Why do people hate Mojang?

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icyneesan

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I don't hate Mojang, I enjoyed Minecraft. But I don't see why they should be praised as the BEST STUDIO EVER for only having 1 (popular) game. Valve, Bioware, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, all have had various games that I have enjoyed A LOT more then Minecraft.
 

barbzilla

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Quite honestly I like Mojang quite a bit. I don't enjoy minecraft at all, but it isn't my type of game. What I do admire is that they took a risk on something new and it paid off (not completely new of course). This is good news for the gaming community as it means perhaps we will get a few new ideas thrown in with the usual releases of Tripple A titles and the endless sea of sequels. I do not like the idea that they won march madness only based on the fact that we are supposed to be voting on the best developers. Since I have only even heard of 1 game from Mojang I don't think it is a necessarily deserved title.
 

Delusibeta

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Most of the haters are just winging at how (barring some kind of major comeback in the next two days) Mojang has won March Mayhem. Ignore them.
 

Adam80027

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Let's be honest. People who have any good reason to hate Mojang don't base it on the company alone. We've seen that through reading this thread. No, most people voice negative opinions on it because of the way the fanbase represents it. Let's break that down a little bit.

WARNING, WALL OF TEXT INCOMING. TL;DR AT THE BOTTOM.

1. Anyone who loves MineCraft will probably fight tooth and nail if the game was ever spoken badly of. Sometimes this is justified, specifically when baseless claims are made like "it looks stupid". That's not really based on any sort of fact. Other arguments made against MineCraft really hold water, and are quite compelling. "The game isn't a game, it's a toy," or "It's still in development," are among these. These are basically facts, not opinions, and MineCraft fans shouldn't try to argue against these claims. If someone dislikes the game, don't fight it. Offer reasons why you disagree, but don't tell anyone they're wrong. People see that and place a negative stigma on ALL MineCraft fans.

2. MineCraft should not have won MarchMadness. Let's be clear: I love MineCraft. It's just out of its league at the moment. It offers hours of entertainment, but it delivers a completely different experience from those offered by other developers. Their games are apples and oranges. Mojang shouldn't have even been entered in the competition, in my opinion. Yes, it got the game a LOT of publicity. But now, thanks to the blunders of a handful of individuals, there's now this underlying animosity between anyone who likes MineCraft and anyone who doesn't. If, say, the final round had been between BioWare and Valve, the outcome would probably leave the fans of each developer still being okay with each other. Obviously, preference in games isn't binary; there would have been lots of overlap and people who just couldn't decide on who to vote for. With Mojang it was different. Most people probably think it was unfair, since their fanbase is pretty rabid, and extensive. The votes weren't being given in spirit of the competition. Now all we're left with is a lot of angry glares between the two camps, with the occasional trollflame.

So where do we go from here? Mojang fans need to acknowledge that MineCraft can't be fairly called a full game yet. It should not be compared to other full-length AAA games head to head, even though the AAA industry can learn a lot from MineCraft's style. People need to relax and stop fighting over these petty differences. Sure, the other guy might not like MineCraft. Don't hate him for it! He's a human being, who just has different tastes and views than you. It's the same reason why people think all Christians are hypocrites. There's value in the things they represent, but they are poor representatives of those things.

TL;DR Version, MineCraft fans need to stop taking a binary view on games. Just because someone doesn't like what you like doesn't mean there's reason for personal attacks and trolling. Mojang isn't ready to be pitted against other developers or yet. MineCraft fans need to cool down and wait. Their day will come. Hopefully, in time, the fanbase's reputation will be improved.
 

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Xanadu84 said:
Jandau said:
Who hates Mojang? Seriously, the only thing you can hear on these boards regarding Mojang is love, praise and adoration for Minecraft. Personally, I just don't care about them. They made one game which I didn't like.
Then you havn't been following the last few March Mayhem matchups. The hate is palpable.
True, I steer clear of the dedicated MM threads, since they are often populated by trolls who aren't really a part of the Escapist community. But when it comes to actual Escapists, the love towards Minecraft borders on Valve-level fanboyinsm...
 

