Why are most Anime nowadays absolutely stupid.

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OuroborosChoked

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Animes I have not seen anyone mention (and I don't know why):
- Serial Experiments: Lain
- 5cm Per Second (and the rest of Makoto Shinkai's work)
- Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni
- Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi
- PaniPoni Dash!
- Elfen Lied
- Strawberry Marshmellow
- GHOST IN THE SHELL: Stand Alone Complex (seriously guys, wtf?)
- Gantz (okay, well Gantz was disappointing...)
- Haibane-Renmei
- Niea 7
- Texhnolyze (can you tell I like Yoshitoshi ABe?)
- Welcome to the NHK
- Ergo Proxy

Okay, I think that's it for now. What the hell, people? All of these animes rule. Have you just not been exposed to them?
 

sanzo

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OuroborosChoked said:
Animes I have not seen anyone mention (and I don't know why):
- Serial Experiments: Lain
- 5cm Per Second (and the rest of Makoto Shinkai's work)
- Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni
- Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi
- PaniPoni Dash!
- Elfen Lied
- Strawberry Marshmellow
- GHOST IN THE SHELL: Stand Alone Complex (seriously guys, wtf?)
- Gantz (okay, well Gantz was disappointing...)
- Haibane-Renmei
- Niea 7
- Texhnolyze (can you tell I like Yoshitoshi ABe?)
- Welcome to the NHK
- Ergo Proxy

Okay, I think that's it for now. What the hell, people? All of these animes rule. Have you just not been exposed to them?
(Bolded all the one's I've seen)

I think that's the main problem. Most people who haven't been exposed to much to anime see things like Bleach and think it's indicative of all anime, or just assume it's aimed only at kids

Like I said before: Anime is just like regular TV; there's tons of different genres, just look around and you'll find something that interests you
 

antipunt

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sanzo said:
OuroborosChoked said:
Animes I have not seen anyone mention (and I don't know why):
- Serial Experiments: Lain
- 5cm Per Second (and the rest of Makoto Shinkai's work)
- Higurashi No Naku Koro Ni
- Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi
- PaniPoni Dash!
- Elfen Lied
- Strawberry Marshmellow
- GHOST IN THE SHELL: Stand Alone Complex (seriously guys, wtf?)
- Gantz (okay, well Gantz was disappointing...)
- Haibane-Renmei
- Niea 7
- Texhnolyze (can you tell I like Yoshitoshi ABe?)
- Welcome to the NHK
- Ergo Proxy

Okay, I think that's it for now. What the hell, people? All of these animes rule. Have you just not been exposed to them?
(Bolded all the one's I've seen)

I think that's the main problem. Most people who haven't been exposed to much to anime see things like Bleach and think it's indicative of all anime, or just assume it's aimed only at kids

Like I said before: Anime is just like regular TV; there's tons of different genres, just look around and you'll find something that interests you
^this
 

Nutcase

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Ain't it the same with all shounens (fighting shows), they are all trying to be DBZ.
Correction: shounen, "boy", means that the main intended audience is boys. Common threads are action, activity, self improvement and power fantasy. Plots don't have that much emotional variety or depth. This doesn't equal fighting - Hikaru No Go and Initial D are two examples of shounen anime with no fighting. Good ones IMO.

Being stuck watching shitty shows is completely one's own fault. I just googled "good anime" as an experiment, and hits #1 and #2 were both chock-full of suggestions. Just picking a few names out at random from those, then in turn googling those names for a quick "sanity check", will end up in finding good anime. Thanks to the internet hivemind I don't even end up *trying* anything bad, mediocre at worst. There have been a few times when I watched something that was pretty awful, but even then reviews and opinions had given plenty of warning, and I was proceeding only to feed some kind of specific interest.

After a person has some specific desires - "any good shows with the same kind of mood as show X?", "any good shows with a mystery/detective component?", etc. - then it makes sense to ask for help.

Out of somewhat recent anime, I have watched Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei, Mushishi, Mononoke and Gankutsuou. All good.
 

