why are there no WW1 games?

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ww2jacob

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Very first game I played was the original Red Baron on MS DOS, a biplane flight sim.

Sadly I haven't found a good WWI game since. Agreed that an RTS set in this time would be very fun. Particularly if done in a stratego-tactical style like the total war series.
 

The Tommy

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Howitttzer said:
What I personally think would work far better than a WWI game (a conflict which, most people seem to agree, doesn't seem to translate well to the third or first person shooter, or RTS genres), would be a game set during the Russian Revolution and Civil War (1917-1923, a similar period).

While it might be necessary to have our hypothetical hero be betrayed by his Communist superiors, due to the Soviet Unions errr... image in the western world -there is such a wealth of material, that if you were set on doing a game in this period, I think the Russian Revolution would be the logical choice.

Just off the top of my head, our game could begin with a bit of backstory on our character- maybe he could have been one of Rasputin's assassins? And have gone on to nurture revolt in the capitol? Which would then transition nicely into the butchery that the Tsar unleashed on the protestors in Petrograd, in the final days of his rule- heck, you could even make it a tutorial if you liked- fighting back soldiers and mounted Cossacks with big fuzzy hats.

From there, maybe to the Kornilov revolt- give us a little cutscene about being imprisoned when the new government came to power for the deaths of those men, and then let us loose again from the prison, along with all the rest, with a rifle and a big old pistol to prevent the General and his men from succeeding in their coup...

And on and on- to Petrograd in October to fight through the streets and capture key buildings- the armory, the communications buildings, ect- and finally an assault on and through the Winter palace (I know, this part was nearly bloodless, but hey, artistic license is available when making a game...).

Then next, across the Russian tundra by train in winter, to capture the Ukraine and fight against the counter-revolutionary White army- and so on and so forth, maybe to our dramatic betrayal, and turnaround.

Anyway, what I'm trying to get at is that not only is there lots of very dramatic material, and some very varied locations and scenery, but there is no trench warfare! We've got house to house, through cities, palaces, and across the Russian plains (into the mountains even, if you like)- but all of this would mesh much better with the style of shooter people have grown used to: fast paced, lots of movement, and some cover, if our hypothetical dev were to take it in that direction, than trench warfare would.

(And hey, some of those locations would be pretty cool- I'd rather poke my rifle aroud a banister in the winter palace and have someone try to blow my head off than fight through muddy, mortar-shelled-plain + hill #23.)

A nice idea that holds lots of potential. I particularly like the back story and the settings you could create. I must admit I rather play a White soldier than a Red. Interestingly, the game could put you in the shoes of some of the Allied expeditionary soldiers sent to assist the Romanov dynasty.

The only thing you failed to consider is that people like dark depressing scary settings. This is the basis for horror games and other successful shooters that have you running through loads of inhospitable environments. And as stated before MANY times, the war on the Western Front had a variety of battlefield landscapes. The most typical battlefield people relate or think of is Passchendaele or more accurately Third Ypres. While many battlefields take on the characteristic of having been greatly scared by shelling, not ALL battles were fought in the trenches and on desolated farm fields and woods.

Shoot and scoot tactics and light machine guns were all present in WWI and frankly, the tactics of the Russian Revolution would hardly be different (if anything less) sophisticated and interesting as combat on the Western Front in late 1917-1918.
 

Bamboochakill

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JUST GOT GOOD NEWS, A MOD TEAM HAS JUST STARTED TO MAKE A WW1 MOD FOR GTA 4(actually...) AND IT WOULD BE FINISHED SOMETIME IN 2010, AND THEY HOPE TO GET THE DEMO OUT TO 24 DECEMBER 2009, A NICE PRESENT XD
 

Bamboochakill

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I've joined the mod team (i know them), and have been asked to make the homepage for this mod, and of course, i said yes.
 

The Tommy

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Major Tom said:
hamsterlord20 said:
joe51498 said:
because all the wepons would suck
um, something I just want to mention on this topic. Despite most of these weapons were slow reloading and unreliable, one shot of these at a close range could leave fist sized holes in people. For those hungering a gory war game, they would probabbly really enjoy a WW1 game.
I.....I am going to quote myself.

Most of the weapons in service in WWI saw service in WWII. Most gamers would already be very familiar with all these guns and their capabilites.
The standard infantry rifles used by the British, the Germans, the Japanese, the Russians and 9 out of 10 countries you care to name in WWII were essentially the same infantry rifles used by the British, the Germans, the Japanese, the Russians and 9 out 10 countries you care to name in WWI.
Perhpas the only gun from WWI not to make it to WWII was the French CSRG Mle 1915 Chauchat, though that does hold the dubious honour of the Worst Machinegun Ever Designed.
I would agree you would not want that in your arsenal. Cheap metals and production plus the cut out magazine.

WWI GTA mod? Sounds amazing!
 

suhlEap

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well that does sound interesting, i'm not sure how it'll pan out though. i mean, a grand theft auto war game might not work. i guess we'll just have to wait til it comes out.
 

suhlEap

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Bamboochakill said:
but a F****** GOOD ww1 MOVIE TO WATCH WHILE U WAIT: Passchendaele
can't say i've heard of that one. what's it about? well WW1 obviously but still.
 

AirACE

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Passchendaele is a war/romance movie about 3rd Ypres (one of the bloodiest battles of the war and history for the matter)
I personally prefer The Lost Battalion (the 2001 remake). It is the best war movie since Saving Private Ryan.
 

Taerdin

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Why is this thread still happening?!

There are WW1 games, plenty of them.

There will likely be more...

That is all
 

HyenaThePirate

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Taerdin said:
Why is this thread still happening?!

There are WW1 games, plenty of them.

There will likely be more...

That is all
Really?? Which ones, and WHERE?
Are you talking about Snoopy Vs. The Red Baron? I dont think that technically counts...
 

Asickorphan

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Not much variation and yeah the whole time in the real war you would be in a trench taking cover! And how many guns would there be, like 4 it doesn't make sense to do it!