Why did Japan Bomb Pearl Harbor?

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Umwerfer

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Believe they were running out of oil, and had to attack the allies supply in order to supply themselves. Whcih would have caused the americans to attack, and they figured America wasn't that scary without their carrier fleet.
A shabby summary, but should be correct^^
 

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Roosevelt: hey sup
T0J0: y0
Stalin: hi
Churchill: hi
Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!
paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks
T0JO: lol
Roosevelt: o this fockin sucks i got a depression!
benny-tow: haha america sux
Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?
Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever
Stalin: cool
deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed some1 help
Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy
Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry
Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me
Roosevelt: get antiair guns
Churchill: i cant afford them
benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is?
paTTon: stfu
Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys
deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick
Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army
paTTon: yah hurry the fock up
Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded
deGaulle: this is fockin weak u guys suck
*deGaulle has left the game.*
Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?
benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?
benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?
Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO
T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u
Roosevelt: wtf! thats bullsh1t u fags im gunna kick ur asses
T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol
Roosevelt: u little biotch ill get u
Hitler[AoE]: wtf
Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fockin army
Hitler[AoE]: thats bullsh1t u hacker
Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler
Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!
T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard
Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path
Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE
Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol
benny-tow: haha
benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1
T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full
Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help
Roosevelt: yah thats right ***** im comin for ya
Stalin: church help me
Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here
Stalin: dont be an arss
Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late
Eisenhower: LOL
benny-tow: hahahh oh sh1t help
Hitler: o man ur focked
paTTon: oh what now biotch
Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol
*benny-tow has been eliminated.*
benny-tow: lame
Roosevelt: gj patton
paTTon: thnx
Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my sh1t
Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record
Eisenhower: Nuts!
benny~tow: wtf that mean?
Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped
paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun cocksocker
Stalin: rofl
T0J0: HAHAHHAA
Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fockin gay
Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city
*Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*
benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself
Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL
Stalin: OMG LMAO!
Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows
*Hitler[AoE] has left the game*
paTTon: hahahhah
T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs
benny~tow: shut up noob
Roosevelt: haha wut a moron
paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?
Eisenhower: yah me too
T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol
Eisenhower: fock u
paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie
Stalin: go to hell lol
paTTon: fock this sh1t im goin afk
Eisenhower: yah this is gay
*Roosevelt has left the game.*
Hitler[AoE]: wtf?
Eisenhower: sh1t now we need some1 to join
*tru_m4n has joined the game.*
tru_m4n: hi all
T0J0: hey
Stalin: sup
Churchill: hi
tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!
tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES
Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz
tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple
Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets
T0J0: wtf is nukes?
T0J0: holy sh1t!! holy sh1t!!! hoylshti!!!
*T0J0 has been eliminated.*
*The Allied team has won the game!*
Eisenhower: awesome!
Churchill: gg noobs no re
T0J0: thats bull**** u fockin suck
*T0J0 has left the game.*
*Eisenhower has left the game.*
Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for ****
Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbarss
tru_m4n: l8r all
benny~tow: bye
Churchill: l8r
Stalin: fock u all
tru_m4n: shut up commie lol
*tru_m4n has left the game.*
benny~tow: lololol u commie
Churchill: ROFL
Churchill: bye commie
*Churchill has left the game.*
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Stalin: i hate u all fags
*Stalin has left the game.*
paTTon: lol no1 is left
paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep
*paTTon has been eliminated.*
paTTon: o sh1t!
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That made me laugh so hard I have forgotten what I was going to say.
 

Archaon6044

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shits and giggles probably.

i kid. i expect they were afraid of America joining in WW2, against them, and that pearl harbor was the most likely place that a strike against Japan would be launched from, so they acted pre-emptivly, and brough doom upon themselves
 

electric discordian

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It was quite funny wasn't it that the Us government wanted in on the war and the carriers were told to leave the harbour several hours before the attack removing the most expensive pieces of kit from harms way. Pearl harbour was an act of political expediency on behalf of the US government.
 

Larenxis

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MA7743W said:
I thought the US weren't in WW2 until Pearl Harbor was bombed though ?
I mean they weren't planning to fight the Japanese anyway were they ?
I don't know much about this stuff obviously.
Another big part of the U.S. entering WWII was William Stevenson, a Canadian working for the British to increase support for the effort. Look him up; he's awesome.
 

Skizle

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Japan had plans to attack pearl harbor(i believe that the Japanese naval exam had a question on how you would bomb pearl harbor for 5 years i think). anyways pearl harbor was a strategic point in the pacific. it was the only place were ships could land and resupply between both pacific coasts. however most of the US pacific fleet was stationed at pearl harbor. so essentially if they could cut the head off the snake, then the body would fall. however when they bombed pearl harbor they missed 3 critical locations. the aircraft carriers, the airfields, and the fuel depots. if they would have taken these out then there would have been a different outcome for the US.
 

corporate_gamer

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Japan want to secure resources in countries that didn't strictly belong to them. This is because the felt the western powers would slow their resources and eventually conquer them. This may of been because the western powers hadn't been doing this to everyone who wasn't white and powerful.