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If an anime exceeds 52 eps I'm generally wary of it: Dragaonball, Naruto, Bleach most obvious of examples. That's not to say anime under 52 eps are good, a lot are a load of trollop but the smaller the amount of eps generally the better the anime as it is not as dragged out, condensed storyline. I've long since given up on Bleach and Naruto

Here are a few of my fav anime: Neon Genesis Evangelion, Trigun, Serial Experiments Lain, Texnolyse, Gundam Wing/00, Full metal Panic!, Fullmetal Alchemist, Ergo Proxy, Gungrave, FLCL, Black Lagoon, Samurai Champloo and Ghost in the Shell
 

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Crash486 said:
Gormourn said:
Well, that's probably a formula applicable to most shonen shows with more then 50 or 100 episodes. The longer it draws on, the worse it becomes >_<
Which is why a good rule of thumb is, stop watching past episode 50. Any good, self respecting anime will have run its course by then. The only exception I'm willing to make to that rule is Kenshin. Though even kenshin got pretty lame after the Kyoto arc.
The only reason for that is that the end of the Kyoto arc marks the point at which the anime stopped following the manga, because they'd caught up to it. Apparently you can't put an anime on haitus in Japan or something, they had to keep making episodes, none of which came from the original mangaka. There was a very noticable decline in both popularity and quality until it got cancelled, so the final arc of the manga never got anime-ised. Which is a goddamn shame because it was the best damn arc.

Anyway, to OP: Most anime is crap because of Sturgeon's Law [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SturgeonsLaw]
 

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Cowboy Bebop & Samurai Champloo were both awesome. Not surprisingly from the mind of Shinichir&#333; Watanabe.

There's supposed to be another Cowboy Bebop movie coming out this year too. I think he worked on the Animatrix too, though i havent had a chance to see that i heard it was good.
 

Vic Sage

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Ive got to say that the rule of fifty episodes is actually pretty true, i mean i watched DBZ as a kid, (only 18 now, christ i feel old) and watched the early stuff, and then as it got to like episode 70 i lost interest because they had ran out of things to do which didnt involve, evil space alien, indestructable, cannot be killed, only Goku can kill it, Goku dies.
Now, Trigun, Cowboy Bebop, both fell into the "Anime which didnt go past 50 episodes and were awesome" bubble, and i think this was mainly because the writers had to actually think up some pretty decent plot designs that would Hook People In! (Caps for first letter because ive noticed that some Anime's now *ahem Bleach ahem* i cannot get back into because ive missed like 5 episodes and ill be damned if im going to watch them instead of doing anything else!)
The only Anime i can actually say didnt fall into the "50 episodes" rule, was the original Gundam Wing, with the young Heero Yuey, and death scythe and all those lot, because the characters were all well developed and actually able to sympathise for.
Thats my view anywho
PS whoops almost forgot Full Metal Alchemist, cant forget that show, was awesome, but not as good as Trigun, ive actually started buying the DVD sets off Amazon and play :S
 

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Because they're like the animes that the creators haven't put down and have only continued because of the huge fanbase. They can say it's because of the different sagas instead of amount of series of boss fights like in Dragonball but it's really because they can only come up with one anime idea, Think of anymore and it's gonna fail. Other times it's just a stupid concept that animators have just scratched out of the bottom of the barrel like Naruto. I mean an spiky blonde orange wearing ninja? How the hell does that work?
 

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Hellsing. It made me unable to tolerate shit anymore because I think, "Why read this? I could just read Hellsing and be more entertained!" The original anime series sucked so much fuck it sucked. Then Ultimate came along and why bother with anything else? Most of it is shit in comparison -.-
 

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The kind of anime that I hate is the Everyone-has-the-same-hobby anime. You know the ones: Pokeman, Beyblade, Yu-gi-oh, all the ones that revolve around balls. The ones where everyone has the same fucking hobby (except for a one episode character [or in Yu-gi-oh's case: a movie and twenty of the over 9000 episodes], that says he doesn't like it in the beginning of the episode, and through the whole episode everyone tries to make him conform, until the end of the episode, where he has this realization and conforms) and the bad guys tries to rule the world (or whatever the fuck goal they have) with that hobby or with a giant robot that fails epically. Which raises a question; Why isn't cutting the main character(s) open with a machete an option? To me it would be a nice change of pace, someone gets killed, and I laugh my ass off.

