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GundamSentinel

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kayisking said:
We don't. You call us Dutch, we call ourselves "Nederlanders".
Not much else to add. Silly foreigners with their weird names. And stop calling our country Holland!
 

Robert Ewing

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In their native tongue it's Nederland. or something along those lines. In English its the Netherlands. In Britain in particular we call it Holland. You may think this is completely baseless, but it isn't. Holland is actually an Area in the Netherlands. I'm not sure why the Brits use it to describe the whole country, but I suppose we also call the USA, America. While in fact the USA isn't America, It's just a country within America.
 

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People, plz stop ranting about wether the name of the country is Holland or the Netherlands, the name is the Netherlands, okay, the facts don't care about your logic, it is just the Netherlands.
 

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Maraveno said:
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Sgt. Sykes said:
While we're at it, why is the country called Holland somewhere and Netherlands ('low grounds') elsewhere? That's some schizophrenic country :)

Either way, researching history of words is very interesting. I think I'll look this up.
because officially THE NETHERLANDS would mean including belgium luxemburg and the northern part of france

The Netherlands blatantly means : the low countries
I always thought that the common name for that region was Benelux....i just found out that Benelux only refers to some sort of economic union between those countries.

Live and learn i guess :)
You are actually right. Our country is called The Netherlands. No matter what it actually means, it's just the country. I don't think you'll make many friends in Belgium if you lop them in with the Netherlands.

Anyway people should really stop calling it Holland, it's annoying. Ask any Brit what they think about people calling their entire continent just 'England'.
you're right somewhat but wrong in your conclusion, you ask an englishman he'll say england, you ask a scot he'll say " no you *** I'm scottish/brittish"

It's not everyone it's those parts that are actually heriditary different

Also : Belgium Belongs to THE NETHERLANDS because they are one of the low countries
The reason why everyone calls Holland ,Holland because of the view of The Netherlands being the low countries

Neder-landen Neder=Lage=Low

Ask any educated belgian on the subject and they'll tell you the same
Again, I know what the name of my country means. But again, it's just the one country. Belgium has been part of the Republic of the Netherlands in the past, but is not anymore. I don't know how I can make it more clear to you.
I'm trying to make clear to you that belgium IS a low country a "Neder-land" thus in the international community the area would be referred to as Netherlands, the countries as holland and belgium
I'm sorry, but you're just wrong on all accounts. Holland is not a country. The Netherlands is. Belgium is. Eveybody in the world but you seems to know that.
I'm not wrong
on any account you *** listen : this area round here is called the netherlands , the country is too for itself but as do the japanese live in NIPON and not in japan
It's the same thing, people consider this Holland due to the contrast I just drew for you now please stop with your nonsensical debate, you're not even reading my posts properly
Would you mind sharing with us a few sources to back up your claim ('The Netherlands' including Belgium and Luxembourg)?
 

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Chemical Alia said:
I've always been annoyed at being Pennsylvania Dutch, which most people aren't aware isn't Dutch at all, but German. Even the language is German, it's derived from a southwestern dialect. I was told that the misnomer stems from the word "deutsch/deitsch".
How do you guys make the birch beer? And is the recipe a guarded secret?

It's not that strange. It happens to the English in Italian. English people (or the language) are englese, but the country is called Inghilterra.
 

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Shirastro said:
He he, Italians call Germans "Tedeschi" even though they call Germany "Germagna".....god knows why.
Serbians call Germany "Nemacka" and Germans "Nemci",i have no idea where those names came from.
Wait waa? I'm from Bulgaria and we just call Germany "Gurmaanyia" (how you pronounce it hard to do it anyway, but spoken it's roughly the same), the entire region besides Greece Romania and possibly Hungary has a similar language and everyone can understand much of the other languages, so I'm bewildered why the Serbians would have a different name.

But yah Montenegro is actually in their language "Cnobec", it also means black mountain but I assume it's Italy who gave everyone its name so yah makes sense.
 

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Translation differences I would assume, as someone pointed out in English we call Germany Germany, while in German it is called Deutschland. Just like how in French england is called L'anglais
 

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Germans cal themselves Deutsch, Finns call themselves suomalaiset (I believe), Greeks call themselves Έλληνες (Ellenes), the Japanese call themselves 日本人 (Nihonjin, Nipponjin)(according to Wikipedia), and so on. English has a lot of names for places and people from those places that differ immensely from said places names for themselves. I don't know why this is in most cases--I know "German" comes from the Roman name for the region of present-day Germany, "Germania", but I don't know about any other instance. Come to think of it, I don't know how extensively other languages do this. Anyone?
 

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Warforger said:
Shirastro said:
He he, Italians call Germans "Tedeschi" even though they call Germany "Germagna".....god knows why.
Serbians call Germany "Nemacka" and Germans "Nemci",i have no idea where those names came from.
Wait waa? I'm from Bulgaria and we just call Germany "Gurmaanyia" (how you pronounce it hard to do it anyway, but spoken it's roughly the same), the entire region besides Greece Romania and possibly Hungary has a similar language and everyone can understand much of the other languages, so I'm bewildered why the Serbians would have a different name.

