Why do people say that Capitalism is good?

[acosn]

I'd rather see the economy in the hands of smart, but greedy people rather than the government.


And Capitalism is actually a very good thing. It may sound bizarre but it put man on the moon, made the computer, the car, and air travel cheap, and generally makes your life better.

Anyone who tries to argue the opposite is better is either talking about some pie-in-the-sky ideal that isn't feasible or simply doesn't know any better.

 

[thahat]

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i live in the netherlands, we do have capitalism. but there is such a thing as social security.
you dont die if you CANT work. ( hell you wont even die if you WONT work cause our goverment is too soft ) and convincing someone your product is good is NOT easiers then actualy making a good one, at least, its not with people who actualy count. such as people who give you money to actually MAKE it.

also, you forget that stealing stuff has risks to it. you should take this into acount

 

[Littlee300]

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First of all pure capitalism is not perfect and their is no pure capitalism.
second capitalism is great because you have the freedom to succeed or the freedom to fail.

You think people only steal in capitalism? wow you are stupid, blaming capitalism for theft.

"But it's so much easier to convince people of the superiority of your product than it is to make a genuinely superior one." So you pick up a candy bar that was advertised as great but its tasted like shit. Are you going to pick up another one?

...why do you want the freedom to fail? Do you ever plan on exercising that freedom?

I didn't say Capitalism invented theft. I said it incentivizes it.

And what if you spent your life savings on that candybar? What if we're talking about a house or a car?

Line 1. He is trying to say that you have the freedom to do whatever you want, to being a bum or bill gates. (seriously you had to say that? You sound like such a smart ass.)
Line 2. Yeah incentives do that, what are you going to do make a law to stop it? I wait we already do that.
Line 3: Customer reviews or creating forum asking if the product is any good will prevent you from buying a bad product.

 

[Baby Tea]

And, since you mentioned this before, if there is no jobs in your area with the education you're getting? Move. I packed up and moved to Fort McMurray, Alberta to launch a radio station. I lived out of a huge duffel bag in somebody's basement for 4 months, living off of nothing but peanut butter, bread, milk, pizza pockets and coke (And the occasional sugar donut). And I didn't have a car, I used public transit...in Fort McMurray. But that crappy experience got the me the work experience I needed to land my awesome job now.

I addressed the moving issue in my first post too. I don't have the money to afford rent here, let alone somewhere bigger! I make $9.00/hr working part time, and I have another year here anyway, unless I want to pay a hell of a lot more to do three years at University. Personally, I think two years here, transferring that to count as the first two years of a degree, and a hell of a lot less debt is the better plan.

That's why I said 'with the education you're getting', meaning 'do this when your education is done and you're ready for your career'. Once you've got your degree, that's when you apply to jobs all over the country, not just in your area. And if you get offered a job in Northern Ontario, or PEI, you take it. In the mean time, you goto school, work your job, and save up what you can. That's how it goes. I worked crappy jobs a year and a half after I got my diploma. Sometimes you've just gotta. I still stand by everything else I posted.

 

[Anti Nudist Cupcake]

People think capitalism is good not for a reason but because they participate in it and it WORKS!!!!!

 

[Pearwood]

Either extreme, capitalist or communist, is inherantly flawed. Capitalism is flawed because it promotes a very vicious dog eat dog society but on the other hand it works. Communist is more idealistic but it's very prone to being taken advantage of by someone placing themselves in a position of power and taking everything for themselves

 

[Mr Godfrey]

It's not all it's cracked up to be, people are stupid. Next question.

Where did you hide the bodies?

... In the Ant Lion hive.

 

[Ciran]

Also, and I'm probably going to get yelled at for this, but there are such things as prodigies, and they happen over all socio-economic backgrounds, so it is not impossible for every poor person to be stuck the way they are, just most of them.

Yes. And since most people in general don't belong to the already well funded middle class, a capitalist society will ultimately meanthat most people are screwed. Telling the poor majority that all the "prodigies" out there will be able to somehow rise above the rest doesn't realy justify why capitalism should be considered "good", since it so clearly only caters to a small minority of people. Namely the people who areadly come from rich backgrounds, and the odd "prodigy" out there.

Also think of this, can you imaginwe how many poor prodigies there are out there just waiting to blossom, but they will never be able to since they are too poor to educate themselves into something better?

Due to the fact that the public education system is so bad, it's not a very unfounded assumption that the specialized talents and natural affainity that many poor people do have will go unnoticed. And since all these prodigies hae to worry about their very survival and thus dedicate most of their time and effort to flip burgers or clean buildings all day long, society in general will never be able to see these people come to their true potential.

Capitalism will ultimately squander away all the Albert Einsteins and Leonardo Da Vinci's that we could have, due to the very fact that they are born as poor people and thus will never have the time and resources to actually be able to pursue the specific areas of interests which they are true prodigies in.

So for every prodigy that might somehow get discovered and helped, there's most likely ten more going through life completely unnoticed and probably not even aware of their own talents, and for what? For just being poor and never getting a shot at finding outwhat they are best at.

So, like I said, capitalism is nothing but a big fucking catch 22 for the majority of people living under it.

So why should anyone admit that capitalism is supposed to be good? It's not very reasonable or logical at all..

Just off hand, do you quote only one of my arguments because the rest have merit, or do you just not want to take the time to refute all of them.

As for your whole argument here, you seem to be working off of the assumption that prodigies are common, which just isn't true, or even if it is that they all appear in the lowest class possible. You whole argument is based on the fact that we seem to have a significant portion of our geniuses begging for quarters on the streets, which has just as much merit as me saying that all prodigies are born to rich or middle class parents, and honestly, since those two demographics combined mostly outweigh the amount of people living in poverty, it seems fair that more often than not the Albert Einsteins and Leonardo Da Vincis would find their way to where they need to go.

Also, from the tone of your arguments you also seem to be saying that by "good" people mean better. That's not my argument at all. Actually I've been saying quite the opposite, which is that any economic system based on a "pure" economic philosophy will ultimately fail and that the only way to succeed is to combine the best parts of all economic ideas. My whole argument here is that Capitalism is just as "good" as any other economic idea when taken purely at what they state and failing to dilute it with parts of other systems to create a balance.