him too, but if it really was gonna come down to those two fighting to the death, My money is on Saito, Because hes all business and not afraid to rig the game in his favor. Kenshin is reactionary, Saito always has a plan. Much like how he recruited Kenshin to battle in Kyoto in the first place.Deus mortuus est said:That's why I said could, not wouldDexterNorgam said:Deus mortuus est said:Kenshin, of course. The only one here who could beat Saito Hajime, mentioned above, and Satio is a real badass.
Its quite debatable if Kenshin really could have. At best they fought to a draw, and Saito still had a few tricks up his sleeve that I'm not sure Kenshin ever knew about, like the Zero Stance...
Swordsmanship aside, Saito never quibbled or nancy'd about with any hesitation to kill evil immediately. He's infinitely more bad ass than Kenshin.
If swordsmanship were the only metric I was using it would clearly have been Kenshin's teacher who could soundly whoop Kenshin.![]()
Once Kenshin learned Kuzu-ryūsen and Amakakeru Ryū no Hirameki to defeat Shishio I don't think that Satio could have defeated him.
Of the two I think that Kenshin is more badass, mostly because he chills out until he really needs to kick ass. Saito seems a bit too tense for my taste. And Kenshin's teacher is an alcoholic, which is not very cool.
Lol, yes, being an alcoholic is uncool. That's why I only mentioned him on the merits of probably being the best swordsman in the show.
You're no samurai! You're a ninja!thegamermn said:I reject your anime, movies, and tv, and give you Miyamoto Musashi [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi]
I'd go for the Takashi Shimura character, but otherwise I agree with your sentiments. I always think part of the appeal of the samurai is the pathos of a character who is one moment a revered member of society and the next expected to die for his master, or in the case of ronin for whatever cause he is fighting for. There is a severity and sadness to Shimura's charcter in that film which I think captures that.Euryptus said:Gorōbei Katayama from Kurosawa's Seven Samurai.
Though any of the band qualify. If you haven't seen the film yet - do so.
That is all.
I'll agree with you because kenshin= awesome. but i like his historical inspiration.Deus mortuus est said:Kenshin, of course. The only one here who could beat Saito Hajime, mentioned above, and Satio is a real badass.
Except for the whole part where Musashi wasn't a samurai, and absolutely refused the notion of service to any lord as a vassal. Of course, we're apparently allowing characters like Himura Kenshin and Mugen to be considered samurai, so I've no place to complain.Saltyk said:No mention of Miyamoto Musashi? Considered to have been one of the greatest samurai that ever lived. A man who won his first duel at the age of 13. Who defeated an entire school single handedly. Who created his own style of dual wielding techniques. Who beat Sasaki Kojiro in a duel and then escaped his followers attacks using the receding tide to his advantage. A man said to have won over 100 duels.
Okay, so he's a real samurai, but how did we get this far without him being mentioned? He's been in games, movies, anime, and there's even an (incomplete) manga based on his life.
EDIT: Damn. Someone finally mentioned him while I was reading and then replying.
You're no samurai! You're a ninja!thegamermn said:I reject your anime, movies, and tv, and give you Miyamoto Musashi [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miyamoto_Musashi]