Why All the Hate on Naruto?

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chaosyoshimage

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Saltyk said:
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It's a popular Shonen anime with all the pros and cons that come with being that. Personally I like it but the anime is only good when they go all out on the animation. Too much pointless filler and dragged out scenes. To me, the manga is essentially Harry Potter with ninjas, which I consider a good thing.

BTW, I'm a big fan of the whole Naruto relates to the villain thing that always goes on with characters like Sasuke, Gaara, and Pain...
Okay, so this basically sums up my feelings about Naruto. But why does your avatar have to be Cell? The single villain/character I hated the most from pretty much any anime. And not in the way you are supposed to hate villains. I just flat hated his character.
And why does your avatar have to be Cloud? My single most hated character from pretty much any video game, Zack was way cooler. Also, Cell has a DS in this picture, it's awesome.
Touche, bag.

Because I couldn't find an avatar that I really liked when I originally selected it, and Cloud was the best choice I could come up with. And I suck at coming up with decent ideas for avatars and even if I could, I couldn't do the editing to make it work.

Though, I do like him. I also like Zack. I actually stopped playing at a certain point in Crisis Core as I slowly started to realize that he was gonna die, soon. And yes, the DS is awesome in that picture.
Lol, I was just messing with you, I'm mostly apathetic towards Cloud, don't hate him or love him. My opinion on him is that he has a cool sword and looks cute in a dress. You quit Crisis Core when you realized Zack was going to die? But, that's the best part! So sad...

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I like Naruto,
it has a good story,
good characters(for the most part)(Shikamaru is awesome)
great fights

The main problem is filler...but that's what filler guides are for...and the manga too.
At least it isn't(for the most part) integrated with the non-filler parts like DBZ was
...even then I like DBZ and Naruto regardless of filler...I just skip the filler.
 

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Other than being a very popular target, there are some legitimately wrong things with Naruto. The biggest complaint (to me) is that the supporting characters are by FAR more interesting than the main characters. The main characters are either stereotypes, become emo and useless for a good chunk of the show, or are stereotypes while the supporting characters have different, developed personalities and their powers creatively showcase the world of the story. And another problem that may have been hinted at in the last sentence was that the central story is pretty weak, and having filler in-between a weak story does not motivate many people to continue watching/reading the series, let alone still like it.

EDIT: Although completely unrelated, if you want to see a show that was ruined by filler, watch Bleach. The main story arc can be really good, but you have no real time to appreciate it when every 10 episodes another 30+ episodes of filler comes in to ruin it all.
 

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Maybe because people don't like it.

I like it, and it's okay that alot of people don't like it.

I still like it. I read the comics and am happy whilst reading them.
 

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Jumendez-sama said:
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I tried to watch this a while back but just couldn't go far. Main problem for me is that the main character Naruto is a obnoxious brat with little redeeming quality. Also making normally awesome ninjas (aka silent assassins) look like a loud screaming buffoons is not a good thing.
That's what I thought to but if your willing to give the show some time Naruto really grows on you and seeing him progress is so satisfying but that's only if your willing to give the show some time and some people just can't do that. I can see why investing 200+ hours into a shows is not an easy thing to do and I can see why people don't like it also I don't watch fillers at all and for the last thing I would like to refer to you to my good friend tv tropes http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HighlyVisibleNinja
If I'm wasting 200+ hours watching something with as intelligible a plot as some harem show (in that there is no plot and they just make things seem better than they are so that viewers will still watch) I expect blowjobs and pudding for every hour put into that show. (Yes, Yahtzee reference, but I feel as critical of this as he is on anything)
And if you read what I said, I said that i can see why people wouldn't want to do that I'm not suggesting that you should watch it but I'm only saying that if you give it the time you'll get attached to naruto, I never said go and watch the ENTIRE SERIES. Really that response was uncalled for -_- you just sound like your mindlessly bashing it. There's no point judging everything Yatzee's yes everything does need to be criticized to be improved but we should also be able to enjoy things for what they are.
 

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There are a ton of reasons why Naruto is bad. Chakara for instance makes no sense with what was explained at first I mean at this point in the show everyone's essentially a wizard because for the most part they just shoot beams at each other. Also how does chakara make you live forever?

