Why can't I have fun?

[RaikuFA]

It's something that I've been asking myself for a bit. Whether it was me trying out fighters for the first time or playing Magic or tabletop RPG back in high school, I was not allowed to have fun. I'm always the whipping boy, being the one that others made sure was the first to go or at least made sure I was to suffer.

Earlier this year, I got King of Fighters 13 to try fighters one more time after getting threats on SF4 for losing. Well I didn't know how to do some thing in the tutorial with cancel in its name so I went on Shoryuken for help on it and was met with just insults of "scrub", "noob" and the like to where I just sold it back online.

Magic, well it was basically "gang up the guy who sucks then make fun of him for losing." I never got any good pulls from packs. Just recently I went to a FNM event and was avoided like the freakin plague.

Tabletop RPGs has the same thing with the DM just going "Rocks fall, you die yet everyone else lives."

I just don't know what the fuck is wrong with me. I thought games were supposed to be about having fun not bully the freak.

 

[Samantha Burt]

I have had very similar problems in the past. I had the exact same issue with KoF13 (which I too sold), so don't feel too bad about that. The thing to remember is that people will be a dick to you because they can. People pick on those worse than them, so they can feel better; and better than them, because they feel threatened.

I'd say fight through it, but that's cliché and a waste of time usually. I'd suggest finding a couple of inexperienced friends and playing with them, trying to improve, but having a good time as you laugh WITH each other about silly mistakes. Hope that helps ^^;

 

[Batou667]

- Fighting games: these tend to be very elitist. I gave up on SSF4 because you need to study it like a part-time job just to be competitive online. Screw that.

- MTG: can't really comment on this one. I suppose my advice would be to find a regular group to play with, or maybe get some friends into it.

- Roleplaying: Hmm, you could just have a douchey DM. Or - you could be "that guy". In most gaming circles there's always one guy who takes things too far, laughs too loud, derails serious roleplays by being LOL RANDUMB or sours light-hearted roleplay by raping and murdering all the NPCs. After a while, if everybody's sick of "that guy", it's not unheard of for the DM to kill off the PC - either because it was a stupid PC in the first place ("So, this campaign is a realistic medieval setting-" "MY CHARACTER IS GOKU LOLZ") or because they want the player himself to leave.

This is an unpleasant thought, but... have you considered that there might be something you're doing to put people off? Of course, a good gaming group or circle of friends would give you a hint if you were being obnoxious, or spoiling their fun, or just plain ol' smelt bad. But even the most obvious hints can be difficult to recognise at times.

Talk to your gaming group (preferably the DM first, then the others if need be) and straight-out ask them if there's anything you could be doing to help everybody have more fun. If they're a bunch of jerks, find a new gaming group. Ditto with the videogames and Magic; find new communities where you're more welcome.

 

[RaikuFA]

I don't have friends though. I thought I did in high school but with what happened in Magic and DnD, I guess I didn't. I tried recently with FNM but no one would talk to me and just ignore me.

- Roleplaying: Hmm, you could just have a douchey DM. Or - you could be "that guy". In most gaming circles there's always one guy who takes things too far, laughs too loud, derails serious roleplays by being LOL RANDUMB or sours light-hearted roleplay by raping and murdering all the NPCs. After a while, if everybody's sick of "that guy", it's not unheard of for the DM to kill off the PC - either because it was a stupid PC in the first place ("So, this campaign is a realistic medieval setting-" "MY CHARACTER IS GOKU LOLZ") or because they want the player himself to leave.

This is an unpleasant thought, but... have you considered that there might be something you're doing to put people off? Of course, a good gaming group or circle of friends would give you a hint if you were being obnoxious, or spoiling their fun, or just plain ol' smelt bad. But even the most obvious hints can be difficult to recognise at times.

Not that I know of, it was basically:

DM: OK, you encounter a group of hostile Goblins.

Me: I go towards the goblins for attacking.

DM: OK, rocks fall, only you die. Get out of here.

 

[RaikuFA]

I don't have friends though. I thought I did in high school but with what happened in Magic and DnD, I guess I didn't. I tried recently with FNM but no one would talk to me and just ignore me.

- Roleplaying: Hmm, you could just have a douchey DM. Or - you could be "that guy". In most gaming circles there's always one guy who takes things too far, laughs too loud, derails serious roleplays by being LOL RANDUMB or sours light-hearted roleplay by raping and murdering all the NPCs. After a while, if everybody's sick of "that guy", it's not unheard of for the DM to kill off the PC - either because it was a stupid PC in the first place ("So, this campaign is a realistic medieval setting-" "MY CHARACTER IS GOKU LOLZ") or because they want the player himself to leave.

This is an unpleasant thought, but... have you considered that there might be something you're doing to put people off? Of course, a good gaming group or circle of friends would give you a hint if you were being obnoxious, or spoiling their fun, or just plain ol' smelt bad. But even the most obvious hints can be difficult to recognise at times.

