Why are so many of you guys unemployed?

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Albino Boo

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DizzyChuggernaut said:
Yeah, I'm aware of this. I'm probably just frustrated that I put so much hard work into my degree and was told over and over again by lecturers how much it'd prepare me for employment. There's the stereotype that many students go to university to get drunk a lot on the government's dime which isn't entirely untrue. But I got so used to working long days on projects that I actually cared about and now the prospect of doing things that don't require my skills bothers me.

I checked your profile and you have a degree in games design. You chose a degree in which supply out strips demand, so its going to be incredibly hard to get job that uses your degree. It also quite specialised and most of the skills don't cross over into other areas. I think you need to be a little realistic and either go for something like graduate entry into the civil service or add some other qualifications to your CV. Perhaps something like a Prince2 project management course. Game design and project management is more employable than just game design.


sky14kemea said:
[HEADING=2]Because the economy is in shambles[/HEADING]

Okay maybe I can't speak for other countries but in the UK there are far more unemployed people than jobs, and a lot of people are being laid off because of budget cuts everywhere, which means even more unemployed people.

Even entry level jobs are being taken up by people with experience because for companies it's expensive to train someone right from the basics so they decide to go with whoever's done it before, even when it's not fair.

I just did a 6 week "Job Based Work Program" to get a job at the Royal Mail, and guess what? I might not even get a job now. Though that's more the fault of someone working at RM than the Job Center. So I'll let it slide on that one.
Odd that seeing for the last 26 months unemployment has been falling and the greatest number of people ever are currently working in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30913960
 

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albino boo said:
Odd that seeing for the last 26 months unemployment has been falling and the greatest number of people ever are currently working in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30913960
Oh awesome. I'll frame that and put it on my wall until I'm evicted for not being able to pay my rent because I'm still unemployed.
 

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I am a biology major, so my prospects are low when i graduate unless i go into the medical field. But graduate level education is expensive, so there is not much i can do for employment.
 

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Lazy university student. Generally socially inept.

Both of those things combined don't really work well for looking for or finding job prospects.
 

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albino boo said:
I checked your profile and you have a degree in games design. You chose a degree in which supply out strips demand, so its going to be incredibly hard to get job that uses your degree. It also quite specialised and most of the skills don't cross over into other areas. I think you need to be a little realistic and either go for something like graduate entry into the civil service or add some other qualifications to your CV. Perhaps something like a Prince2 project management course. Game design and project management is more employable than just game design.
Yeah I do kinda regret not doing an audio course to be honest. I did games design because it required a bunch of skills I had already been developing (graphics, animation, sound, design). I figured it'd allow me to present a more varied portfolio. Also in my naivete I got the impression that the games industry was rapidly expanding (but in recent years, things don't look quite as promising).

A careers advisor said that the degree and portfolio could overlap into other design fields but like you said, it might not come across that way to employers. I suppose what I really want is guidance because I have no idea what I'm doing and not living in the city doesn't do much to help that. Ahh, I wish I knew how motivation worked.

I should probably also point out that I don't expect anyone to present me a job on a platter. I just don't have a plan of action and the job centre and careers advisor didn't do much to point me in the right direction.
 

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sky14kemea said:
albino boo said:
Odd that seeing for the last 26 months unemployment has been falling and the greatest number of people ever are currently working in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30913960
Oh awesome. I'll frame that and put it on my wall until I'm evicted for not being able to pay my rent because I'm still unemployed.
This is the exact same feeling I keep getting whenever I tell people the US Economy is still in the toilet and the low unemployment figures are a load of bullshit since its still fucking difficult to find a job, and I mean even minimum wage jobs. I've been to hiring "fairs" where there were lines out the freakin' door like it was a nexgen console release with people who looked like they were literally camping overnight to be first in line.
I really really want to punch people in the face with a brick every time they tell me "everything's great! You must not be trying hard enough".
 

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As Tippy put, most people here seem to be around the ages of 18-24. That places a majority of people in college or just out of college. A good portion of college students don't really seem to work, so putting two and two together, you could get a rough concept. There are of course a few anomalies, but shit happens in life.

