Why aren't hats allowed in schools?

[SL33TBL1ND]

What? Like every school in Aus requires you to wear a hat to prevent sunburn. What the fuck are your schools on?

Their on "Not living in Australia"

It's a respect thing and it really isn't that important. You can wear a hat around your own house if you want so why does it matter so much that you're asked not too at school? Oh right, teen rebel spirit and all that.

Whatever, not an issue for me anymore XD

I don't see how not wearing a hat indoors is a respect thing, hell that rule is weird, but fine. But if people are outside during lunch or whatever, they should be allowed to wear hats all they want, it's a health issue, no matter where you live.

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I was about to rhetorically ask how likely a school shooting was, then realised you live in the fucked up land of the USA. That still isn't a reason to prevent hats, how would a hat prevent identification, it's not a fucking balaclava.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

Because Gabe wants them all for Team Fortress 2.

 

[StBishop]

So. Much. Ninjaing.

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I honestly didn't know it was a sign of respect. I've been to plenty of houses without taking my hat off and no one commented, or even looked at me funny (and it's not just other kids I'm talking about). The only thing I can think of is because I live in the South, and people around here like hats. Probably not it though. Anyway, all of those other things seem natural to me - society never trained me to take my hat off, therefore I won't (or don't want to) do it. Same deal with gum (I was under the impression that teachers/schools don't like gum because most people just stick it under the desk, which I consider far more rude than anything you have described).

For at least 12 years I didn't make eye contact, I sort of just looked at people's mouths. Nothing to do with hats. Guess I'm just an exception to the rule? Still, it's not hard to push the brim of your hat up when talking to someone.

Outside I can wear my hat. Technically, I'm not supposed to do it on school property, but no one actually gives a damn about it outside. I've even talked to the principal while wearing my hat once. I think. Still, at most three teachers/admins would actually say "Take off your hat" if I was outside.

It may be a cultural thing. I was raised by Brits.

I have seen people wear hats indoors. You know those guys who always wear their hat. Those guys. But they take it off when meeting a person's parents or when in trouble or any other time when you'd normally be trying to seem polite and avoid being rude.
The times I've seen those guys wear hats indoors is like when you've got a bunch of mates over watching a movie, or playing games, or if you're chilling out in your own room, but yeah, it's not really common to wear hats indoors in my experience.
We even had a hat stand next to the door.

My dad use to wear a hat[footnote]An Akubra[/footnote] all the time on weekends, but he always took it off when coming in the house, he'd leave his boots at the door and his hat on the rack.

The chewing gum thing is due to sticking it under desks too, but say for example I got pulled over by a copper and was chewing gum, I'd spit it out before talking to them.

Also, that's awesome that you push up the brim of your hat. I've never seen anyone do that IRL. It'd be cool.

 

[Ruwrak]

Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.

This, mostly. Or as the saying in my country goes "Equal monks, equal hoods" and by equal hoods I mean no hoods or headcovers at all |3

 

[Addendum_Forthcoming]

Whenever I see people wearing hats indoors I'm thinking that they ...;

1: Feel the incessant need to have an additional inch or two on the people they talk to.
2: Aren't exceptionally clever. (Hat wearers in enclosed vehicles. Really? Car drivers are bad enough without the need of yet *another* thing that will provide a distraction.)
3: Are bald(ing) and so very depressed about it.

I'm going to say '1' on your list is enough to enforce early attitudes of politeness. It *is* rude to wear a hat indoors. If you don't like it, get a fascinator. Though I doubt that will serve you so well in a school environment.

You know why teachers enforce all these little rules?

Because parents expect teachers and school institutions to rear their kids for them and teach them civil conduct and proper social skills to boot. You know, rather than a history teacher who teaches history, oh no. Parents aren't getting enough value for their tax there, Heaven forbid if parents were to actually teach their kids proper manners and civil conduct.

So, given that teachers now need to teach etiquette and basic social skills... what strikes you as strange about them simply saying "No hats in class"?