Not that I know of, it was basically:

DM: OK, you encounter a group of hostile Goblins.

Me: I go towards the goblins for attacking.

DM: OK, rocks fall, only you die. Get out of here.

You should make some friends here then. This forum has a lot of great people in it. Because people like that are not the types of people who make you feel good when you play a game with them. There are a lot of nice, sensible gamers here who just like to play and have fun, rather then win or 'blame others'.

You could start here. [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/Magic-The-Gathering]

I hope this helps!

I joined and wrote something but nothing happened. Then again, it seems the last post was in Aug.

 

[toadking07]

It's tough because what you described is bullying but it's the "excepted" kind like trash talking online or hazing the new guy. Really it's not ok and you shouldn't put up with it. People who take games too seriously, or only have fun when they are ruining someone else's experience aren't worth playing with.

My only thoughts are that you should find other games or groups that are more accepting of new players and help out those with lower skills. Sometimes that means avoiding certain games entirely, sometimes it just means finding a better guild!

 

[RaikuFA]

I really appreciate the help guys. I do have other other issue with it though.

The place where I did FNM? Thats the only place that sells gaming stuff. New Jersey apparently frowns upon Mom and Pop places.

 

[Substitute Troll]

I think you'll need a thicker skin if you're going to participate in competitive gaming, of any kind. Being able to handle dishonesty or unsportsmanship (dis-sportsmanship?) is a part of that. I think you're better off trying to play something that's more single player oriented.

 

[Rastien]

Okay the super street fighter 4 community is HORRENDUS. No 2 ways about this, the best way to get better at ssf4 i have found is get a sparring partner and kick 7 shades of hell out of each-other for some time (i have 500 hours of ssf4 clocked and i'm still pretty weak).

If you're looking to get properly into ssf4 add me on steam it's in my profile i'm happy to go through some basics to get you going. There are ALOT of aspects to ssf4 there is alot of depth to it and i'm not amazing but c+ rank cody/bison/dan online.

On the magic front i wouldn't advise jumping into FNM from the get go. FNM is a competetive format and you will have people running £300+ decks. Look for the casual magic nights and try and get talking to people and ask them to take a look at your deck and advise what you can do to improve it. Also be prepared to loose alot, i mean ALOT at mtg it takes ages before you get your first win don't get down hearted. Drafting is also one of the hardest formats to do well in as a new player you have no idea of the value of cards etc. Same with limited you will get the hang of it but you're best off trying to go a casual evening first if they are avaible.

Role play not my thing never done it i like the competitive side of gaming, unfortuntley if you like competive gaming you gotta deal with alot of bum holes and it's not always fun just stick with it. Trust me when you get that first crushing victory over an opponent it will be worth it.

But yeah MTG and SSF4 are HIGHLY competitive games and you're gonna get dicks, just gotta grit your teeth and bear with it. Try to find someone who will help you out,i haven't played MTG in about a year so i can't properly advise you current competitive standard decks.

 

[RaikuFA]

Okay the super street fighter 4 community is HORRENDUS. No 2 ways about this, the best way to get better at ssf4 i have found is get a sparring partner and kick 7 shades of hell out of each-other for some time (i have 500 hours of ssf4 clocked and i'm still pretty weak).

If you're looking to get properly into ssf4 add me on steam it's in my profile i'm happy to go through some basics to get you going. There are ALOT of aspects to ssf4 there is alot of depth to it and i'm not amazing but c+ rank cody/bison/dan online.

On the magic front i wouldn't advise jumping into FNM from the get go. FNM is a competetive format and you will have people running £300+ decks. Look for the casual magic nights and try and get talking to people and ask them to take a look at your deck and advise what you can do to improve it. Also be prepared to loose alot, i mean ALOT at mtg it takes ages before you get your first win don't get down hearted. Drafting is also one of the hardest formats to do well in as a new player you have no idea of the value of cards etc. Same with limited you will get the hang of it but you're best off trying to go a casual evening first if they are avaible.

Role play not my thing never done it i like the competitive side of gaming, unfortuntley if you like competive gaming you gotta deal with alot of bum holes and it's not always fun just stick with it. Trust me when you get that first crushing victory over an opponent it will be worth it.

But yeah MTG and SSF4 are HIGHLY competitive games and you're gonna get dicks, just gotta grit your teeth and bear with it. Try to find someone who will help you out,i haven't played MTG in about a year so i can't properly advise you current competitive standard decks.

Yeah, all that is true. Truthfully, I just want to play casually but it seems everyone else wanted to be teh hardcore.

 

[Fawcks]

You don't go looking to play Magic for 'fun' at an FNM. Have you asked if your shop has a casual play night? We have one on Thursdays here.