Why are people so opposed to non human game characters?
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hated playing as him, was just so boring.
So all Rts and RPGs have non human characters...every single one of them...ok then.SakSak said:
I have no idea...mister vrex, you've brought up an interesting issue.
With that outta the way, one of the reasons I think for this is that people are insanely narrow-minded. I mean, even just playing as and thereby identifying with a black guy in GTA: San Andreas was about as well recieved as a flesh wound (yes, yes, i quoted yatzhee, big whoop, I DONT hinge on everything he says, but that fit well).
Me, for one, I'd like to see Final Fantasy VII remade with furries instead of humans. That'd be pretty interesting, don't you think? Or we could do it with a game people don't worship like it's the second coming of christ, Final Fantasy VIII.
Dunno why, the FF series just seem so good for it.
Alternatively, it would be interesting to see a game where you could play a game assuming the role of a shapeshifter and like, gained people's abilities by killing and absorbing th-wait a minute....
But still, Alex Mercer is human, and so are most of the people he "interacts" with.
It'd be a cool concept to put in Elder Scrolls V or VI i guess.
Or we could base a game in Oblivion style for example on D&D, what with the dragonborn, the elves etc.
Yes, the traditional hero races are mostly humanoid to some degree, but who knows, maybe you could play as a goblin?
Still, these are just my two cents and I don't claim to light the world on fire with this comment, but I hope I can make people see that a full-raccoon mario or a bear-barret could make for barrels of fun
With that outta the way, one of the reasons I think for this is that people are insanely narrow-minded. I mean, even just playing as and thereby identifying with a black guy in GTA: San Andreas was about as well recieved as a flesh wound (yes, yes, i quoted yatzhee, big whoop, I DONT hinge on everything he says, but that fit well).
Me, for one, I'd like to see Final Fantasy VII remade with furries instead of humans. That'd be pretty interesting, don't you think? Or we could do it with a game people don't worship like it's the second coming of christ, Final Fantasy VIII.
Dunno why, the FF series just seem so good for it.
Alternatively, it would be interesting to see a game where you could play a game assuming the role of a shapeshifter and like, gained people's abilities by killing and absorbing th-wait a minute....
But still, Alex Mercer is human, and so are most of the people he "interacts" with.
It'd be a cool concept to put in Elder Scrolls V or VI i guess.
Or we could base a game in Oblivion style for example on D&D, what with the dragonborn, the elves etc.
Yes, the traditional hero races are mostly humanoid to some degree, but who knows, maybe you could play as a goblin?
Still, these are just my two cents and I don't claim to light the world on fire with this comment, but I hope I can make people see that a full-raccoon mario or a bear-barret could make for barrels of fun
I think this guy has it best.oliveira8 said:
Yup.
The entire thread is asking why every game protagonist must be human, when clearly they aren't.
Er... not all games have a human protagonist.
Destroy All Humans!
Destroy All Humans! 2
Destroy All Humans! Big Willy Unleashed
Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon
Ratchet and Clank
Ratchet and Clank 2
Ratchet and Clank 3
Ratchet: Deadlock
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters
Ratchet and Clank Tools of Destruction
Sly Cooper 1
Sly 2
Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves
Rogue Trooper
Sacred
Sacred 2
The Witcher (I know Geralt looks human, but he isn't)
OddWorld: Abe's Oddessessy
OddWorld: Abe's Exodus
OddWorld: Munch's Oddessy
OddWorld: Stranger's Wrath
NeverWinter Nights 2
Starcraft
Warcraft I, II, and III
God of War (I know that he is technically a human being, but he no longer has any of his humanity)
God of War II
Jak and Daxter
Jak 2
Jak 3
Jak 4 (the racing one)
Daxter
...
...
I'll post again when i think of more...
Destroy All Humans!
