Why co-op is bad.

[Rayne870]

Been knocking about on TF2 tonight, and thinking a lot about opinions on multiplayer games. Using the cheap "yahtzee would agree" tactic inspired me to do this. (apologies for typos/grammar/fat fingers, I am REALLY drunk right now).

Caveats:

I am a gamer of a certain age (ie OLD)

I still like games.

I don't want the latest and greatest multiplayer experience. If I want MMO, I play MMO. I like a story. The story can be bad(loved F.E.A.R. and the sequel).

Lastly, co-op is only good as a last resort. None of my mates will play with me. (they all use cheat codes, I play hardcore...and cry)

I can't be the only one. AAA games are becoming the domain of spoilt kids who have the bandwidth.

Games that made me feel this way? Sup Com 2, DoW2, Sanctum.

Apologies if this is rehash of an old post.

Seems like the friends are the problem not the mechanic. Games need to go back to the NES roots where they were fun and playable alone but more fun together and specifically we need more local co-op rather than online. I do enjoy online and all but what ever happened to actually spending time with someone in the same room? It is my view that there should never be a single player game that features multiple characters in the party/squad w/e, there should always be the OPTION for co-op.

Again please don't blame co-op for why games are bad there are far greater reasons. And to be honest most games are really great but the community is largely negative.

IF you have a friend who can play with you, co-op is good. Even as your opinion, I say your completely wrong on this. Forcing co-op is wrong. Having the option is good. Portal 2 shows this, the co-op was more fun than the SP.

Portal 2 although awesome in both single player and co-op is kind of a side step on the issue as the single player and co-op segments are totally separate. Things should be more like Contra or at least Jet Force Gemini in my opinion when it comes to co-op.

 

[SpaceBat]

I'm still not sure why that makes co-op bad. Just because you're not in the situation to play co-op games with people you know, doesn't make it a bad idea. I have plenty of hardcore gamer friends that I can play games with and we make an incredibly good team, so I actually kinda enjoy co-op games.

Although I prefer them in games with a weak, uninteresting or non-existent story...you know, like gears.

 

[funguy2121]

Been knocking about on TF2 tonight, and thinking a lot about opinions on multiplayer games. Using the cheap "yahtzee would agree" tactic inspired me to do this. (apologies for typos/grammar/fat fingers, I am REALLY drunk right now).

Caveats:

I am a gamer of a certain age (ie OLD)

I still like games.

I don't want the latest and greatest multiplayer experience. If I want MMO, I play MMO. I like a story. The story can be bad(loved F.E.A.R. and the sequel).

Lastly, co-op is only good as a last resort. None of my mates will play with me. (they all use cheat codes, I play hardcore...and cry)

I can't be the only one. AAA games are becoming the domain of spoilt kids who have the bandwidth.

Games that made me feel this way? Sup Com 2, DoW2, Sanctum.

Apologies if this is rehash of an old post.

It sounds like you're complaining more about ONLINE co-op. What about local?

I don't understand how it isn't easier, particularly on consoles, to keep cheaters off of online games. I also don't understand the mindset of a competitive video game cheater. But maybe that's because I'm an intelligent person with real-world friends who's occasionally had sex in my lifetime.

 

[Kpt._Rob]

That's your opinion, and you're certainly entitled to it. But that doesn't make co-op games bad. It just means they're not to your taste. To be perfectly honest, I rarely play single player games anymore. To me the social interaction of screwing around in a virtual world with my friends is worth infinitely more than anything a single player game can offer. We laugh, we cry, we yell at our friend who's always too busy to get on.

The memories I make with friends are almost always the best. I don't remember too many individual moments from Bioshock or Condemned (even though they were both really good games, even some of my favorites) but you better believe I remember getting drunk and driving my friends off a cliff in Halo, or pushing on through some genuinely bad games just because having friends with me to joke around made it better.

 

[Spindleweed]

I just hate being corralled into the "new gamer" thing, where everyone has a bunch of buddies to play online with. I don't.

Maybe I'm just jealous.

 

[geK0]

The big problem with co-op is that it's nearly impossible to get a random assortment of strangers to actually cooperate.

 

[Serving UpSmiles]

Co-Op games are extremely fun, all my friends enjoy a good round of zombies on black ops, it seems all the OP can come up with is that he doesnt have any friends wanting to play with him. Seriously you can't make online friends to play with regurlary?

:/

The big problem with co-op is that it's nearly impossible to get a random assortment of strangers to actually cooperate.

That is bad co-op design, basicaly make it so that one player can't survive without another's help.