Why do people STILL bash FFX-2?

[Palademon]

So can't bash Fable by saying they're getting worse with each sequel?

 

[Chibz]

Because it's still a terrible game.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

Because it sucked perhaps? My dad who's a big FF fan never even bothered trying to finish this game.

good for him...
All final fantasies try to do something different.
they can't appease everyone, nor do i want them to. I love that square and now squenix doesn't give in to what people want, otherwise they would churn out boring repetitive identical rpg one after the other.
FFXIII tried something different, people didn't like it.
I don't care I quite like XIII. X-2 is no different.
Some people will like it, some won't.
i personally don't like the new one XIV, but alot of people do, so that's their opinion.
just because your dad's a hardcore ff fan doesn't mean he's right.
I've played the FF series since I was 6 years of age, my first game being VIII (which i still love despite all the bitching people do about it), it doesn't mean I'm right either.
X-2 doesn't "suck". you want a game that "sucks"? Play mystic quest or Children of Mana *shudder*, then maybe you'll appreciate X-2.
-Tabs<3-

They did something different yes. I can respect that they tried something different to try to innovate the series. But they failed, because the game really does suck. Just because they made something different doesn't excuse them from making a bad game.

 

[WorldCritic]

I've never played X-2 so I can't really say anything good or bad about it but from what I've seen it looks like it was made purely for fanservice in more than one obvious way.

 

[Clunks]

There are a tonne of reasons why FFX-2 is a legitimately, provably bad game (brilliant combat aside). But more to the point: of course it's held up to the standards of its predecessor - it's a direct sequel. The two are linked in our minds, and it has to be said that the connection is not simply arbitrary or imagined. They are both part of the same continuing storyline, set on the same worlds with some of the same characters.

Further clarification: you'll not find many who hate FFX-2 purely because it's different from FFX. Some, sure, because there are always idiots in every crowd, but not many. We're Final Fantasy fans. We follow a series which has always strived to make their games different from each other. We know the drill. Please don't try and use the difference between these two particular titles as some sort of magic deflector shield for valid criticism.

 

[Daedalus1942]

Because it sucked perhaps? My dad who's a big FF fan never even bothered trying to finish this game.

good for him...
All final fantasies try to do something different.
they can't appease everyone, nor do i want them to. I love that square and now squenix doesn't give in to what people want, otherwise they would churn out boring repetitive identical rpg one after the other.
FFXIII tried something different, people didn't like it.
I don't care I quite like XIII. X-2 is no different.
Some people will like it, some won't.
i personally don't like the new one XIV, but alot of people do, so that's their opinion.
just because your dad's a hardcore ff fan doesn't mean he's right.
I've played the FF series since I was 6 years of age, my first game being VIII (which i still love despite all the bitching people do about it), it doesn't mean I'm right either.
X-2 doesn't "suck". you want a game that "sucks"? Play mystic quest or Children of Mana *shudder*, then maybe you'll appreciate X-2.
-Tabs<3-

They did something different yes. I can respect that they tried something different to try to innovate the series. But they failed, because the game really does suck. Just because they made something different doesn't excuse them from making a bad game.

In your opinion... which, once again is purely subjective.
I don't like mystic Quest or Children of Mana. Do i think they're horrible games?
God yes, but someone out there most likely does like them. I'm yet to meet anyone who has but I'm sure that person exists.
Clearly some people (as you can see from above, it's not just only myself) enjoyed X-2 for what it was rather than doing the dubmshit thing and comparing it to X when they're nothing alike.
You're entitled to your opinion, but it is JUST an opinion, nothing more.
-Tabs<3-

 

[Daedalus1942]

Because it's still a terrible game.

All final fantasies try to do something different.
they can't appease everyone, nor do i want them to. I love that square and now squenix doesn't give in to what people want, otherwise they would churn out boring repetitive identical rpg one after the other.
FFXIII tried something different, people didn't like it.
I don't care I quite like XIII. X-2 is no different.
Some people will like it, some won't.
I personally don't like the new one XIV, but alot of people do, so that's their opinion.

I've played the FF series since I was 6 years of age, my first game being VIII (which I still love despite all the bitching people do about it), it doesn't mean I'm right either.
X-2 terrible. you want a game that's "terrible"? Play mystic quest or Children of Mana *shudder*, then maybe you'll appreciate X-2 a little more.
-Tabs<3-

 

[Daedalus1942]

I played it and it sucks, plain and simple.
The plot is weak (trying to find you-know-who only to be let down...), the characters are ridiculous (Sailor Moon transformations?wtf?) and the music nearly made my ears bleed. I have to admit that the combat system is fun, but that´s about it.

If I try to comparee it to its predecessor(s), X-2 looks even worse.

Actually...
[spoiler\]If you complete the game 100%, they actually do find you know who, because the aeons dream him back into existence and in a new game plus, he can join your blitzball team[/spoiler]
The first 3 or 4 hours is all dedicated to "girl power go yeah".
The rest of the game is actually alot of fun, and the sidequests kept me entertained for hours.
It sucks I had to do 3 playthroughs before I finally got 100% but the plot involving that was well worth it.
I'm guessing you didn't even bother finishing the game, so you wouldn't know that, right?
-Tabs<3-

 

[MaxFF7]

Right,
However, despite this I Believe X-2 has the BEST ability system in an RPG.