If they are ninja why doesn't anybody ever sneak I mean they did at the start a little but its was quickly abandoned so that makes no sense. I get that its Naruto's thing to run straight in but everybody does it not just him.

The anime has increasingly low quality especially in the later seasons I remember watching a whole minute of the same three punch cycle of a character hell the jumping sequences don't make any sense and they take up a good chunk of half the episodes.

The characters motives are very poorly constructed. Sasuke wants to destroy the whole village because one guy requested his brother kill his clan effectively saving thousands of lives not to mention it was his brothers choice to go along with the plan and the clan really had a shallow reasoning for trying to take over and this is just one character there are many more too.

The worst thing of all is that everything gets solved by love.
 

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I personally dislike for the same reason I dislike Bleach and One Piece; It just drags on far to long. And while I do enjoy characters being given time to flesh out, I also want a damn conclusion to the story before my interest wanes.
 

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One problem, just one, and it's one that more of an Easter egg. The original, and I mean the first Naruto one shot ever shown in Jump, was about an actually nine tailed fox spirit with magical powers that went to the human world to find a friend. NOTHING TO DO WITH NINJAS. Want to know why Ninja's are even a part of it, because in the original character design, and in the first episode, Naruto is wearing goggles. The Artist found them to hard to draw so he replaced them with a headband. That's right the entire question of why these Ninjas run around like Demi-gods in colorful outfits is because they were meant to be these spirits that ran around like Demi-god in colorful outfits.

Honestly Naruto would make more sense, and might even be a better concept overall, if you simply accept the fact that they're actually demons and mages. Imagine Fairy Tail if it had an interesting plot loosely based off a myriad of Japaneses, and Chinese mythology. Movie Bob may have his games, he may have his movie but let me tell you, Manga is Weird!

Edit: Oh and as for the story of the actually manga, I'll get into the Anime later trust me, it's surprisingly really good for the first two arcs. The reference the village of mist arc, as one of my favorite Anime arcs ever written. It explains how the whole ninja thing works, it explains each of the characters persona quite well, it provides you with some like-able villains, and then at the ends not only gives you a slightly satisfying ending, but some character development. You find out Sasuke isn't such a stuck up side character as he lets on, you find out Naruto demon's mean business, you also find you that Sakura as about as useful as Rose Tyler.

Like I said the Anime, the anime just does fights better and makes them longer. That's it, at least bleach does something with it's filler from time to time, this just has pointless things that only drag the plot along.
 

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I don't know why i don't like naruto as much as the other things i watch. I don't know, maybe I've just never liked anything from shonen jump. (Well, except Death note.)
 

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because Naruto is as low-brow as anime storytelling gets. It is also incredibly BORING.

Naruto today is but am empty husk of what the show once was. It introduced us to a likable character who, while important, was no more so then the dozens or so others. Look at the second intro this show had: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3QZhzSoBLU it's amazing! There were all these characters with interesting back stories and plots revolving around them. There was actual tension in the fights, you never knew who would win between two good guys fighting or even the fights against the badguys. The original Naruto anime introduced a world with infinite possibilities on the horizon.

And now we have the current Naruto, which is as different from it's predecessor as it is from Bleach and One Piece. It is a emo love affair between Naruto and Sasuke, one that's been going on for, what... 5+ actual years now!? Every single other character in the show (aside form a few villains) are completely irrelevant. Neji, Rock lee, Shikamaru, etc. are all 10x more useless now then they ever were as children, and Naruto is in perpetual god-mode constantly learning ultra invincible jitsus that make everyone all the more useless. Seeing anything related to Naruto today is just mind numbingly boring, as it's all paint-by-numbers schlock. Naruto has become a faultless character, and the whole Sasuke thing became boring and monotonous years ago.

I seriously suggest people watch One Piece instead. That is a show with 500+ episodes and it's story is still as strong as ever. Every character matters, every character is still interesting in their own right, and the main character still needs all of them to win at the end of the day. That's how you tell a character driven story. If 500+ is too intimidating for you, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood is another good example of superb storytelling in anime.
 

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Good series end. Bad series drag on and get milked, essentially turning into a DBZ clone.