But yah Montenegro is actually in their language "Cnobec", it also means black mountain but I assume it's Italy who gave everyone its name so yah makes sense.
South Slavic languages might be similar, but they are not the same. It might be Gurmaanyia in Bulgaria, but it's Nemacka in Serbia.
Just like Netherlands is called Holandia in Serbia, and Nizozemska in Croatia (Nizozemska is a literal translation meaning low-lands)

Oh and i don't know where on earth did u dig that "Cnobec" thing about Montenegro.
Montenegro is called Crna Gora (which translated does mean black mountain, that part was right) and it's called like that in all the ex-Yugoslav languages.
 

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Because we're awesome. We just roll like that, you know? We go against all logic - legalized drugs, building under sea level, surely a strange name for our people in English won't hurt either :p

For real though, it has to do with that crazy medieval language called Diets that was spoken here way way way back, but some one else in this topic probably already explained that.
 

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Kavachi said:
Because the English are weird as hell. The Netherlands is our country's name, and in The Netherlands we call ourselves "Nederlanders". To make matters worse, people started calling The Netherlands Holland, which are only 2 out of the 12 provincies of The Netherlands, and not the whole country.

TL;DR The English are doing it wrong
I learned something new today! Thank you for the corrections! :D
 

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Lukeje said:
Ermm... I'm pretty sure they call themselves `Nederlanders'. At least wikipedia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_people] says so. And I think the real question is why we call Germans German when they come from Deutschland.
Perhaps the Dutch/Deutch thing is from an archaic word for the general area, which hangs on in different forms in different languages...
 

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kayisking said:
We don't. You call us Dutch, we call ourselves "Nederlanders".
Exactly. Except replace "We" with "They" and "You" with "We". Oh and "Us" with "Them". Just because I'm not Dutch.

EDIT: Oops. And also replace "Ourselves" with "Themselves".

However I do still call them "The Dutch" since it's become a basic thing to say.
 

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english seamen mistook them for german ("Deutsch") and the name kinda stuck.

like, really stuck.
 

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SckizoBoy said:
My word! Thank heaven I've never been further north than Watford! XD

And I suppose there is the threat of the Scotch invasion! LOL

BTW we have a certain proportion of chavs around here, would you be so kind as to house them... or whatever it is you do...?! =P (flamethrowers delivered on request)

[sub][sub][sub][sub][sub][sub]Now if you'll excuse me, I have some French fancies to eat and a warm scented bath to attend to![/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub]
Unfortunatly Chavs are a country wide problem. We have them here too and these are northern chavs we're dealing with... maybe a MOAB or two and a batallion of MLRS vehicles? You southern folk certainly have the money for it lol.

Zantos said:
I'd totally agree with this, but I doubt you're from Barnsley so I don't like you. You're probably all "Why-ai like pet" and stuff.
Nope, I'm a dirty Manchester peasent. So I'm more "Eee-Are mate" than "Why-ai like"
 

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ColdStorage said:
Kavachi said:
TL;DR The English are doing it wrong
In France we call the English "Angle's", Angleterre means Earth of the Angle's because of their tribe, they even misspell their own name for goodness sake!
Anglo-land (land of Anglo-Saxon Germanic tribesman)

Engla-land (Engla = plural (kinda) for Angle in Anglo-Saxon language)

England = Land of Angles.

Granted, it's not as cool as Earth of the Angles, but it's the same basic idea there.

Zantos said:
I'd totally agree with this, but I doubt you're from Barnsley so I don't like you. You're probably all "Why-ai like pet" and stuff.
Barsley is just unimportant version of Rotherham, which is just poor-man's version of Sheffield.
SHEFFIELD, SHEFFIELD, SHEFFIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELD!!!

Listen to this! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpWhDJG0DCo&feature=related]
 

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THEJORRRG said:
ColdStorage said:
Kavachi said:
TL;DR The English are doing it wrong
In France we call the English "Angle's", Angleterre means Earth of the Angle's because of their tribe, they even misspell their own name for goodness sake!
Anglo-land (land of Anglo-Saxon Germanic tribesman)

Engla-land (Engla = plural (kinda) for Angle in Anglo-Saxon language)

England = Land of Angles.

Granted, it's not as cool as Earth of the Angles, but it's the same basic idea there.

Zantos said:
I'd totally agree with this, but I doubt you're from Barnsley so I don't like you. You're probably all "Why-ai like pet" and stuff.

Barsley is just unimportant version of Rotherham, which is just poor-man's version of Sheffield.
SHEFFIELD, SHEFFIELD, SHEFFIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELD!!!

Listen to this! [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpWhDJG0DCo&feature=related]

Yeah but in French Terre is Earth...

Well actually the French word Terre has a metric fuckton of meanings dependant on context, it can also mean mud, my AnglyMuddy friend!, a bit like the whole "what's the definition of a planet?", so their you have it my AnglePlanet friend!

Pluto's all like "I don't know, WTF man?"

LANGUAGES ARE MAD
 

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Dags90 said:
Chemical Alia said:
I've always been annoyed at being Pennsylvania Dutch, which most people aren't aware isn't Dutch at all, but German. Even the language is German, it's derived from a southwestern dialect. I was told that the misnomer stems from the word "deutsch/deitsch".
How do you guys make the birch beer? And is the recipe a guarded secret?

It's not that strange. It happens to the English in Italian. English people (or the language) are englese, but the country is called Inghilterra.
I never made it or no anybody that did, but it sure annoys me that it's pretty much nonexistent in Texas. It tastes similar to root beer, so I guess it's a similar process. I don't think they use sarsaparilla anymore v: Shoo fly pie now, that's a recipe I can get behind.

But yeah, I'm pretty sure it happens in just about every language.