Japan knew America wouldn't like this because A) America digs self-determination and B) America wanted cheap access to those self-same resources. Japan had to act quickly as American had cut-off their supply of oil.

Japan figured if they destroyed american naval power in the pacific then by the time the american had rebuilt it the japanese position would be far more secure with clear access to resourcs and a booming economy to support the war effort. Then the americans would be on the backfoot and would be unable to do anything without huge huge losses. And then the Japanese could clean up, conquer australia and the east indies, then take those extra two armies a turn and go all the way through china, india and meet up with their fuhrer buddy at the oil fields. Take out those sneaky russians and then they carve up africa between the two of them (il duce wouldn't of got a look in), and leave the American pig-dogs isolated and alone.

And it might just of worked if the aircraft carriers had been out of habour that day, they were far more important than some sailors and battleships + they took longer to build.
 

Nightfalke

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Over? Did you say "over"? Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

Germans?

Forget it, he's rolling.
 

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*deGaulle has joined the game.*
Roosevelt: hey sup
T0J0: y0
Stalin: hi
Churchill: hi
Hitler[AoE]: cool, i start with panzer tanks!
paTTon: lol more like panzy tanks
T0JO: lol
Roosevelt: o this fockin sucks i got a depression!
benny-tow: haha america sux
Stalin: hey hitler you dont fight me i dont fight u, cool?
Hitler[AoE]; sure whatever
Stalin: cool
deGaulle: **** Hitler rushed some1 help
Hitler[AoE]: lol byebye frenchy
Roosevelt: i dont got **** to help, sry
Churchill: wtf the luftwaffle is attacking me
Roosevelt: get antiair guns
Churchill: i cant afford them
benny-tow: u n00bs know what team talk is?
paTTon: stfu
Roosevelt: o yah hit the navajo button guys
deGaulle: eisenhower ur worthless come help me quick
Eisenhower: i cant do **** til rosevelt gives me an army
paTTon: yah hurry the fock up
Churchill: d00d im gettin pounded
deGaulle: this is fockin weak u guys suck
*deGaulle has left the game.*
Roosevelt: im gonna attack the axis k?
benny-tow: with what? ur wheelchair?
benny-tow: lol did u mess up ur legs AND ur head?
Hitler[AoE]: ROFLMAO
T0J0: lol o no america im comin 4 u
Roosevelt: wtf! thats bullsh1t u fags im gunna kick ur asses
T0JO: not without ur harbors u wont! lol
Roosevelt: u little biotch ill get u
Hitler[AoE]: wtf
Hitler[AoE]: america hax, u had depression and now u got a huge fockin army
Hitler[AoE]: thats bullsh1t u hacker
Churchill: lol no more france for u hitler
Hitler[AoE]: tojo help me!
T0J0: wtf u want me to do, im on the other side of the world retard
Hitler[AoE]: fine ill clear you a path
Stalin: WTF u arsshoel! WE HAD A FoCKIN TRUCE
Hitler[AoE]: i changed my mind lol
benny-tow: haha
benny-tow: hey ur losing ur guys in africa im gonna need help in italy soon sum1
T0J0: o **** i cant help u i got my hands full
Hitler[AoE]: im 2 busy 2 help
Roosevelt: yah thats right ***** im comin for ya
Stalin: church help me
Churchill: like u helped me before? sure ill just sit here
Stalin: dont be an arss
Churchill: dont be a commie. oops too late
Eisenhower: LOL
benny-tow: hahahh oh sh1t help
Hitler: o man ur focked
paTTon: oh what now biotch
Roosevelt: whos the cripple now lol
*benny-tow has been eliminated.*
benny-tow: lame
Roosevelt: gj patton
paTTon: thnx
Hitler[AoE]: WTF eisenhower hax hes killing all my sh1t
Hitler[AoE]: quit u hacker so u dont ruin my record
Eisenhower: Nuts!
benny~tow: wtf that mean?
Eisenhower: meant to say nutsack lol finger slipped
paTTon: coming to get u hitler u paper hanging hun cocksocker
Stalin: rofl
T0J0: HAHAHHAA
Hitler[AoE]: u guys are fockin gay
Hitler[AoE]: ur never getting in my city
*Hitler[AoE] has been eliminated.*
benny~tow: OMG u noob you killed yourself
Eisenhower: ROFLOLOLOL
Stalin: OMG LMAO!
Hitler[AoE]: WTF i didnt click there omg this game blows
*Hitler[AoE] has left the game*
paTTon: hahahhah
T0J0: WTF my teammates are n00bs
benny~tow: shut up noob
Roosevelt: haha wut a moron
paTTon: wtf am i gunna do now?
Eisenhower: yah me too
T0J0: why dont u attack me o thats right u dont got no ships lololol
Eisenhower: fock u
paTTon: lemme go thru ur base commie
Stalin: go to hell lol
paTTon: fock this sh1t im goin afk
Eisenhower: yah this is gay
*Roosevelt has left the game.*
Hitler[AoE]: wtf?
Eisenhower: sh1t now we need some1 to join
*tru_m4n has joined the game.*
tru_m4n: hi all
T0J0: hey
Stalin: sup
Churchill: hi
tru_m4n: OMG OMG OMG i got all his stuff!
tru_m4n: NUKES! HOLY **** I GOT NUKES
Stalin: d00d gimmie some plz
tru_m4n: no way i only got like a couple
Stalin: omg dont be gay gimmie nuculer secrets
T0J0: wtf is nukes?
T0J0: holy sh1t!! holy sh1t!!! hoylshti!!!
*T0J0 has been eliminated.*
*The Allied team has won the game!*
Eisenhower: awesome!
Churchill: gg noobs no re
T0J0: thats bull**** u fockin suck
*T0J0 has left the game.*
*Eisenhower has left the game.*
Stalin: next game im not going to be on ur team, u guys didnt help me for ****
Churchill: wutever, we didnt need ur help neway dumbarss
tru_m4n: l8r all
benny~tow: bye
Churchill: l8r
Stalin: fock u all
tru_m4n: shut up commie lol
*tru_m4n has left the game.*
benny~tow: lololol u commie
Churchill: ROFL
Churchill: bye commie
*Churchill has left the game.*
*benny~tow has left the game.*
Stalin: i hate u all fags
*Stalin has left the game.*
paTTon: lol no1 is left
paTTon: weeeee i got a jeep
*paTTon has been eliminated.*
paTTon: o sh1t!
*paTTon has left the game.*
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That may have been the greatest thing I have EVER read!
 

