Why Are People Ignorant About Autotune

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Dr_Horrible

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I try not to listen to any type of music that uses autotune, but I admit that it can probably sound natural. Thing is, I prefer to listen to music from before things like autotune existed. I feel that music where the entire song has pitch correction is barely music at all, because it's not really the artist singing, it's a machine (in my opinion).
 

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DarthScorpio11 said:
I was arguing with someone who thinks no one uses autotune anymore. I mentioned that most mainstream artist use it, and if anything, it's more used that it ever was. I mentioned that wiz khalifa uses it a lot in his hooks, like during the singing parts in "Roll Up", and "No Sleep", Nikki Minaj uses it a lot in the singing parts of songs, Lil Wayne uses it, especially in the song "How To Love". Brittney Spears, and Lady Gaga...

They said something like, "no, listen to a T Pain song, and then listen to a Wiz song. Wiz doesn't sound like a robot."

*facepalm* Are people not aware that autotune was never meant to be robotic sounding. Autotune is capable of producing smooth natural-like sounds. It only gives off that T Pain sound when it's turned up a lot.
Tell your friend that he has confused "autotune" with "vocoder."

He probably thinks Anathema's "Closer," Imogen Heap's "Hide & Seek," & The Vocaloids are Autotune, but that's Vocoder.
 

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Deimateos said:
Autotune isn't meant to be used at full settings (T-Pain, etc), it's mainly used to nudge singers and their instruments into a specific key. The only reason people think autotune is gone is because "Autotune" became the public slang for the T-Pain sound.
Well, that and most people didn't notice it before that.

Hell, most of the people I talk to about music don't know a damn thing beyond "it's catchy."
 

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Autotune has been in major use since the end of the 90s... Oasis, a very good band mind you, uses autotune well/creatively.
 

Foxblade618

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Man, the Miracle of Sound guy is going to come in here and shred you and your love of autotune - and he will be right!

fenderstrat said:
because humans make mistakes and robots (or machines, or software) do not. also, a good singer can make a mistake sound good, which can actually add to the texture and mood of a song...
See Adele, or Florence + the Machine, or Dylan, or BB King, or Petty, or Anthony Kiedis, or the vast majority of the rock/alternative genre, or ANY other real musician
 

Vault101

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Im going to go out on a limb and say people are generally very ignorant about music...full stop

like people who dont..or simply flat out refuse to see any value in curret music or certain genres like rap, not saying you have to like such stuff....but the mindless hate it annoying and generally caused by nostalga
 

Mikodite

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This is reminding me of the time when someone accused MoS of using Autotune (which btw he doesn't). It wasn't pretty.

More topical, you can hear Autotune, though its worse when the person simply can't sing. Producers and ad executives have learned tha people will listen/watch/read anything regardless of quality because they are that stupid. So overproduced music with Autotune will always sell... until people get bored of that and its switched to music that sounds very indie but in fact is processed by producers cus that is selling at the time.

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Dr_Horrible said:
I try not to listen to any type of music that uses autotune, but I admit that it can probably sound natural. Thing is, I prefer to listen to music from before things like autotune existed. I feel that music where the entire song has pitch correction is barely music at all, because it's not really the artist singing, it's a machine (in my opinion).
So because a machine does it isn't music anymore? Yeah, I know it isn't your point, but its worth bringing up.

Music:
noun
1.
an art of sound in time that expresses ideas and emotions in significant forms through the elements of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color.
2.
the tones or sounds employed, occurring in single line (melody) or multiple lines (harmony), and sounded or to be sounded by one or more voices or instruments, or both.
3.
musical work or compositions for singing or playing.
4.
the written or printed score of a musical composition.
5.
such scores collectively.

Which is why I consider electronica music, I mean just cus a machine did it doesn't degrade it to 'noise'.
 

Robert Ewing

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Because it can make people who sound like dogs actually sound semi on tune. Not good, by any stretch of the imagination.

But it's basically destroying the very quality you need to be a singer. That quality is 'being able to sing'

It's something that should be discouraged, autotune is horrible, and it doesn't even sound good in my opinion.

Youtube - My Jeans. All the proof I need.
 

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Necromancer Jim said:
Because T-pain and such is what made Autotune well-known, and it's mostly used for it's robotic sound now.
Wrong, that honor belongs to none other than Cher. T-Pain merely introduced it to a newer, less fabulous, generation.
 

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LobsterFeng said:
I don't generally listen to rap and pop so I wouldn't know how auto-tune works either.
extreme auto tune = you singing in front of a fan to sound like a robot. :) artists use it to change how they sound. some slightly to correct mistakes...others....well...T-pain
 

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WaywardHaymaker said:
All I know about autotune is that Stephen Hawking lost his Epic Rap Battle of History because he cheated and used it.
Congrats you won an Internet!

OT: Autotune doesn't really bother me. I find T-pain autotune stupid but that's it really
 

wastedyouth89

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I think the main problem with autotuning is that people use it to cover for lack of singing ability. My problem is that rappers and singers use it because they can't sing well. Personally, I think good singers should stick to singing alone, bad singers shouldn't sing, and rappers should stick to rapping. I prefer that if a person can sing, they should just sing. Some artists, such as Imogen Heap, do use it sometimes but they also have proved that they can sing. If you use autotuning for added effects and creative changes to the sound its ok, but if you just use it to cover lack of talent it doesn't work.

I'd like to add that I think most autotune users, mainly T-Pain and Lil Wayne, are talentless idiots anyway and that autotuning their music just makes it more annoying and that it doesn't fix their awful lyrics.
 

DarthScorpio11

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Dags90 said:
Necromancer Jim said:
Because T-pain and such is what made Autotune well-known, and it's mostly used for it's robotic sound now.
Wrong, that honor belongs to none other than Cher. T-Pain merely introduced it to a newer, less fabulous, generation.
Cher didn't use autotune because autotune didn't exist in the 90s. Cher used a voice altering program, but it was done manually.