Destroy All Humans! 2
Destroy All Humans! Big Willy Unleashed
Destroy All Humans! Path of the Furon
Ratchet and Clank
Ratchet and Clank 2
Ratchet and Clank 3
Ratchet: Deadlock
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters
Ratchet and Clank Tools of Destruction
Sly Cooper 1
Sly 2
Sly 3: Honor Among Thieves
Rogue Trooper
Sacred
Sacred 2
The Witcher (I know Geralt looks human, but he isn't)
OddWorld: Abe's Oddessessy
OddWorld: Abe's Exodus
OddWorld: Munch's Oddessy
OddWorld: Stranger's Wrath
NeverWinter Nights 2
Starcraft
Warcraft I, II, and III
God of War (I know that he is technically a human being, but he no longer has any of his humanity)
God of War II
Jak and Daxter
Jak 2
Jak 3
Jak 4 (the racing one)
Daxter
...
...
I'll post again when i think of more...
Shoo!Indigo_Dingo said:
He was fun! Anti-Heroes are fun and pleseant to watch/play/read.
The Shrike from Hyperion novels, Tyrion from A Song of Ice and Fire, Alucard from Hellsing, Man with No Name from The Dollars Trilogy even Batman is an Anti-Hero.
You don't need to be sympathetic for Crypto, he was a wacky character in a wacky game.
Considering we are humans ourselves, it's logical that most games feature human protagonists because it's easier to identify with them and to play as a human fighting to defend humanity from an alien force. Those can easily be characterized as emotionless, cold killing machines, so the humans are "the good guys".
As mentioned by others, though, there are many, many exceptions to this rule. It seems to be mostly true in mainstream games, anyway.
So I don't see the problem.
As mentioned by others, though, there are many, many exceptions to this rule. It seems to be mostly true in mainstream games, anyway.
So I don't see the problem.
It's true that Fire Warrior didn't have a human protagonist, but there is a reason this game hasn't been a huge bestsellerKaiusCormere said:
it sucked
I, UH, KNEW THAT, I WAS JUST OBFUSCATING IGNORANCESakSak said:
Yeah, I haven't played a game of Warhammer in my life.
PS. Don't tell anyone.
Seriously, this is a stupid discussion. The point has already been disproved, enumerating through a huge list of games that break you rule is just a waste of effort.
Humans relate well to human main characters, even characters that are not human are anthropomorphized. Publishers like to make money therefore they have human protagonists.
Humans relate well to human main characters, even characters that are not human are anthropomorphized. Publishers like to make money therefore they have human protagonists.
Let's see, we have
Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2, plus expansions.
We have Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 plus expansions.
Plancescape: Torment if I remember correctly.
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magika
Alpha Centauri: Alien crossfire
Age of Wonders : Shadow Magic
Age of Wonders 2
Heroes of Might and Magic 1-5 plus expansions might qualify.
Sword of the Stars plus expansions
Master of Orion 1-3
Space Empires, at least 3-5.
Homeworld
Homeworld 2
Rogue-likes, such as Ancient Domains of Mystery (ADOM) and Nethack.
Sacred 2 at least, not sure about Sacred 1.
Diciples 1 and 2 I believe.
Demigod
Destroy All Humans
Dawn of War 1 plus expansions
Fire Warrior
Death gate
The Scrin campaing of Command and Conquer 3.
The Devil May Cry series
Sonic the Hedgehog (about a dozen games)
earthworm Jim
Jack Jazzrabbit two or three games.
Oddworld (all of them)
Starcraft
Warcrafts
That's about it from the top of my head. There are plenty more out there.
Neverwinter Nights 1 & 2, plus expansions.
We have Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 plus expansions.
Plancescape: Torment if I remember correctly.
Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magika
Alpha Centauri: Alien crossfire
Age of Wonders : Shadow Magic
Age of Wonders 2
Heroes of Might and Magic 1-5 plus expansions might qualify.
Sword of the Stars plus expansions
Master of Orion 1-3
Space Empires, at least 3-5.
Homeworld
Homeworld 2
Rogue-likes, such as Ancient Domains of Mystery (ADOM) and Nethack.
Sacred 2 at least, not sure about Sacred 1.
Diciples 1 and 2 I believe.
Demigod
Destroy All Humans
Dawn of War 1 plus expansions
Fire Warrior
Death gate
The Scrin campaing of Command and Conquer 3.
The Devil May Cry series
Sonic the Hedgehog (about a dozen games)
earthworm Jim
Jack Jazzrabbit two or three games.
Oddworld (all of them)
Starcraft
Warcrafts
That's about it from the top of my head. There are plenty more out there.