Another type of anime I hate is the ones with filler up the ass (Naruto, Bleach). For now I don't hate Bleach because it's on canon material (but the anime's filler arcs do suck harder than a drunk blond chick at a donkey show), but my main complaint is Naruto: Shippuden. When I first heard about it, I was all like "Dude that's cool, anime Shippuden." They get through the first two arcs and they get close to the manga, and they go to a shitty filler arc. I'm like "O...kay" at first, then as it got to the end, this arc starts to burns holes in my brain so I stopped watching it. They go back to canon for one arc, and immediately go to another filler arc (even though it's somewhat remotely close to the manga). But this time it involves one of the Tailed Beasts, and I'm like "What the hell man? This didn't happen." I watched some episodes and felt my IQ dropping a few points, so I stopped. I tried to watch the latest episodes and I felt my brain being deteriorated and lost most hope in the anime. I still read the manga because the plot's actually moving forward (unlike the anime) and one of the most epic battles I've ever read is happening.

In case you haven't noticed by now, I hate filler. Especially filler that kills a really good series, like Rurouni Kenshin and Gantz.

That is all
 

Break

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It fills me with dread, and even shame, that the last anime shows I enjoyed were Lucky Star and Azumanga Daioh. They both belong to this genre of female high school students who do nothing but talk. I'm serious, that's all it is. It's the stupidest premise I've ever heard, yet somehow it reaches me, and it's funny to watch. At the same time though, I feel a little weird watching it.
If you want to feel disgusted with yourself some more, I'd heartily recommend Manabi Straight. It's more or less the same idea.

More on topic: yeah, stuff's crap, what can you do?
 

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[Gavo said:
]Well, the last anime I watched all the way through was Code Geass. Now that was good.

Anyways, I think that if an anime goes over the 55-episode line, it is doomed to fail. See Naruto, Bleach, and DBZ (as a whole).

Oh, how American audiences neuter a good thing.

One more thing, I hate when an anime's from a manga, and they tone down the violence. For example, a giant splurt of blood is a small leak. Stuff like that.
I know what you mean. I used to watch Naruto and read the manga, and I was pissed off during the scene where Kakashi tried to use the Chidori (technique that basically turns his arm into a sword) on Zabuza. In both versions, Haku jumped in front and died. In the anime, it just looks like Kakashi is scratching Haku. In the manga, his arm went clear through him.

As for the backstories, lets use Bleach as an example. Now, it stands to reason that we're going to learn the backstories of the important characters, so we have Ichigo, Rukia, Byakuya, Kenpachi, Aizen, and Ichimaru. That's a lot, and that's just the Soul Society Arc. Now, why would you add to that by telling us the backstory of an inconsequential character like Momo?
 

nikomas1

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So... A lot of you think harem and ecchi manga is bad?
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uhm... well... Bye!

They are not all the same... And I think anime is as good as ever, you just have to know were look.
 

nikomas1

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KoRn_Leader said:
All the Anime sucks nowadays because...

I GREW UP!
I will never outgrow it! ever!
Surely there must be something you would like in my full 400gig D hard drive,
 

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Now, why would you add to that by telling us the backstory of an inconsequential character like Momo?
Because it fills up whole episodes without technically being a "filler". I think I could, between Bleach and Naruto (the animes) fill up 24 hours of useless backstory of useless characters.

orannis62 said:
I know what you mean. I used to watch Naruto and read the manga, and I was pissed off during the scene where Kakashi tried to use the Chidori (technique that basically turns his arm into a sword) on Zabuza. In both versions, Haku jumped in front and died. In the anime, it just looks like Kakashi is scratching Haku. In the manga, his arm went clear through him.
This is why I usually prefer manga to anime. Ugh.
Question, though, to test a theory: Was that episode in Japanese and subbed, or in the English version?