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Shirastro

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...called Dutch if their country is called either Holland or Netherlands? :)

It's the only country/nation that uses different words for the nationality and name of the country, as far as i know.
 

Lukeje

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Ermm... I'm pretty sure they call themselves `Nederlanders'. At least wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_people] says so. And I think the real question is why we call Germans German when they come from Deutschland.
 

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Because the English are weird as hell. The Netherlands is our country's name, and in The Netherlands we call ourselves "Nederlanders". To make matters worse, people started calling The Netherlands Holland, which are only 2 out of the 12 provincies of The Netherlands, and not the whole country.

TL;DR The English are doing it wrong
 

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Because the people who make maps often don't live in the country they are mapping, and some countries decide not to make a deal about it. My Japanese teacher didn't learn the word Japan until she was 14, she had just always used Nippon.
 

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I've wondered that a lot of times myself, it's rather strange. A lot of people confuse us for "Deutsch" a.k.a. Germans that way. It's really annoying. The avarage conversation with newly met british people always go like this:

"I'm Dutch"
-"Aha, Ich spreche auch ein bisschen Deutsch".

It gets really annoying. I have no idea why people do this, though.
 

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Well, Holland and the Netherlands used mean to mean two different areas (I don't remember what they meant but it was like one meant the whole country and another meant the whole country minus two provinces). And I guess that both names lost their exact definition at one point and that by most people they're used for the same thing.

We call our land both Holland and the Netherlands.
 

TheDuckbunny

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I quote from the internet:

"This word is the English counterpart of the Dutch words "Diets" and "Duits". In Dutch "Duits" means "German", where the Germans call themselves "Deutsche". Around 1290 in the northern and eastern part of the Netherlands the word was: "duutsc" and as the Frisian people (living in the North) spoke a language much more alike English, the English adapted "dutch" from Frisian "duutsc". Later "duutsc" became the Dutch word for our eastern neighbors: Duits (German)."

It actually makes for an interesting little history lesson.
 

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The Brittish have a long and weird history with changing names without informing anyone. Point in case, the names in the Bible have all been UPDATED to speak to a more MODERN crowd (In the middle ages.)
 

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If I remember correctly from history class. Most of our handle was done at the coast with "Noord-Holland" and "Zuid-Holland" but the actual country was called The Netherlands.

Because all the business was done in that area I assume foreigners called us Holland just because the big cities are in that area. (Amsterdam and Rotterdam)
 

Shirastro

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Lukeje said:
Ermm... I'm pretty sure they call themselves `Nederlanders'. At least wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_people] says so. And I think the real question is why we call Germans German when they come from Deutschland.
But that's different.
Deutschland is "Germany" in English language, hence Germany-->Germans.
There are many countries that are called differently from the original "indigenous" name:

Deutschland > Germany
Nipon > Japan
Elada > Greece

But Dutch do not come from Dutchland or Dutchuny, they come from Holland/Netherlands.
 

slavec

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It's fairly simple actually.

Dutch is explained above by TheDuckbunny, so I'll take the rest.

Holland refers to the provinces North-Holland and South-Holland. These two provinces were the most important during the golden age of the Netherlands, and merchants would often refer to themselves as being from Holland rather then from the Dutch republic, and later the Kingdom of the Netherlands. When the country became the Kingdom of the Netherlands, calling it the Netherlands became more common. A lot of people still used Holland because it's much easier to say then the Netherlands, and most foreigners knew the country by that name. Hence why it's still popular today.

Hell, I usually prefer to say Holland instead of the Netherlands.

You could even call it "the Low Countries" and it would still refer to the Netherlands. Or Holland. And the Dutch.....

OK, is is confusing as hell.
 

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Why are the French called French in English? French isn't a country!

Don't get me started on those Vikings

kayisking said:
We don't. You call us Dutch, we call ourselves "Nederlanders".
spreken se deutsch?

*trying to find a suitable image of those rascal Madagascar Penguins, Google has failed me!*
 

Lukeje

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Shirastro said:
Lukeje said:
Ermm... I'm pretty sure they call themselves `Nederlanders'. At least wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_people] says so. And I think the real question is why we call Germans German when they come from Deutschland.
But that's different.
Deutschland is "Germany" in English language, hence Germany-->Germans.
There are many countries that are called differently from the original "indigenous" name:

Deutschland > Germany
Nipon > Japan
Elada > Greece

But Dutch do not come from Dutchland or Dutchuny, they come from Holland/Netherlands.
My point was that if we were going to call any people `Dutch', then Germans would be the prime candidates.
 

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Kavachi said:
TL;DR The English are doing it wrong
In France we call the English "Angle's", Angleterre means Earth of the Angle's because of their tribe, they even misspell their own name for goodness sake!

That is a poor example, but fuck it I'm running with it, Germans to us are Vandle's, the French are gaul's, my Scottish friends are Gallic's
*pounds chest* Big love for the Gallics
*peace homies!*
 

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ColdStorage said:
Kavachi said:
TL;DR The English are doing it wrong
In France we call the English "Angle's", Angleterre means Earth of the Angle's because of their tribe, they even misspell their own name for goodness sake!

That is a poor example, but fuck it I'm running with it, Germans to us are Vandle's, the French are gaul's, my Scottish friends are Gallic's
*pounds chest* Big love for the Gallics
*peace homies!*
He he, Italians call Germans "Tedeschi" even though they call Germany "Germagna".....god knows why.
Serbians call Germany "Nemacka" and Germans "Nemci",i have no idea where those names came from.
 

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It's you English folk who call us Dutch.

We refere to ourselves as Nederlanders or Hollanders.