You try to write a better story and end up writing a worse one, nice...MortisLegio said:
Criticize all you want, you're still talking shit about people who have far more talent than most of you will ever have.
Why do people completely ignore how great 98% of Mass Effect 3 was and just focus on the ending?
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Criticize all you want, you're still talking shit about people who have far more talent than most of you will ever have.
If I was having sex with an awesome hot girl, really getting into it and suddenly a man jumps out from under the bed, pulls me off the girl before slamming a hammer down my gentleman parts, I'd probably remember the hammer blow more than the actual sex beforehand.
Of course ME2 didn't have anything to do with ME3.Casual Shinji said:
ME1 stop Saren and Sovereign from bringing back the Reapers. End of Mass Effect 1 plot resolved.
ME2 stop Collectors from kidnapping human colonies. End of Mass Effect 2 plot resolved.
How exactly does Mass Effect 2 have to be connected to ME3?
Well thanks at least for not making a scatological reference; I've had more than enough of those.Fasckira said:
Because it really wasn't 98% great... The story was pretty bad overall if I must say so myself. And I usually LOVE bioware stories.
It could just be me though, as I've said before, the blatant power creep in ME3 drove me insane, and I was already dissatisfied with the story before I even reached Rannoch, let alone the shit ending.
Gameplay was very solid though, I give them that, it's just that the story overall was average, for every part I liked, I found another part I disliked
It could just be me though, as I've said before, the blatant power creep in ME3 drove me insane, and I was already dissatisfied with the story before I even reached Rannoch, let alone the shit ending.
Gameplay was very solid though, I give them that, it's just that the story overall was average, for every part I liked, I found another part I disliked
Well I guess it proves Mass Effect isn't the shit game some people say it is.Fappy said:
How many people were still talking about Alpha Protocol or Mindjack 6 months after they came out?
Well the problem is that most ME3 topics I still see come up today are old fans just digging up rotten corpses. Why do people still feel the need to defend this game so long after it came out. The people who hate it are not going to change their minds at this point. The same shit happened with DA2 as well.ChrisRedfield92 said:
People just can't accept that some people don't like what they like. D:
Depends on how you look at it. I'd wager most people look at ME3's ending as the series' ending, whereas I think it's more appropriate to look at the entirety of ME3 as the series' ending. If you're the type of person to view it as the former then I can understand them being bitter - those 5 minutes are what everything's built up to. If you look at it from the point of view as the latter, then the ending has 5 dodgy minutes in it.
For me, ME3 was full of endings, and a lot of them were really fucking good, whilst the tone and feel of the entire game was palpably desperate and gritty. And I loved that, and I can take the final ending being crap in light of all that goodness that came before it. I just didn't find it offensive as a lot of people seemed to.
For me, ME3 was full of endings, and a lot of them were really fucking good, whilst the tone and feel of the entire game was palpably desperate and gritty. And I loved that, and I can take the final ending being crap in light of all that goodness that came before it. I just didn't find it offensive as a lot of people seemed to.
ME3 was an aggressively average game in many respects long before the ending. It definitely had its strong moments, but most of those carried through on the emotions/connections created in the previous two (superior) titles. It was riding on their coattails, so to speak, and picking up some of their reflected glory.
ME3 was riddled with pacing issues, animation and graphic glitches, bland characterizations (Vega) and awful characterizations (Allers), even further retconning of Cerberus making them more ridiculous and improbable than ever, some painfully stilted dialogue, and a dodgy plot that focused entirely around an 11th hour MacGuffin. This is not to say the game does not have merits, but it is most certainly NOT a GOTY candidate, even if you overlook the ending. I'm not sure where the whole "It was 98% amazing" fallacy came from. Presumably it's because compared to the ending everything seemed amazing.
ME3 was riddled with pacing issues, animation and graphic glitches, bland characterizations (Vega) and awful characterizations (Allers), even further retconning of Cerberus making them more ridiculous and improbable than ever, some painfully stilted dialogue, and a dodgy plot that focused entirely around an 11th hour MacGuffin. This is not to say the game does not have merits, but it is most certainly NOT a GOTY candidate, even if you overlook the ending. I'm not sure where the whole "It was 98% amazing" fallacy came from. Presumably it's because compared to the ending everything seemed amazing.
Because people like to hate, and haters are among the most loud people on the Internet.
Yeah, I wasn't thrilled about the ending, but the game had some pretty big moments. This is a personal opinion, but I found nothing that feels as epic in ME2 as the cure the genophage, save the quarians/geth and the final push missions; except for the suicide mission and some of the DLC.
Yeah, I wasn't thrilled about the ending, but the game had some pretty big moments. This is a personal opinion, but I found nothing that feels as epic in ME2 as the cure the genophage, save the quarians/geth and the final push missions; except for the suicide mission and some of the DLC.
The Reapers.ChrisRedfield92 said:
In ME1 we learn about their existence, that one is already here, and that more are coming. In ME2 we learn... nothing, except that the Reapers turned the Protheans into the Collectors - who all die at the end and are never mentioned again - and that they were building that stupid human Reaper that you destroy and which is also never mentioned again.
We learn absolutely nothing of any interest about the Reapers in ME2. No weakness or anything else that can be used to fight them.
As a result ME3 was left holding the ball and we were presented with the Deus ex Machina plot.
Yeah I'm going to have to agree with many of the people on this thread and say that 98% is a gross overestimation of what was good in Mass Effect 3. I'd probably set it around 15-25% for the improved fighting engine and the random parts that did actually impress me. The other 75-85% was just unacceptably bad writing, programming, planning, marketing and support for a game that was expected to be extremely good. I could continue to rant about why, but I think that has been handily taken care of already on the forum.
I'm not a Dragon Age fan, I played the first one and hated it, I have no idea what DA2 did to piss of some people the way it did; I'm sure if I actually played it I'd go: "seriously, this is what pissed you off this much?"Fappy said:
But you're right, I'm just tired at this point, even tired of the people who still ***** about the ending, even though I hated it like most people.
*Looks at title*
Yep, this will be an entirely unbiased and thought-provoking discussion.
*Grabs popcorn*
In all seriousness, a large part of the problem is it changes the player's perspective on everything that happened before. The Reapers are demystified (in a extraordinarily unsatisfying way I might add) which changes the basis of how many viewed the game.
Taken with the fact that the big seller with the franchise was the story, and you realize a story related failing at the very end can cause an insurmountable problem.
Yep, this will be an entirely unbiased and thought-provoking discussion.
*Grabs popcorn*
In all seriousness, a large part of the problem is it changes the player's perspective on everything that happened before. The Reapers are demystified (in a extraordinarily unsatisfying way I might add) which changes the basis of how many viewed the game.
Taken with the fact that the big seller with the franchise was the story, and you realize a story related failing at the very end can cause an insurmountable problem.