Let me Explain:
--> You have total control on who learns what abilities
--> The Ability list isn't restricted by the Level Cap (Stares at KOTOR)
--> All characters can be specced to learn any ability combo
--> The Abilities were the most diverse I've ever used.

This gives TOTAL FREEDOM over how you want the characters to develop,
want to use guns? you can.
Want to use Blue Magic? Yep.
Want a healer? Of course.

Also the combat was an improvement on the series (pity that 12 fucked it up) and the sidequests added depth to the game.

So to summarize: Story was Shite, Gameplay was surprising.

I don't see how X-2 ability system was any better than FF7. Every single ability in the game, from black magic, white magic, blue magic, summoning, stealing, etc was all given to characters by equipping materia. I can't say for certain which one has more abilities available, but in terms of customization of character abilities, I like the way 7 does it better than X-2.

 

[Amethyst Wind]

Well for my part I was expecting a fun game, regardless of whatever links it shared with FFX. It wasn't. I played all of two hours before I got bored sick and returned it.

So I'll bash it because I thought it was a bad game. Anything else is secondary to that.

 

[Blemontea]

X-2 was the first final Fantasy i ever played... and I found it boring, repetitive, had a wierd costume changing thing that was WAY to complicated for my small mind to understand, and the whole game felt like foreplay with its sexualised game character, the whole costume thing that has been burned into my subconscious.

Thankfully though it was a weekend rent and i got to return it and get Prince of Persia again.

 

[Gindil]

Final Fantasy X told a few stories, but to me there were three main themes running through it: Tidus' Daddy Issues, Auron's quest for redemption and (in my eyes actual main story) Yuna's quest to grow up and save the world. She was still a teenager in FFX and had lived in Besaid almost all her life. FFX told of her quest to save a people she didn't really know and the inevitable sacrifice that would come with it.

It ended with Yuna losing both her one remaining Father Figure (in Auron) and her lover (in Tidus), as well as numerous friends in her Aeons who sacrificed themselves to bring an end to it all. Sacrifice is perhaps the driving idea behind Yuna's quest in FFX. At first she is resolved that she will die in summoning the Final Aeon to bring the Calm, an act which she finds out would also turn one of her guardians into the new Sin. An alternative appears, and instead she gets to keep her life but loses a bunch of other stuff instead. It's sacrifice of a different kind.

Final Fantasy X-2, in my eyes, should have been Yuna coming to terms that Tidus is gone and there isn't always a 'Happily Ever After' ending, that sometimes people die and they don't come back - even in Spira. It should have shown her continuous growth as an independent character. In Final Fantasy X we saw her as an emotionally strong willed character. A bit ditsy at times, a tad naive and in need of help getting along, but strong regardless. FFX-2 switches that around - she turns into Action Chick physically but the entire game is spent pining after Her Man, catching onto anything - even incredibly flimsy things - which might indicate she can get him back.

FFX-2 represents nothing less than the systematic character destruction of Yuna, and the complete invalidation of FFX's ending. How can anyone call that a satisfying sequel?

I didn't even play FFX-2 because of the reasons you mentioned. Thing is with Paine being Lulu's younger counter, Rikku being Rikku (I hate the Genki Girl stereotype [yes, I've been in Japan way too long]), and Yuna getting a life but getting a Disney ending I was pretty much like, "Yeah, F--- this."

I didn't even know that Blitzball was managed a different way but damned if it wouldn't have been a great mini-title for say... $20 bucks... as a standalone action sports title.

I don't even think Kimahri got better at being expressive and the idea of the world not ending but being that much brighter because Yuna is now a pop star?

*breathes deeply*

And Don't. Get me started. On Blitzball...

 

[Eponet]

Wait, you've played not only this, but II, III, V, and even X, and VIII is your least favorite? Quite frankly, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Well ever since I watched my wife of fourteen years get cut down in cold blood by a clone of Hitler, I've always been a little screwed up.

And yeah, VIII is way worse than X.

But you're only 19!

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

It has a fantastic battle system and I love the "on the fly class changing", hell it's not even a BAD game, it's just kinda light silly and fluffy, like cotton candy.

 

[findler]

The staff at EB games (read Canadian Gamestop) laughed when I traded in X-2. Why? I never removed it from the shrink wrap.

 

[jodko]

It's been said before it was fan service and didn't improve on ffx regarding plot, charecters or anything other then a different combat system. also i keep hearing/reading people say tidus bitched a lot but i dont actually recall him bitching all that much or at all, so at what ppoints did he *****?

 

[Amnestic]

Wait, you've played not only this, but II, III, V, and even X, and VIII is your least favorite? Quite frankly, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Well ever since I watched my wife of fourteen years get cut down in cold blood by a clone of Hitler, I've always been a little screwed up.

And yeah, VIII is way worse than X.

But you're only 19!

20, according to my profile. Don't judge me because I married young. We were meant to be!