why are there no WW1 games?

[matnatz]

Hey, I wonna play a Trench-foot, dysentry and boredom rubbing game.

No, really, I've said it before and I'll say it again, WW1 would make a kickarse RTS. Give your self a big mustache, stand around a minature battlefield and start giving your orders. Sure, by the time the men get them they have been changed entirely and they probably won't follow them. But still, it'd be a cool game. Add a sim element, design your trench systems. Siege warfare works and it's not that different really.

 

[Chrinik]

An RTS would be perfect...imagine the amount of planning just to prepare for a single assault.
I mean, tactical positioning of MGs, artillery and trenchlines...

 

[AdmiralWolverineLightningbolt]

literally just because world war 1 wasnt a heroic victory period for america

 

[curlycrouton]

I can't remember the name of the battle, but a game version of it would go like this.

You fire idly across your trench at the enemy about 30 yards away, this has been going on for several weeks. A while passes and artillery begins to batter the enemy trenches, 6 days later the artillery clears, and now is your chance to take the enemy trench and make it all worth the hell so far!

But wait, what's this? Your commander is telling you to WALK through no-mans land or you'll be shot (As it's improper to run), suddenly the enemies machine guns are back on as you watch yourself get ripped to shreds along with all your nearby allies.

Credits roll saying 150,000 people or so died in that attack, the war dragged on for a few more years and your death was a pointless waste caused by incompetent command. You're also told that the enemy (A respectable sovereign nation much like your own) suffers so massively from their surrender terms that the war indirectly leads to the rise of the most evil power of modern times. Fighting this evil power also happens to destroy your own nations glorious empires rule, and paves the way for the previously isolationist crazies to replace you.

It doesn't quite have the punch of 'Kicking the evil nazi's ass! Fuck yeah!' WW2 had.

Call me crazy, but what you've just described could make an engaging and moving short game, like an indie game or something. It would never make a real game though, obviously.

 

[Agayek]

Haven't read more than the first page, so I apologize if the thread moved on to other topics.

WWI games don't exist for 2 reasons:

1) WWI warfare was very boring. Trenches, foxholes and mustard gas would be about all you could see.

2) Nobody really cares about WWI, at least in the US. We weren't the unstoppable heroes, posing heroically in the sunset every 15 seconds in that war, thus we've forgotten about it.

 

[Evertw]

Because trench warfare doesn't seem to interesting.

 

[matnatz]

Well, World War 1 wasn't as black and white either. Nither the Central Powers or the Triple Entente had any reason whatsoever to kill so many people.

 

[brodie21]

Canada was in both world wars for much longer than the US and gave just as much. They had an entire beach to themselves on D-day so before you start shouting about how the US gave its all, learn some facts. I agree america did suffer in the first world war, more than they should of as they had learned nothing from the 4 years of trench warfare that had gone before hand. The most important roll the US played in ww1 was supplying the allied powers with money and eqiupment, and crushing german morale when they finally got troops over.
And what the fuck is the "the US could steamroll you and you know it!!" got to do with anything? Are we now back to the school ground argument "My armys bigger than yours!!"?

i apologize for my earlier statement, i got carried away when someone declared that the
US wasnt in a war when it clearly was and americans died there. i never denied that canada did not participate in WWI, but whats this about normandy? this is about WWI. i neglected to mention canadian involvement in WWI because i did not know whether they did or not. as for other people who say that The Allies did not want nor need the US in both world wars, i would like to point out in WWI the US provided a vital manpower reserve that helped drive the germans back. their arrival may have hastened the end or even made it possible, im only speculating. in WWII, the US's manufacturing ability may have been the only way that the English could get back on their feet. they were under almost constant bombardment by the nazis and in africa their army was being slowly driven back. the united states provided many tanks and weapons to these troops well before pearl harbor, operation torch, and overlord. by the time the battle of normandy came around, there were many more us troops in france than english. and those english tankers were driving american made tanks firing american made shells running on american made gasoline. dont believe me? look it up.

 

[Pandalisk]

A better question is why arent there any Korean war games? Or for that matter there should be a game set during the "troubles" of ireland and england, it could be like a splinter cell meets COD4.

Ah that sounds lime a great idea, But who would you play as? IRA or british troops?, that line is a bit more shady than Allies Vs Axis

 

[johnman]

Canada was in both world wars for much longer than the US and gave just as much. They had an entire beach to themselves on D-day so before you start shouting about how the US gave its all, learn some facts. I agree america did suffer in the first world war, more than they should of as they had learned nothing from the 4 years of trench warfare that had gone before hand. The most important roll the US played in ww1 was supplying the allied powers with money and eqiupment, and crushing german morale when they finally got troops over.
And what the fuck is the "the US could steamroll you and you know it!!" got to do with anything? Are we now back to the school ground argument "My armys bigger than yours!!"?