-snip-

Bad Series: Full Metal Alchemist. 111 Episodes. Again, at first, it was a great anime. I liked it for about the first 30 or so episodes. But then they decide, lets tank the series with another 21 episodes, full of massive plot holes you can fly a Gundam through. But that wasnt enough. Then, they wonder how they can milk its fame more. OH! I know! Lets redo the entire series a little more true to the story this time, but make it drag on for an additional 13 episodes, bringing its total to 64. A combined 111 episodes, half of which you already watched, because you saw the first series.

-snip-
I'll agree with you on everything but this. Full Metal Alchemist has a very strange set of circumstances revolving around it, which explains very well why all of this came outhow it did.

First, the anime series was set into motion long before the manga was really anywhere. The first series creates non existant characters, and steers the plot in a direction that is nowhere close to how it was actually meant to be.
What the original series(by this I mean the first anime, as the second follows the manga much more closely, since by the time Brotherhood ended, so did the story) covered in about 40 episodes, Brotherhood covered in about 12. Everything after that is completely canon, and true story with respect to the manga, with the occasional break (ONE episode if at all) to have things cool down. If you didn't read the manga, that means about 50 episodes were closer to the story than the original could ever hope to be.

The main plot of the manga is completely non-existant in the first series, Brotherhood holds true.

So I'll agree with you 50%. Full Metal Alchemist was a bad anime. Brotherhood is of a much higher quality, and really doesn't deserve to be grouped with its weak counterpart.
 

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Thaius said:
There are a ton of reasons why Naruto is bad. Chakara for instance makes no sense with what was explained at first I mean at this point in the show everyone's essentially a wizard because for the most part they just shoot beams at each other. Also how does chakara make you live forever?

If they are ninja why doesn't anybody ever sneak I mean they did at the start a little but its was quickly abandoned so that makes no sense. I get that its Naruto's thing to run straight in but everybody does it not just him.

The anime has increasingly low quality especially in the later seasons I remember watching a whole minute of the same three punch cycle of a character hell the jumping sequences don't make any sense and they take up a good chunk of half the episodes.

The characters motives are very poorly constructed. Sasuke wants to destroy the whole village because one guy requested his brother kill his clan effectively saving thousands of lives not to mention it was his brothers choice to go along with the plan and the clan really had a shallow reasoning for trying to take over and this is just one character there are many more too.

The worst thing of all is that everything gets solved by love.
You've read an awful lot of the series for someone who doesn't enjoy it very much.

Chakra IS magic. Or might as well be. It doesn't need to be explained. It's generally accepted that mysterious, powerful forces that come from within that are capable of an uncertain plethora of abilities can exist within a fictional universe without breaking suspension of disbelief.

Remember when they tried to explain the force in star wars? Everybody hates midichlorians.

Yeah, the animation is relatively cheap. But you gotta stretch out a limited budget to have an episode every week. And on. And on. And on. Besides, the anime is supplementary material anyway.

And Sasuke wants to kill everyone because he's buttfuck crazy. He goes from traumatized 8 year old, to traumatized brooding loner 12 year old, to traumatized axe crazy 15 year old. It's an entirely logical progression based on the events of the series.

And correction, everything is solved by FRIENDSHIP and TEAMWORK.
 

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chaosyoshimage said:
Saltyk said:
chaosyoshimage said:
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chaosyoshimage said:
It's a popular Shonen anime with all the pros and cons that come with being that. Personally I like it but the anime is only good when they go all out on the animation. Too much pointless filler and dragged out scenes. To me, the manga is essentially Harry Potter with ninjas, which I consider a good thing.

BTW, I'm a big fan of the whole Naruto relates to the villain thing that always goes on with characters like Sasuke, Gaara, and Pain...
Okay, so this basically sums up my feelings about Naruto. But why does your avatar have to be Cell? The single villain/character I hated the most from pretty much any anime. And not in the way you are supposed to hate villains. I just flat hated his character.
And why does your avatar have to be Cloud? My single most hated character from pretty much any video game, Zack was way cooler. Also, Cell has a DS in this picture, it's awesome.
Touche, bag.

Because I couldn't find an avatar that I really liked when I originally selected it, and Cloud was the best choice I could come up with. And I suck at coming up with decent ideas for avatars and even if I could, I couldn't do the editing to make it work.