Arisato-kun

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My friend hates Mojang due to the simple fact that he says another company made the same kind of game like 4 years before them.

I don't hate Mojang at all. If that was indeed the case then Mojang was just more successful.
 

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Jordi said:
nukethewhales said:
I don't get it. I think its a nice story of the little persons triumph over all the big people that run the industry.
People are getting upset that Mojang is beating the other companys, but why? They made a SINGLE good game (too my knowledge), do people think this victory will last forever? Of course it won't, nintendo isn't going to stop makeing games, nor will Valve or any other competition.

Please keep it a bit civil by the way, thanks.
Below i get a bit ranty and might be a bit "Uncivil" upon reflection , feel free to skip it, can't say i didn't give you an option ;D

Frankly im getting board of all this copy paste crap the gameing industry is shoveing down our througts and i am finding more and more games made by tiny companys that i enjoy way more than anything nintendo, valve, capcom or nintendo realeased in the past 5 years.
Not everybody likes rooting for the underdog. At least not as much as they like rooting for justice. And besides, nobody roots for the underdog when that underdog is going up against "your" team/developer.

I don't think any sane person really hates Mojang. They just hate the injustice of a brand new developer with one game in beta (that they might not even like) beat out 63 companies that deserved the title a thousand times more. And then when the MineCraft fanboys start rubbing their noses in it, it can get ugly. Of course, none of that is Mojang's fault, and people getting personal with the company are just idiots.
You do make good points, but what irritates me more than blind fanboyism is the people who see someone else loyal to a developer, or something along those lines and immediately derides them for liking that thing. People nowadays seem to have forgotten the concept of "well I don't like this thing, but I see no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to."

Besides, March Mayhem is an annual contest. That means that you're rating developers for what they've done in the year gone by, and what they've done in this young year. I was quite surprised that Bioware made it to the finals after all the impotent virgin nerd rage about Dragon Age 2. (I haven't played Dragon Age 2, nor do I intend to, as there are other series I'm invested in. It might be fine, or terrible for all I know.) So if people are voting on a year by year system (which I doubt they are) I would assume Bioware got in due to the 2010 Mass Effect 2 DLC. Taking this allotted time into account, I'd say Mojang stood up for itself quite well.

Hypothetical Scenario: Game company appears, revolutionizing gaming with something awesome, gaining it a permanent horde of die-hard followers. It is now one of the big gaming Titans. for the next few years it puts out games of similar quality with occasional minor improvements, being caught up meanwhile by the rest of the game developers. Does it deserve to win March Mayhem this year? Not really, the time of its big contribution to gaming has long gone. I didn't vote during March Mayhem, but if I had, my votes would have been caught between Valve and Mojang. Two opposite ends of the spectrum liked for different reasons.
 

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Because vacations and terrible disciprine.

For some fucking reason people instantly assume that an indie dev is a million times better than a proper corporate dev just because INDIE LITTLE PERSON POWER LOL (no offense intended if you're short)

Ubisoft, for instance, makes games that are a million time better than minecraft and mojang. But do they get cred? nope.
 

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nukethewhales said:
I don't get it. I think its a nice story of the little persons triumph over all the big people that run the industry.
People are getting upset that Mojang is beating the other companys, but why? They made a SINGLE good game (too my knowledge), do people think this victory will last forever? Of course it won't, nintendo isn't going to stop makeing games, nor will Valve or any other competition.

Please keep it a bit civil by the way, thanks.
Below i get a bit ranty and might be a bit "Uncivil" upon reflection , feel free to skip it, can't say i didn't give you an option ;D

Frankly im getting board of all this copy paste crap the gameing industry is shoveing down our througts and i am finding more and more games made by tiny companys that i enjoy way more than anything nintendo, valve, capcom or nintendo realeased in the past 5 years.
people dont hate mojang, they just dont think mojang deserves it. and frankly they dont. you mention they made a SINGLE good game. they have not. minecraft is in beta. its like awarding the 2013 ford mustang car of the year when they only have the exterior designed and no internal components, its not finished, and it doesnt deserve the recognition its getting in terms of a developer of the year.
 

