It means plenty about human behaviour and the human condition, but it is a very vague term. It still means a lot, though. Human nature encompasses everything from Love to greed and what motivates us etc.Zac_Dai said:Human nature is a silly term anyway that doesn't really mean anything.
That's kind of an ideal though. In reality you get one morally grey person in every million who happens to rise to political power. They aren't totally good or evil, but they get enough support to be in power because of a couple of key points. These people are called politicians. The ideal (or indeed problem) you are talking about died a long while ago in western society, this is democracy.DVSAurion said:Quite honestly, I think it's stupidity. Mostly. Let me explain.
There is one truly evil or good person in every million people or so. This guy is the one who makes a difference, makes all the other idiots follow him/her. And that determines what people do. This is what causes all the bad/good things in the world.
These terms are subjective. They do not exist in objective reality, only within your mind.brumby said:what makes people evil? what makes them good?
people never had free will to begin with.Stormshadow243 said:The solution? Strip away free will. People instinctively act like douche bags to one another when they know there's no consequence behind their actions. The internet is a perfect avenue to see this happening. That's why people flame one another on message boards. The wors that will happen to them is being banned from the site. I think that humans just have a self destructive nature towards each other and anything else in a 50 mile radius.
Well, not too many politician seems to have too much power, because they have to share it because of democracy. Idiots don't follow politicians any more: it's forms of media nowadays. Yes that's right that most things are grey. Or starts of as gray, but then it deforms into something messed up. For example news. People watch them and they read about how video games are cause of all bad things in life and so on.Puzzles said:That's kind of an ideal though. In reality you get one morally grey person in every million who happens to rise to political power. They aren't totally good or evil, but they get enough support to be in power because of a couple of key points. These people are called politicians. The ideal (or indeed problem) you are talking about died a long while ago in western society, this is democracy.DVSAurion said:Quite honestly, I think it's stupidity. Mostly. Let me explain.
There is one truly evil or good person in every million people or so. This guy is the one who makes a difference, makes all the other idiots follow him/her. And that determines what people do. This is what causes all the bad/good things in the world.
Take Obama for example. People praise him as some savior of sorts, but to be honest the only way he seems to differ from a lot of other politicians is that he is good at rhetoric and is mixed race. He is no more good or evil than any other politician, but he had enough following to get into power.
I just hate the term personally.Puzzles said:It means plenty about human behaviour and the human condition, but it is a very vague term. It still means a lot, though. Human nature encompasses everything from Love to greed and what motivates us etc.Zac_Dai said:Human nature is a silly term anyway that doesn't really mean anything.
Yeah point well taken, I know it isn't the best of terms, I was just trying to be dramatic and say two words to close the thread. No it explains little but it tries its best to emcompass a lot. If you take the term as its literal definition it has a bit more meaning. I wish I wasn't drunk so I could write a decent response, but oh well. Have a good night guys/girls.Zac_Dai said:I just hate the term personally.Puzzles said:It means plenty about human behaviour and the human condition, but it is a very vague term. It still means a lot, though. Human nature encompasses everything from Love to greed and what motivates us etc.Zac_Dai said:Human nature is a silly term anyway that doesn't really mean anything.
It gets thrown around a lot to explain away the behaviour of humans without actually explaining anything.
Yeah I just hate the whole segmenting actions into black and white. I think almost everything is grey with shades of awesome or superbad. Like I said already, I wish I wasn't drunk so I could give a satisfactory reply... Maybe that will have to wait for the morning. I still maintain that no one follows a completely good or evil person, and that a leader can only be followed if they have some sort of good ideal, but I also don't believe that anyone is the dictionary definition of good (we all have our vices, we all have our problems). I mean, unless the whole of the public is secretly evil, but I don't think that is the case. Anyway I'm probably making little sense, so let me make more by saying goodnight and I'll adress this tomorrow unless I stumble on a reply before then.DVSAurion said:Well, not too many politician seems to have too much power, because they have to share it because of democracy. Idiots don't follow politicians any more: it's forms of media nowadays. Yes that's right that most things are grey. Or starts of as gray, but then it deforms into something messed up. For example news. People watch them and they read about how video games are cause of all bad things in life and so on.Puzzles said:That's kind of an ideal though. In reality you get one morally grey person in every million who happens to rise to political power. They aren't totally good or evil, but they get enough support to be in power because of a couple of key points. These people are called politicians. The ideal (or indeed problem) you are talking about died a long while ago in western society, this is democracy.DVSAurion said:Quite honestly, I think it's stupidity. Mostly. Let me explain.
There is one truly evil or good person in every million people or so. This guy is the one who makes a difference, makes all the other idiots follow him/her. And that determines what people do. This is what causes all the bad/good things in the world.
Take Obama for example. People praise him as some savior of sorts, but to be honest the only way he seems to differ from a lot of other politicians is that he is good at rhetoric and is mixed race. He is no more good or evil than any other politician, but he had enough following to get into power.