Why do I have to feel old?
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I wouldn't call you 'old.' I'm 24, I started playing games with the huge black monstrosity my dad brought home in the late 80s. Used the large floppies, didn't have a hard drive as I recall, and played some awesome black and white games where you could pretty much just jump over stuff... it did have a nice flight sim (i think in CGA colors) and a torpedo boat sim. I have also played commodores (cousins), amigas, ataris, original nintendo's, etc. I also remember the days of 286s, 386s, 486s, pentium 1s, and the like, and was using DOS at the tender age of 7 (surprising i'm not in more of a computer based career).
I remember loom, monkey island (i still prefer monkey island over loom), played the original 2 prince of persias (btw if you just click parry and attack incessantly and at the same time you never lose a swordfight), kings quests 3 was one of my faves, kings quest 1 i couldn't play since i didn't know enough english back then, space quest series is still one of my all time greatest game series, loved lands of lore, red baron, privateer, star con 1 was even good (although 2 was better), wing commander, The Incredible Machine was fun, Leisure Larry (my mom had no idea what the hell we were playing back then), moving onto Planescape and Baldur's gate (which are still top rated RPGs in my mind), Morrowind more recently... I don't own a console, but I am debating it now, PC games haven't been awe inspiring lately, and they seem watered down versions as they are console ports have the time (here's looking at you Bioshock and Oblivion).
Anyway, there were not that many hardcore PC gamers back in the day, nintendo was still more popular than PC. The people who remember many of those old PC games, which for most part were written better than almost any games out today, are few and lucky.
I remember loom, monkey island (i still prefer monkey island over loom), played the original 2 prince of persias (btw if you just click parry and attack incessantly and at the same time you never lose a swordfight), kings quests 3 was one of my faves, kings quest 1 i couldn't play since i didn't know enough english back then, space quest series is still one of my all time greatest game series, loved lands of lore, red baron, privateer, star con 1 was even good (although 2 was better), wing commander, The Incredible Machine was fun, Leisure Larry (my mom had no idea what the hell we were playing back then), moving onto Planescape and Baldur's gate (which are still top rated RPGs in my mind), Morrowind more recently... I don't own a console, but I am debating it now, PC games haven't been awe inspiring lately, and they seem watered down versions as they are console ports have the time (here's looking at you Bioshock and Oblivion).
Anyway, there were not that many hardcore PC gamers back in the day, nintendo was still more popular than PC. The people who remember many of those old PC games, which for most part were written better than almost any games out today, are few and lucky.
it's actually quite hard to say which consoles are old school. It's pretty relative, if you ask me. The SNES mightn't have been an old school console back in the 32/64bit era, but now it is (at least imo). For me, a console can earn the name of "old school" once they're 20 years old. But then we have consoles like amiga, commodore, etc, who also get older as time goes by. What do you call them? "old old school"?
I also like yahtzee's reviews, and i honestly haven't seen any imitators besides the "some punctuation" guy, and he did the job quite well.
As for the system specs thing, pc game developers try to keep with the consoles in this subject. Console ports don't help either. As each console generation pushes the graphics to the limit, the pc has to go after them. PC game developers are afraid of losing their audience to the console gaming market if they don't keep pushing it in the graphics department. What they don't realize is that they're losing it anyway, as they try to make pc games' graphics as good as console games' graphics. It's a lot more expensive to upgrade or buy a new pc than it is to buy a new console. I see no hope for pc gaming if all we keep getting are mmo's, console ports, or games that just beg for a console port *cough* crysis *cough*
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I also like yahtzee's reviews, and i honestly haven't seen any imitators besides the "some punctuation" guy, and he did the job quite well.
As for the system specs thing, pc game developers try to keep with the consoles in this subject. Console ports don't help either. As each console generation pushes the graphics to the limit, the pc has to go after them. PC game developers are afraid of losing their audience to the console gaming market if they don't keep pushing it in the graphics department. What they don't realize is that they're losing it anyway, as they try to make pc games' graphics as good as console games' graphics. It's a lot more expensive to upgrade or buy a new pc than it is to buy a new console. I see no hope for pc gaming if all we keep getting are mmo's, console ports, or games that just beg for a console port *cough* crysis *cough*
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Time passes us not, my friend. I too have given up on the new PC games for reasons not dissimilar from yours...aka I'd rather pay my mortgage than buy a new vid card. The best we can hope for, i think, is to keep our feelers out for the games that we feel don't suck & preserve those that we deem worthy for our children to enjoy with us.
And I don't feel its "old school" unless you needed a screwdriver to hook the consoul up or it came on 5¼" OR cassette tape...
And I don't feel its "old school" unless you needed a screwdriver to hook the consoul up or it came on 5¼" OR cassette tape...
ah the old days when floppy disks were actually floppy.
i miss goblins when i had a black and white moniter(if you remember the game you may understand why it took me 30minutes to get into the game)it was sooooo good when i finally got the colour moniter and could finally read what people where talking about in startrek 25th anniversary
i miss goblins when i had a black and white moniter(if you remember the game you may understand why it took me 30minutes to get into the game)it was sooooo good when i finally got the colour moniter and could finally read what people where talking about in startrek 25th anniversary
Don't get me wrong, there are things I'll consider "old school" in relation to today's standards, just to acknowledge the passage of time. I've been playing games for a long time before the original Alone in the Dark came out, but it was one of the pioneers of polygon graphics, a forefather of survival horror, and probably the template from which almost the entire genre is based. Yes, it's not "old school" in terms of comparing to the C64, which is my first computer gaming experience, but I feel it deserves the title. Also, just about any game, including those which venture into VGA territory, I might consider "old school" because they still use the text parser or SCUMM interface, which carries from the old-school tradition dating back to Zork, and probably further, but whatever. But the PSX being old school? I don't find that it truly deserves the title by any stretch. When I think of old-school RPGs, I think about games like Wizardry, the Genesis-based Phantasy Stars, even if they're not the oldest of the old, but they go back to before the RPG experience was 10 minutes of gameplay per 30 minutes of boring cutscenes.
Basically, I break it down like this:
Before the Commodore 64 and Atari, I consider my "pre-historic" stage, because they date back before I was gaming.
Even though it spans a few eras, anything from the Atari, C64, Amiga, NES, or PC games that still run on my Hercules Monochrome, no hard drive, XT computer are old school by default.
Games of the 486 to early Pentium era CAN be considered borderline "old school," based on certain qualifiers. Most of them, I do not consider old school in any way, but some of them defined an entirely new genre, and may pass as "old school" when taken in context of that genre. For instance, AITD, Dune 2, or 4D Boxing.
Basically, I break it down like this:
Before the Commodore 64 and Atari, I consider my "pre-historic" stage, because they date back before I was gaming.
Even though it spans a few eras, anything from the Atari, C64, Amiga, NES, or PC games that still run on my Hercules Monochrome, no hard drive, XT computer are old school by default.
Games of the 486 to early Pentium era CAN be considered borderline "old school," based on certain qualifiers. Most of them, I do not consider old school in any way, but some of them defined an entirely new genre, and may pass as "old school" when taken in context of that genre. For instance, AITD, Dune 2, or 4D Boxing.