Moving on, tips for you OP. Find a job. Literally any job. See if they'll let you work weekends or like twenty hours a week and do that. If you stay at that job for the next two years, that will make your resume look a lot better. I have a lot of friends and college who just go to class, get drunk, and that's it. They'll have a much tougher time than my friend from work. Who grabbed a 40k a year job before he graduated, most likely with help that he was working two jobs while attending school.

sky14kemea said:
Sorry to hear that, Sky. Didn't realize you were in that dire financial straights. Hopefully something comes along soon, I'd miss your colorful avatars and cheerful demeanor if anything was to happen.

Edit: I put "I'll" like it was a sure thing... better change that.
 

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You didn't ask for it, but here's a piece of advice for you while you're an undergrad: Think good and hard about what you're majoring in and what kind of job you're hoping to turn that into (more importantly, think of what you're actually likely to turn that into). Then get an internship. Internships have been replacing entry-level jobs recently, and a lot of those actually require that you be an active undergraduate to qualify. Bear in mind, the idea is not to make a beeline for your dream job, it's getting you the experience that low level paid positions require of you.
 

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Elfgore said:
sky14kemea said:
Sorry to hear that, Sky. Didn't realize you were in that dire financial straights. Hopefully something comes along soon, I'll miss your colorful avatars and cheerful demeanor.
Ahhh it's alright. I always find a way through. I just save money by not ever turning the heating on.

In winter.

My cheerfulness hides my pain. :'D

[sub](But seriously thank you for the support. :] )[/sub]
 

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Just finished my EMT course, the state final was about a month ago. Still trying to get my license, need either physician sponsorship or complete a service affiliation application, but the service has to hire you before you can do the application.
Have applications in a bunch of places. Sounds like I just need to finalize some paperwork for two of the places, but it is in a volunteer capacity.
One would think EMT training would make one in demand right? life saving skills and all?
 

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Imperioratorex Caprae said:
This is the exact same feeling I keep getting whenever I tell people the US Economy is still in the toilet and the low unemployment figures are a load of bullshit since its still fucking difficult to find a job, and I mean even minimum wage jobs. I've been to hiring "fairs" where there were lines out the freakin' door like it was a nexgen console release with people who looked like they were literally camping overnight to be first in line.
I really really want to punch people in the face with a brick every time they tell me "everything's great! You must not be trying hard enough".
Oh man, job fairs.

I once went to a job fair that turned out to be for Apprenticeships (Which is like an internship). I still applied for some, and didn't even get any callbacks.

I've applied for Apprenticeships before and still been told they went with someone "with more experience".

I'm very bitter about that one, actually...
 

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sky14kemea said:
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
This is the exact same feeling I keep getting whenever I tell people the US Economy is still in the toilet and the low unemployment figures are a load of bullshit since its still fucking difficult to find a job, and I mean even minimum wage jobs. I've been to hiring "fairs" where there were lines out the freakin' door like it was a nexgen console release with people who looked like they were literally camping overnight to be first in line.
I really really want to punch people in the face with a brick every time they tell me "everything's great! You must not be trying hard enough".
Oh man, job fairs.

I once went to a job fair that turned out to be for Apprenticeships (Which is like an internship). I still applied for some, and didn't even get any callbacks.

I've applied for Apprenticeships before and still been told they went with someone "with more experience".

I'm very bitter about that one, actually...
I'm lucky that I have a small business doing PC repair/troubleshooting and some home networking stuff but I still need extra income since my business dropped off a ton in 2008 and hasn't picked up enough to meet the bills properly. So funny thing is that however many times I've applied for any PC Tech job (15 years experience over a multitude of fields) I've been rejected because I've either "not enough experience" (because apparently being a freelance self-taught contractor doesn't count) or I'm "overqualified" for the position. Both those reasons baffle the everloving crap out of me. Its like they don't actually want to hire a competent worker who knows their shit and has previously held an MCSE... of course they probably have no clue what an MCSE is or how insanely difficult it is to actually get one.
 