i apologize for my earlier statement, i got carried away when someone declared that the
US wasnt in a war when it clearly was and americans died there. i never denied that canada did not participate in WWI, but whats this about normandy? this is about WWI. i neglected to mention canadian involvement in WWI because i did not know whether they did or not. as for other people who say that The Allies did not want nor need the US in both world wars, i would like to point out in WWI the US provided a vital manpower reserve that helped drive the germans back. their arrival may have hastened the end or even made it possible, im only speculating. in WWII, the US's manufacturing ability may have been the only way that the English could get back on their feet. they were under almost constant bombardment by the nazis and in africa their army was being slowly driven back. the united states provided many tanks and weapons to these troops well before pearl harbor, operation torch, and overlord. by the time the battle of normandy came around, there were many more us troops in france than english. and those english tankers were driving american made tanks firing american made shells running on american made gasoline. dont believe me? look it up.

Oh i belive every word your saying. Even when the Us was not formally at war with the Axis they were turning the cogs. Britain would of been defeated or been frced to sign a peace deal if the US had not interveaned.

When you said what do you Canadians know about war D-day was the first example that sprung to mind. During WW1 every memeber of the British empire sent troops to theatres across the world. The canadians severed on the western front thoughout the war, along wiht Afircan and Indian troops. The Austrilain and New Zealanders bore the brunt of Galipoli (susce my spelling)

 

[0110100110]

Its a great idea, but the game would be about half an hour.

 

[0110100110]

I agree, COMPLETELY.

 

[brodie21]

Canada was in both world wars for much longer than the US and gave just as much. They had an entire beach to themselves on D-day so before you start shouting about how the US gave its all, learn some facts. I agree america did suffer in the first world war, more than they should of as they had learned nothing from the 4 years of trench warfare that had gone before hand. The most important roll the US played in ww1 was supplying the allied powers with money and eqiupment, and crushing german morale when they finally got troops over.
And what the fuck is the "the US could steamroll you and you know it!!" got to do with anything? Are we now back to the school ground argument "My armys bigger than yours!!"?

i apologize for my earlier statement, i got carried away when someone declared that the
US wasnt in a war when it clearly was and americans died there. i never denied that canada did not participate in WWI, but whats this about normandy? this is about WWI. i neglected to mention canadian involvement in WWI because i did not know whether they did or not. as for other people who say that The Allies did not want nor need the US in both world wars, i would like to point out in WWI the US provided a vital manpower reserve that helped drive the germans back. their arrival may have hastened the end or even made it possible, im only speculating. in WWII, the US's manufacturing ability may have been the only way that the English could get back on their feet. they were under almost constant bombardment by the nazis and in africa their army was being slowly driven back. the united states provided many tanks and weapons to these troops well before pearl harbor, operation torch, and overlord. by the time the battle of normandy came around, there were many more us troops in france than english. and those english tankers were driving american made tanks firing american made shells running on american made gasoline. dont believe me? look it up.

Oh i belive every word your saying. Even when the Us was not formally at war with the Axis they were turning the cogs. Britain would of been defeated or been frced to sign a peace deal if the US had not interveaned.

When you said what do you Canadians know about war D-day was the first example that sprung to mind. During WW1 every memeber of the British empire sent troops to theatres across the world. The canadians severed on the western front thoughout the war, along wiht Afircan and Indian troops. The Austrilain and New Zealanders bore the brunt of Galipoli (susce my spelling)

i wasnt denying that the canadians fought in a war, unlike that other guy. and i didnt say that the us was turning the cogs of the war, merely supplying its allies. how about you turn the predjudice machine off for a second and stop misunderstanding me.

 

[ygetoff]

there were other parts to the war than just trenches though. it's not like the entire thing was solely fought in trenches.

There are a few of them, but it's a war most people would rather forget about.

and why do people want to forget that when there were so many more atrocities in WW2?

Because World War 1 was started pretty much by accident (as in, after Franz Ferdinand was killed, most of Europe started preparing for war, as they all had alliances with each other, so when Germany invaded Belgium to break the stalemate, it could have been easily prevented by a bit of diplomacy).

 

[Xelanath]

there should be a game set during the "troubles" of ireland and england, it could be like a splinter cell meets COD4.

I think you might have legions of protesters to a game like that, considering those "troubles" are still around. And it's the United Kingdom/Great Britain, depending on what you're referring to, not England.


On a side-note: it's good to see that pop history is still going strong.

 

[Xelanath]

Last but not least I never said that the Japanese would invade America... I said they would more than likely take Australia, probably make big inroads in India, and possibly send troops to Western Canada though I suspect that is unlikely.

You're right, that was never on the table for Japan.

 

[Zedzero]

Pass History Class and then you will understand.

 

[Simalacrum]

I don't think developers know how to do it really... who knows, maybe a future Assassins Creed will do it some point in the future, since they seem to like to draw influence from times un-used in video games before (i've never seen another game set during the crusades or the rennaisance)... there is one browser game called Warfare 1917, which has proved itself to be rather popular, but thats about it for WWI games as far as i can tell