why are weapons still legal in america?

[vampirekid.13]

"Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791.
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

so basically, it says people have the right to bear arms because a militia is needed.

well, a militia is MOST DEFINATELY NOT needed anymore. we have the army and the national guard, and police.

so why havent guns been made illegal yet? (w/ exception of hunting rifles)

i dont get it, its like people just like seeing more homocides...

 

[Captain Picard]

Do you actually live in the U.S.A.? Furthermore, there may not be a need for a militia right now, but no one knows for certain what the future holds. In the event that a militia is needed, I'd much rather have a healthy gun industry, rather than an anemic one which couldn't meet production demand in a time of crisis.

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

 

[razer17]

i'll be honest, this won't end well for you.

 

[GodsOneMistake]

LOL good luck getting the guns taken away. XD Makes me laugh just thinking about the poor soul who even attempts this

EDIT: one more thing, do you think that outlawing guns will stop homicides? You do realize plenty of people died before guns were invented, in an even more brutal action.

So when you look at it from my point of view it goes like this. Kill someone quickly with a bullet to the head or heart. or kill somebody in a much more painful fashion with other means..

EDIT2: you live in Hawaii anyway what do you care. How many people get shot in fucking Hawaii

 

[Musicfreak]

You may have faith in the government to do the wrong thing but I don't. I could get in to a long argument about how making something illegal only takes it out of the hands of law abiding citizens and how banning guns is only a quick fix that gets you nowhere in the long run but I feel like I've argued this topic far to often to people who are already set in stone with their ideals.

 

[brodie21]

because of the second amendment, it also says the right to bear arms. if we were to get rid of that amendment, then what would stop us from getting rid of, say the first, or the amendment outlawing slavery?

 

[vampirekid.13]

Do you actually live in the U.S.A.? Furthermore, there may not be a need for a militia right now, but no one knows for certain what the future holds. In the event that a militia is needed, I'd much rather have a healthy gun industry, rather than an anemic one which couldn't meet production demand in a time of crisis.

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

sorry, only potential criminals have fire arms to begin with, and it would be easily enforced, god knows 3rd world countries can enforce the law to the point where almost no one has a gun im sure america could do it too.

yes i live in america, and im in the military. guns have no place in civilian hands.

if at any point we go back to needing a "militia" you might as well move out of the country, because that means the army, national guard, marines, navy, and police is all dead.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Do you actually live in the U.S.A.? Furthermore, there may not be a need for a militia right now, but no one knows for certain what the future holds. In the event that a militia is needed, I'd much rather have a healthy gun industry, rather than an anemic one which couldn't meet production demand in a time of crisis.

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

Honest people can still make mistakes. Honest people get scared. Honest people can still kill by accident.

As for the militia argument, it's a mix of 'fair enough' and 'outdated way of thinking'. More on that in a bit, I'll edit it in.

EDIT: Damn, the OP posted again and pretty much posted what I thought. Exactly, there should be no need for a militia if the military exists. Militia would be fine if the military was lacking and the US had no allies, but the military is expansive and the US have many allies, one of them being the U.K. who hold the S.A.S. and the second largest navy in the world. Militias aren't needed in this day and age, when you have allies and a solid military.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

I never get tired of hearing that excuse. So... not true.

Still, yeah, firearms are pretty much not needed at this point, and all the stupid conspiracy theorists can *censored*.

 

[Jark212]

Because if the people don't have guns, only the government will...

 

[Lukeydoodly]

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

Quite right sir.

 

[Hazy]

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

This nailed it, sort of. I don't think that it will "Keep them out of the hands" of the innocents, it will just make it harder for them to get the said firearms.
And OP, I'd like you to check something out. It's an episode of 30 Days titled "Gun Nation."
I won't link it, for fear of mod wrath. But you can find it easily enough.

 

[vampirekid.13]

because of the second amendment, it also says the right to bear arms. if we were to get rid of that amendment, then what would stop us from getting rid of, say the first, or the amendment outlawing slavery?

that is not even an argument...

we got rid of plenty of other things from the constitution before. and we added ammendments that canceled stuff in it. we outlawed slavery. which was a pretty big thing back then, how do you think they felt "oh well if you outlaw this, what will keep you away from outlawing XXXXX" im sure they felt the same way, but we dealt w/ it.

 

[vampirekid.13]

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

This nailed it.
I'd like you to check something out, OP. It's an episode of 30 Days titled "Gun Nation."

i would like you to check something out too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARMoJ-9G68k

 

[TheZapper]

I don't know too much about the whole guns situation in america, but I do know that making them illegal now won't have a great effect on anything.

 

[firedfns13]

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

This. along with what Jark said about, "Because if the people don't have guns, only the government will..."

 

[Destal]

Do you actually live in the U.S.A.? Furthermore, there may not be a need for a militia right now, but no one knows for certain what the future holds. In the event that a militia is needed, I'd much rather have a healthy gun industry, rather than an anemic one which couldn't meet production demand in a time of crisis.

Oh, and making firearms illegal only keeps them out of the hands of honest people. Criminals don't give a damn about such laws.

sorry, only potential criminals have fire arms to begin with, and it would be easily enforced, god knows 3rd world countries can enforce the law to the point where almost no one has a gun im sure america could do it too.

yes i live in america, and im in the military. guns have no place in civilian hands.

if at any point we go back to needing a "militia" you might as well move out of the country, because that means the army, national guard, marines, navy, and police is all dead.

No, 3rd world contries probably have more guns than anyone. Have you seen any pictures or ever been to a 3rd world country? They are all walking around with AK-47's. Plus like a few people have said, laws only keep weapons out of law abiding citizens hands. Crimanels for some odd and crazy reason just don't seem to car about laws. The amount of accidental deaths by firearms is a rediculusly small number, if you have to make that arguement, how about we outlaw cars?

EDIT: Oh, wait...I just figured it out.

This has to be a troll.