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Imperioratorex Caprae said:
I'm lucky that I have a small business doing PC repair/troubleshooting and some home networking stuff but I still need extra income since my business dropped off a ton in 2008 and hasn't picked up enough to meet the bills properly. So funny thing is that however many times I've applied for any PC Tech job (15 years experience over a multitude of fields) I've been rejected because I've either "not enough experience" (because apparently being a freelance self-taught contractor doesn't count) or I'm "overqualified" for the position. Both those reasons baffle the everloving crap out of me. Its like they don't actually want to hire a competent worker who knows their shit and has previously held an MCSE... of course they probably have no clue what an MCSE is or how insanely difficult it is to actually get one.
I hate that "overqualified" bullcrap too.

Surely having someone who knows too much is better than someone who doesn't know enough?!

I tried doing some animal-sitting in my neighborhood with posters to advertise but I barely got anything. I couldn't even count it as part time work because I had so little come in from it. Then I moved anyway so I had to abandon it.
 

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sky14kemea said:
I hate that "overqualified" bullcrap too.

Surely having someone who knows too much is better than someone who doesn't know enough?!

I tried doing some animal-sitting in my neighborhood with posters to advertise but I barely got anything. I couldn't even count it as part time work because I had so little come in from it. Then I moved anyway so I had to abandon it.
Funniest rejection I've ever had: I applied for a summer job at a Disney World waterpark in Orlando, FL. I was rejected because, despite being self-employed for 10 years with documentation and tax records to back it up, they told me they didn't hire people with consistent employment records if they weren't fresh out of high school. So running my own business is not considered "consistent employment"? What the hell dictionary do they use?
 

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I'm one of the lucky ones. Got offered an internship (that evolved into a full-time job) right out of college. I knew a guy, and that's usually what it comes down to more often than not.

Unfortunately there are not enough entry level jobs going around these days. I know a lot of people that are either unemployed or working retail because they have no other options right now.
 

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albino boo said:
sky14kemea said:
[HEADING=2]Because the economy is in shambles[/HEADING]

Okay maybe I can't speak for other countries but in the UK there are far more unemployed people than jobs, and a lot of people are being laid off because of budget cuts everywhere, which means even more unemployed people.

Even entry level jobs are being taken up by people with experience because for companies it's expensive to train someone right from the basics so they decide to go with whoever's done it before, even when it's not fair.

I just did a 6 week "Job Based Work Program" to get a job at the Royal Mail, and guess what? I might not even get a job now. Though that's more the fault of someone working at RM than the Job Center. So I'll let it slide on that one.
Odd that seeing for the last 26 months unemployment has been falling and the greatest number of people ever are currently working in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30913960
Um... That article actually says the number of jobless 16-24 year olds, which is presumably what the majority of people here are, is rising.
Shadow Work and Pensions Secretary Rachel Reeves said: "Today's fall in overall unemployment is welcome, but wages remain sluggish. Today's figures also show a worrying rise in youth unemployment. The government should bring in a compulsory jobs guarantee to get young people into work.
Unless I'm missing something, it also doesn't say that the greatest number of people ever are working in the UK, but even if that's true wouldn't it most likely just be because there's more people living in the UK full stop?

OT: Unemployment is a real problem at the moment, at least here in England, and I'm pretty sure it's the same in the US as well. It's especially a problem for young people looking for entry level jobs, which would be what the majority of people on this site are. Sorry if you weren't expecting this, but yeah, it's probably going to be really rough for you once you graduate.

I was looking for a job for the better part of a year after leaving education, and it really does start to get you down after a while. There's nothing more depressing than attending a pre-screening interview for a part time job at a pound-land. I was literally in competition with several other people to win the opportunity to be in competition with several more people to win a shit job that offered almost no hours at minimum wage. That was definitely the low point.

Then, literally the day after that I randomly got handed a full time job in an area I actually wanted to work in. So basically, the message I took from that is that it's all just completely random, so if you do struggle with finding work after you graduate don't let it get to you. It's probably not your fault, and as long as you keep trying you'll probably catch a break eventually.
 