Though, I do like him. I also like Zack. I actually stopped playing at a certain point in Crisis Core as I slowly started to realize that he was gonna die, soon. And yes, the DS is awesome in that picture.
Lol, I was just messing with you, I'm mostly apathetic towards Cloud, don't hate him or love him. My opinion on him is that he has a cool sword and looks cute in a dress. You quit Crisis Core when you realized Zack was going to die? But, that's the best part! So sad...

OT: Naruto and such, "SMOKING DREAMERS! DO DO DO DO DO!" Cookies to anybody that gets the references, or cares enough to reply to said reference.
Oh, David Bowie, I was just playing along with you.

Well, that sword has had plenty of owners, including Zack. Guess that makes it a bit of a slut. Anyway, allow me to clarify. I took a hiatus from Crisis Core as I approached what I knew would soon be Zack's death. I eventually came back, completed all the side missions, and beat the game. And then, I cursed Zack's death. I really liked him. He was the polar opposite of Cloud in every way. Which was kinda nice.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go have sex with Sasuke and smoke a cigarette in the afterglow. Maybe after that, I'll hate on Sakura for no real reason. And do you like One Piece, Joe Kage?
 

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I really don't get why people are hating on naruto. I really like it (my profile pic is a character from it) but i guess the dub and filler episodes could be reasons why.
 

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I know threads about why someone else does or doesn't like something I do or don't like are abundant, but this is one I just really don't understand, and I'd be interested to know why. Personally, it?s not my favorite anime, but I love it anyway. It?s a fantastic coming-of-age story with interesting, strategic battles and well-developed characters that are easy to care deeply about.

It?s fine not to like it, of course; you are entitled to your tastes. But the anime community seems to largely consider Naruto the quintessential example of a terrible, overrated anime, like it?s the cool thing to hate, and I just don?t understand that.

A common complaint I?ve heard is about the filler, but the fact is this is not sufficient reason to decry the show?s quality, mainly because it is simply the lesser of two evils. Shows like Full Metal Alchemist and Death Note, while both amazing shows, amount to disappointing endings because they just did their own thing when they caught up with the manga. Naruto instead takes the approach of making a filler arc when it catches up to the manga on which it?s based, in order to let the manga get ahead enough for the anime to adapt it. Filler is necessary in order to keep the show running while allowing the show to still follow the story of its source material. That?s far better than just going off on its own and eventually ending disappointingly.

Beyond that, if you hate the filler, skip it. The rest of the show is great, even if some of the filler really isn?t; something such as filler, which is made specifically so it can be easily skipped, simply does not speak to the quality of the show as a whole.

I?ve heard plenty about the constant flashbacks and monologues, but it?s really only a little more excessive than most everything that comes out of Japan. They love that stuff. When a character realizes something important, or has a moment of self-reflection, they will monologue about it. That?s how it works; the vast majority of anime and JRPGs consist largely of this inner dialogue. So I don?t understand how this can be an argument against one particular show without being an argument against the entire artistic culture (which I think we can all agree would be a bit ethno-centric).

These are just my thoughts; anyone care to share what it is that apparently makes this show so terrible?

EDIT: The English dub is also a weak argument (though it is awful). Don't complain if what amounts to an American vocal adaptation is sub-par, just watch the original.
As a huge anime nerd, cosplayer, and frequent con attendee I can tell you exactly why people don't like Naruto. First off, it is a good manga. The anime, however, doesn't quite live up to the manga. As an anime, it also falls flat when compared to anime like Bleach, One Piece, Soul Eater, etc. (btw if you do like Naruto you'll probably love all of the anime I listed)

However the big reason is the fans of the series. The fans of Naruto are usually the some of the loudest, most obnoxious fans you'll ever meet who act like Naruto is the Holy Grail of anime and if it isn't your favorite then you obviously either don't like anime or you have a hole in your head. This is especially bad when it comes to conventions, where the Naruto cosplayers and fans outnumber the cosplayers and fans of other series and then start acting like stuck-up brats simply because their show managed to suck up the soul of the most people.

Another reason, although not quite as common and one I don't stand by but still existing, is that Naruto is not a ninja. Ninja in reality wouldn't have long drawn out battles using ridiculous over-the-top powers, but instead whoever could hide better and get the sneak attack on the other would win.