brunt32

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what all of you have forgotten is this may been biggest mistake in hisory, japan for nuked.
 

Dudemeister

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Larenxis said:
MA7743W said:
I thought the US weren't in WW2 until Pearl Harbor was bombed though ?
I mean they weren't planning to fight the Japanese anyway were they ?
I don't know much about this stuff obviously.
Another big part of the U.S. entering WWII was William Stevenson, a Canadian working for the British to increase support for the effort. Look him up; he's awesome.
Sir William Samuel Stephenson, CC, MC, DFC (January 23, 1897 - January 31, 1989) was a Canadian soldier, airman, businessperson, inventor, spymaster, and the senior representative of British intelligence for the entire western hemisphere during World War II.
Wow :O
 

Terror_666

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Japan was planning to attack Malaysia and the Philippines for the resources those places held.
Both of those area's were under the control of the British and Americans respectively, starting a war with both, the British needed there fleet in the Atlantic to fight the Germans and the US was not involved in the war in Europe at the time.
So they had to take out the bulk of the US pacific fleet which was the most powerful in the region.

The attack was a great success. Most of the surface fleet was destroyed including several Battleships which the Japanese (and the US) believed to be the greatest threat. However they missed most of the carriers and all the submarines. Missing the subs was there biggest failure because in the following years the subs did more damage to the Japanese than the Air and Surface combatants combined.
 

Larenxis

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MA7743W said:
Sir William Samuel Stephenson, CC, MC, DFC (January 23, 1897 - January 31, 1989) was a Canadian soldier, airman, businessperson, inventor, spymaster, and the senior representative of British intelligence for the entire western hemisphere during World War II.
Wow :O
He's also the inspiration for James Bond! He's pretty much the coolest guy ever.
 

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Codgo said:
gremily said:
I am trying to figure this out for a research project. Why did Japan bomb Pearl Harbor.
Go do some real study on the subject from a book.
This is the only answer that should've been given.

But yeah, this thread is generally correct. Japan developed a sort of manifest destiny and became determined to rule Asia. They began engaging in some serious aggression in Pacific regions which, in addition to creating serious moral offenses with actions like the Rape of Nanking, directly threatened British, Dutch, French, and American holdings in Asia. Furthermore, they entered into alliance with Germany and Italy. The American response was to cut off scrap metal and oil exports (over 80% of the latter) to Japan, which presented a massive problem: without these resources, Japan could not continue to build and maintain their military. There were attempts to reconcile with America and get the oil flowing again, but Japan's refusal to exit China was a deal-breaker. Left with 2 years of oil at the most, Japan decided to engage in a pre-emptive attack that they hoped would cripple America's ability to wage war in the Pacific.