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sky14kemea said:
albino boo said:
Odd that seeing for the last 26 months unemployment has been falling and the greatest number of people ever are currently working in the UK.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-30913960
Oh awesome. I'll frame that and put it on my wall until I'm evicted for not being able to pay my rent because I'm still unemployed.
I am standing up and giving you a slow clap for that cause that was amazing and how I feel too.

"Oh. so the figures are down too, are they? Well then, I can't wait to start that imaginary job Monday. Psht!!"

But don't worry, I just love when politicians go on about "There are jobs out there for everyone". BUUULLLLSHIT!!
 

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The problem in my area isn't so much unemployment, it's more underemployment.

I graduated from college back in '10 with a degree in Education and a degree in History. I wanted to be a middle school history teacher. I was overly optimistic about the employment opportunities post-graduation though. None of the schools around here are hiring. I tried to use my degrees to find a job at a museum, and had no luck there either.

I spent the first six months after graduation unemployed, before finally re-applying for my old high school job at Best Buy out of sheer frustration and desperation. So there I was, a guy in his early 20's with two degrees working part-time for minimum wage as a Media sales representative in a friggin' Best Buy store. At first it was humiliating, until I talked with some of my co-workers. Our entire computer department was staffed by 30-somethings and 40-somethings that had previously been working for companies like HP before being laid off, two of our sales associates in Digital Imaging had formerly been career employees at Canon, and we had a former Sony supervisor selling TVs. The number of underemployed individuals who were working at Best Buy as a last resort pretty much matched the number of high school kids that were there.

I no longer work there, but I'm still underemployed. I spent a year looking for jobs that would make use of my education and found nothing worthwhile in my state. I now work full-time in the office of a physical therapy clinic, primarily handling insurance issues and account billing. Definitely not what I went to school for. It's a good company that employs a lot of great people, and I've been treated very well by them these past three years, so I can't complain. It pays the bills, and it's a hell of a lot better than working retail.

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My primary issue seems to be the same as a lot of others in this topic: experience. I'm constantly being told that I lack experience. Problem is that I can't get experience if I'm never given the opportunity.

There was one time where I applied to a job at Brinks (the armored truck company), and I was rejected because the position required 7 years of consecutive employment with another company to even be considered. I have a friend who used to work for Brinks, and he laughed his ass off because, according to him, it's a job that could have been done by a toddler.

Another time I applied for a job in the Registrar's Office at Southern New Hampshire University. I aced all the interviews, shook hands with the managers, discussed salary, was given a start date, and issued my two-weeks notice to my current employer. I was going to be gaining around 10 hours of work per week, my salary was going to jump by around $50k per year, I was going to be getting a full benefits package including insurance, paid vacation/sick time, and even free Master-level courses at the university. It looked freaking' awesome. The Friday afternoon before my start date I was given a call to tell me that they'd found someone else with more experience, and I was no longer needed. The English language lacks profanity strong enough for how monumentally pissed off I was. I'm just happy my current employer is awesome, and was more than happy to keep me.
 

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Paradox SuXcess said:
I am standing up and giving you a slow clap for that cause that was amazing and how I feel too.

"Oh. so the figures are down too, are they? Well then, I can't wait to start that imaginary job Monday. Psht!!"

But don't worry, I just love when politicians go on about "There are jobs out there for everyone". BUUULLLLSHIT!!
"We've managed to get the number of unemployed below 2 million in the UK! Rejoice!"

Shame about the other 1.9 million of us though, isn't it.

And considering how populated other countries are, I can imagine it's just as bad if not worse overseas.

I get that it sounds positive but to people who've been unemployed a long time it doesn't really lift your spirits much.
Imperioratorex Caprae said:
Funniest rejection I've ever had: I applied for a summer job at a Disney World waterpark in Orlando, FL. I was rejected because, despite being self-employed for 10 years with documentation and tax records to back it up, they told me they didn't hire people with consistent employment records if they weren't fresh out of high school. So running my own business is not considered "consistent employment"? What the hell dictionary do they use?
What a bunch of crrrrrrrap.

Even just the thought of not hiring anyone without consistent work is shit, tbh, but the fact that you did have that and they decided it didn't count is ridiculous.