Hope this helps, and don't let what other people say about it stop you from liking it.
 

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I dont give a rats fart what anyone says, but personally i think the Dragonball,Z, and yes even GT, were the best animes. If you dont like it, or have a hateful opinion, dont comment to me. more or less cos im in a blaaa mood and dont feel like arguing :p
 

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Because people dislike everything that is too mainstream. They're all hipsters who need to express their love for things not recognized as much.
 

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Saltyk said:
chaosyoshimage said:
Saltyk said:
chaosyoshimage said:
Saltyk said:
chaosyoshimage said:
It's a popular Shonen anime with all the pros and cons that come with being that. Personally I like it but the anime is only good when they go all out on the animation. Too much pointless filler and dragged out scenes. To me, the manga is essentially Harry Potter with ninjas, which I consider a good thing.

BTW, I'm a big fan of the whole Naruto relates to the villain thing that always goes on with characters like Sasuke, Gaara, and Pain...
Okay, so this basically sums up my feelings about Naruto. But why does your avatar have to be Cell? The single villain/character I hated the most from pretty much any anime. And not in the way you are supposed to hate villains. I just flat hated his character.
And why does your avatar have to be Cloud? My single most hated character from pretty much any video game, Zack was way cooler. Also, Cell has a DS in this picture, it's awesome.
Touche, bag.

Because I couldn't find an avatar that I really liked when I originally selected it, and Cloud was the best choice I could come up with. And I suck at coming up with decent ideas for avatars and even if I could, I couldn't do the editing to make it work.

Though, I do like him. I also like Zack. I actually stopped playing at a certain point in Crisis Core as I slowly started to realize that he was gonna die, soon. And yes, the DS is awesome in that picture.
Lol, I was just messing with you, I'm mostly apathetic towards Cloud, don't hate him or love him. My opinion on him is that he has a cool sword and looks cute in a dress. You quit Crisis Core when you realized Zack was going to die? But, that's the best part! So sad...

OT: Naruto and such, "SMOKING DREAMERS! DO DO DO DO DO!" Cookies to anybody that gets the references, or cares enough to reply to said reference.
Oh, David Bowie, I was just playing along with you.

Well, that sword has had plenty of owners, including Zack. Guess that makes it a bit of a slut. Anyway, allow me to clarify. I took a hiatus from Crisis Core as I approached what I knew would soon be Zack's death. I eventually came back, completed all the side missions, and beat the game. And then, I cursed Zack's death. I really liked him. He was the polar opposite of Cloud in every way. Which was kinda nice.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I must go have sex with Sasuke and smoke a cigarette in the afterglow. Maybe after that, I'll hate on Sakura for no real reason. And do you like One Piece, Joe Kage?
That's David Bowie-sama-sempai-sensei-kun to you. Anyway, so you did beat it and did all the side missions, I kinda stopped doing those after awhile near the end. Angeal, Cloud, and Zack, that's only three, so it's not really a slut.
 

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But in all seriousness, it's mostly likely the annoying as shit fanbase. They worship the show to an extremely embarrassing level. I like the show. It has its ups and downs, but its a fun show to watch...though I don't like going around in public talking about it with other people...because most people either hate it or love it too much.

I think people dislike the craze of it and use that as a starting point to look into it and really pick it apart, when it doesn't really deserve to be. A CARTOON about NINJAS using MAGIC shouldn't be taken and analyzed for realistic points. It's a show that's trying to be action packed, funny at times, and also have a good moral to it in the end.

I honestly don't get ALL the hate, though I do understand most of it. If people want to bicker about a story, characters, or animation of something popular, look at Pokemon. You nerds worship that junk like narutards worship Naruto. And yes, even the first season of pokemon wasn't that good. You like it for the nostalgia factor, when in hinds eye it isn't very good.
 

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Mainly because I watched 30 some odd episodes and dick all happened. 5 minutes into the first episode of Bleach and Ichigo was already throwing down with the dead. 30 some odd episodes into Bleach and how many people/things had Ichigo curb stomped? The same could be said of Inuyasha, High School of the Dead, Trigun, Chrono Chrusade, Blue Seed, Wolf's Rain, and on and on. Basically, much like MGS4, the ratio of worth-while to not worth-while is highly sckewed in the wrong direction.