I don't understand why you need to even ask about this stuff in forums. Information on this topic is very, very widely available, and in far more reliable forms than the interwebz.
 

Grahwo

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One of the main reasons japan did attack Pearl harbor was, to take out the US navy while they still was in port and take it with suprice.

One of the most important targets during this attack was to take out the 4(3-5) Aircraft Carriers that the US navy had in its posession, without these the US navy would not be able to attack Japan in the pacific ocean like they did in 43-45.

Luckily for the US these ships was out on a training mission to the north west( i think it was) of the havaiian islands. and was able to avoid being destroyed during the attack.

It was simple, to cripple the US navy while they still was in port.

If the navy had lost its Aircraft carriers, the victories in the pacific ocean would be much more difficult, if not even impossible, as the British navy learned in the early stages of the war when they tried to fight japan with only Ships.




Saevus said:
Codgo said:
gremily said:
I am trying to figure this out for a research project. Why did Japan bomb Pearl Harbor.
Go do some real study on the subject from a book.
This is the only answer that should've been given.

But yeah, this thread is generally correct. Japan developed a sort of manifest destiny and became determined to rule Asia. They began engaging in some serious aggression in Pacific regions which, in addition to creating serious moral offenses with actions like the Rape of Nanking, directly threatened British, Dutch, French, and American holdings in Asia. Furthermore, they entered into alliance with Germany and Italy. The American response was to cut off scrap metal and oil exports (over 80% of the latter) to Japan, which presented a massive problem: without these resources, Japan could not continue to build and maintain their military. There were attempts to reconcile with America and get the oil flowing again, but Japan's refusal to exit China was a deal-breaker. Left with 2 years of oil at the most, Japan decided to engage in a pre-emptive attack that they hoped would cripple America's ability to wage war in the Pacific.

I don't understand why you need to even ask about this stuff in forums. Information on this topic is very, very widely available, and in far more reliable forms than the interwebz.
You are quite right here, it was a question about survival for the Empire of the sun.
They where at the brink of being straved (japanice civians did suffer greatly from the trade blockades)


I really reconment heading into the net and look up the documentary called "World at war"
Produced in 1793. It is the only documentary series of WW2 thats in my eyes fully objective, and does not take any "sides" on the war, like most you see on tv and is written by western historians who wrights about the great victory of WW2.

Episode 23&24 "japan" and "pacific ocean" gives a good inview into why japan began occupying the east, and went to war against the british colonists.
" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSzioWiAj0U&feature=related "
i really reconmend having a look at these series.


The series is quite good, they have lots of interviews with major people who where involved in the war, and rather funny imo, actually interviewing one of the main spies in Perl Harbor.


And a fun fact thats mentioned is that the only reason why the US won against japan was because of the nuke. If not, they would have been bankrupt before they had taken the emperor.
 

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MA7743W said:
Raven_Letters said:
Japan bombed Pearl Harbor in order to destroy the U.S Navy based there, thereby eliminating the U.S's ability to wage war against Japan in the Pacific.

This is a very basic, crude outline of it; there are other major factors as well, but this is generally the starting point.
I thought the US weren't in WW2 until Pearl Harbor was bombed though ?
I mean they weren't planning to fight the Japanese anyway were they ?
I don't know much about this stuff obviously.
As mentioned by others, go get some good books out of a library and have a read, that will inform you best, but for the sake of posting....

Indirectly the USA was already fighting Japan. US volunteer pilots were flying for the RAF in the Asian theatre of war, the US had cut off Japan's supply of Oil, was supplying Britain constantly with all the necessary supplies to keep fighting Japan and Germany, was providing arms and assistance to the Chinese Resistance, as well as Canadian and ANZAC forces (Australia and New Zealand).

All of the above contravenes the existing international war rules of the time. So in a sense, Japan had been provoked in every possible way.

Also worth looking at is the incompetence of the Radar operation on Hawaii. Without this there would have been US Navy and Air Force fighters in the air in time to resist the Japanese attack, mitigating the devastation. As covered in the fantastic 'The World at War' documentary series, the Radar operators had no idea how to interpret the huge signal that represented the coming Japanese attack force and when they contacted their commanders (who really should have known better) they were told to ignore it.
This has lead to some people (the occasional historian included) believing that the commanders knew what was coming and were under orders to allow a successful Japanese attack in order to provoke the American public into supporting Roosevelt's desire to join in the war - with the USA's capacity to rapidly construct replacement ships and recruit replacement soldiers/sailors Pearl Harbor could be considered 'acceptable losses'. Though I personally don't entirely share that opinion.
 

soren7550

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Wasn't there something to due w/ oil? (sorry if it's above me, I'm not reading all that.)