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I don't hate them. As far as MM goes though, they haven't released a full game yet. They might be developers, but until I see a complete game I don't think they deserve to be in MM.
 

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Adam80027 said:
The votes weren't being given in spirit of the competition.
I'm afraid I'm gonna have to ask you to justify that statement, it's pretty ridiculous. I took into account the histories of all the companies I voted for in the MM brackets. Granted, I wouldn't have put Bioware up against Minecraft in the final, but that's because I voted for someone else. I didn't even vote for Mojang in the final in my original bracket, but being forced to choose between the two developers, I got more fulfillment out of Minecraft than I got out of Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, and what little I've played of Dragon Age (though I wish to play more of it). Yes, I took into account their earlier works too. I still voted for Mojang. You can disagree, but please respect my opinion.

It offers hours of entertainment, but it delivers a completely different experience from those offered by other developers.
I think that's a capital reason to vote for Mojang! Why pick from a field of similars when there's a standout I truly love right in front of me?


Minecraft is an outstanding game and I don't really care that it's not finished. So what? What is the big deal about it "not being finished", I really don't get it. I will play an unfinished game. If it's fun, I'll play it. Minecraft is what it is, a game in development that is fun now and being enjoyed by many gamers. It is continuing to be updated. If people dislike a bad coder who takes a lot of time to update, don't vote for him. However, those of us who enjoyed the game over the other developers' works that were pitted against Mojang voted according to their conscience, and to portray that as anything else just disrespects our opinions.

Like it or not we thought it deserved to win. You don't; that's okay, there's plenty of room for disagreement here. Just don't disrespect our opinions like that. It's just not cricket.
 

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Because they haven't tried enough. They do not deserve the win, as I believe they have put enough effort in. Not that I'm saying they're being lazy with Minecraft, I'm simply saying we need more time to judge whether they're a good company or not. One good game a fantastic company does not make!
 

Archemetis

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I've never seen actual hatred flying around for that lovely little indie developer...

What I have seen however is plenty of the following:

'Sorry Mojang, but I can't deny my love for...'

Despite this though, they won.
So where's the hate?

If people were hating on them then they'd probably not have won.

Also, I'm not really all that boned up on March Mayhem (it's always seem like a real big waste of time to me) But am I right in assuming that Developers don't choose to participate?

In which case, any hatred towards the 'company with only one game' should be redirected at the Escapist for entering them and then maybe turn the hatred into just plain confusion.


ALSO! The people who're ragging on them for winning with only one (admittedly unfinished) game under their belt (because I know Mojang haters DO exist) They need to redirect their attention to the fact that Mojang was an overnight success thanks to that one game, They've got the money to develop other games now...

OH! and would you look at that...
They ARE!


Give 'em time guys, they're only a new company.
 

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My only problem is that they rarely update their fucking game and when they do its something small that probably didn't take 4 weeks.
THey update more than most developers!
 

Amondren

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I respect them for how they've come from nothing to something in this harsh AAA game run world
 

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Because we gamers as a community, are a bunch of pseudo-asperger cases with a massive aversion to change, if one of the big awesome companies that we held in our hearts didn't win, it's because naturally the other team was cheating or the voting system is broken or it's because of all the gosh-darned fanboi casual fuckheads who came in and voted for the bad game that HAS to be bad because we don't like it. Because ANYTHING is easier than admitting the fact that we are NOT ultra elite, super people with ultra elite super people opinions, and are instead a bunch of nerds who are just as stupid as they are clever. where we give you a complex mathematical equation and solve it in seconds, we also ***** because "OMGZ Game x is just a fucking time-sink all there is is derp and there is no herp like in my favourite game which is the best game ever because I like it and I am the smartest person ever. SO. FUCKING. SMRT. OMGZ."

After seeing the AMOUNT OF BUTTHURT and IMMATURITY that Mojang's victories have brought up from some "fairly clever" escapist forumgoers, This is the only conclusion I've come to. congratulations, you CHILDREN.

Maybe, just maybe, can we be glad that a small time guy beat a huge company with something so original and outlandish? no? okay then, enjoy 'Halo: Reach 2'