Also, may I remind you that you're in the company of someone who (on average) has spent 5 years in university and should be seen as a professional who deserves respect from all stratum of society. A quintessential role and duty. Every observance of civil discourse between student and teacher should be enforced, even if parents don't see such needs.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

They tried to do that in my 6th form many years ago, something about "intruders" being likely to wear hats or some crap. Before the attempted hat ban there were maybe about 10 or 20 people in a year of 200 that wore hats, it at least tripled after that for a few weeks, nearly half the year decided to come in wearing hats. I petered off a bit after that but still above pre "ban" levels. That's what happens when you tell a bunch of 16-18 year olds in a selective school not to do something.

 

[IamQ]

I agree that it's silly. That's why I love my high school (Or "gymnasium" in Swedish, sort of like a high school, but only three years). Here we can have hats on, we can chew gum, even eat crisps during lessons. Hell, once we were going to see a documentary about Chernobyl and I brought in my lunch from the cafeteria, no questions asked. There's nothing like seeing a nuclear power plant explode while eating lasagna.

 

[Tourmeta]

It's allowed here. Funny how they said 'men' in that post of yours.

 

[Abedeus]

This is weird. My school has no such law. Of course, I got yelled at once for wearing a hat in elementary school (because I had a scar on my nose and I had to keep it in shade 24/7 to help it heal faster), because "it insulted the eagle on our flag" or some bullshit like that (I live in Poland, we have a white eagle on most of the flags in public buildings).

However, I quite often see people wearing hats in my high school. Not every day, and not everyone, but besides having to take them off and hang on a hook by the desk (where you usually hang bags), there is no problem in wearing hats during recess. Hell, on the day we were taking school pictures, we decided to dress ourselves up like for a costume party. Almost everyone wore some kind of headgear (from monk hats, crowns and jester caps through Russian officer hats ending with Slash's hat). There were no problems with this at all.


But during class, I think it would just obstruct the view of the blackboard. More of an annoyance than being illegal.

 

[rukastar]

I'd like to think my school is pretty laid back also, I mean we wear hats as much as we want. However, we can't eat or drink anything in class since too many students last year were drinking vodka disguised as water -_-

I'm in high school, btw.

 

[Sexy Devil]

Weird, my school didn't call me out for wearing a top hat for like a week after I bought it.

 

[Queen Michael]

Hats are considered impolite because you always put your hat on when you're going to leave. To keep your hat on is to amek sure you can leave quicker. Not a very good reason, just trying to answer your question.

 

[Nudu]

What gang do you represent if you're wearing a top hat?

 

[Pat8u]

thier not? really... they are in my school

 

[Pat8u]

Because it's easier. If everyone just doesn't wear one, it's all that less hat-related shit the staff has to deal with. And any amount of hat-related shit greater than zero is too much when there's an easy solution.

that logic is flawed because people will disobey

 

[TheBelgianGuy]

I agree that it's silly. That's why I love my high school (Or "gymnasium" in Swedish, sort of like a high school, but only three years). Here we can have hats on, we can chew gum, even eat crisps during lessons. Hell, once we were going to see a documentary about Chernobyl and I brought in my lunch from the cafeteria, no questions asked. There's nothing like seeing a nuclear power plant explode while eating lasagna.

Cool, so it's a school where they don't teach students to be polite or have manners?

 

[Smertnik]

Because it's impolite.

 

[OManoghue]

It depends on the school I think, cuz I've been wearing a hat to school for nearly 3 years and I'm 20.

 

[Zay-el]

Taking you hat off when you walk into a building has been a custom for hundreds of years. It's not a harmful custom, it's not an annoying one, it doesn't hinder you in any way, so out of all the things one can find to complain about school, why is this the most important? Sure, it might be amusing to wear a top hat to class, but in the end, what purpose does it serve? NOTHING.

Hats were made to protect your head from whatever and only gained stylistic importance later Indoors, there is simply no need for it.

 

[Shakomaru]

It's OBVIOUSLY because they know what hats do to people.