Why do Science fiction and Fantasy have to be mutually exclusive
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Wish I could help you, but it's been ages since I last played the PC-Game.Jekken6 said:
Even my last Arcanum tabletop round was way more than one year ago.
Time to get some buddies and play and/or install the game again. ;-)
They'd fill the ranks, yes, but they'd still need training. If you just threw them onto the front lines they'd be slaughtered, as happens in the very last episode (the name of which I can't remember. Chosen?). The demon clans they have treaties with are the dangerous ones; the harmless or non-evil ones are allies, as seen in that whole issue that was set underground. Big demon army, Slayer gets sent down to unite rival factions of nicer demons against them. It's safe to say that if the Slayers have had to make non-agression pacts, then the demons they've made them with are pretty damn aggressive. Also, Lorne was an exception; the rest of the Pyleans were pricks who treated humans as slaves and referred to them as cows.HG131 said:
Giles had a different past, yes, but he was also trained as a Watcher from the beginning. His father was a Watcher, and his whole "demon summoning teenage rebellion" thing was a way to escape becoming a Watcher. Faith's first Watcher was killed, but I'm not sure what your point is. Lots of Watchers die. Lots of Slayers die. Not to mention the fact she was killed by Kakistos, an incredibly ancient and powerful vampire. Yes, Post had been kicked out, but even before she got the glove she was a decent fighter, thanks to her Watcher training. Robin Wood wouldn't have inherited anything mystical; even if Slayer power was hereditary (which it isn't, according to the - canonical AFAIK - Tales Of The Slayers) he wouldn't have gotten any of it because he doesn't have a vagina. He was just extremely well trained by a Watcher, who (since they train Slayers and all) are presumably some of the best combat instructors in the world.HG131 said:
Yeah, I was actually referring to the comic book. I don't think she was needed most where she was called, since all that happened was a bunch of kids being turned and attacking a school dance, and some sort of Master-type vampire. Hardly apocalyptic. If whatever controls the choosing - The Powers That Be? - could see the future, they'd know that by the time LA went to Hell it would not only have a lot of badass guys fighting for the side of good, but that there would be thousands of Slayers worldwide, and that Buffy would be living in Scotland. Bear in mind that, if California is where Slayers are most needed, why was Kendra called in...wherever it was. Africa somewhere? Why was Faith called in whatever city she was in? It seems to be totally random, and then the Watchers later attribute it to there being a need. After all, if Slayers were always called where they were needed most, the Council would never need to send them anywhere, would they?HG131 said:
Bah, fuck, you're right. I have no idea why I thought it was Something Blue.HG131 said:
It couldn't have been Dawn's death that changed her, because Dawn did not exist to die. The monks who shaped the Key into human form didn't alter the timeline, they just altered the memories of the timeline. Dawn did not actually exist (as a human being) before the first episode of season 5, but all the characters have implanted memories of her being around. However, those memories are, in a way, non-canon.
Anyway, my reason for bringing up the episode was not how different Buffy was, but how Giles (as a mere Watcher) was expected by the council to actively take part in the resistance and fight the vampires. If him, why not everyone else? Even without a Slayer around, their duty is still to destroy demons.
What about it? Yes, the Disc features technology, but a lot of it is magical in origin rather than mechanical, like the DisOrganizer Imps.Redingold said:
Though nowadays the Discworld is moving forward technologically, the major non-magical innovations (such as semaphore for the clacks system) are from our history. Science fiction tends to speculate on technology from the future, not stuff we've had for hundreds of years.
Sure, but the rest of his race are bad guys, as far as we know. The same could go for Clem. I can't think of very many demon races who were entirely peaceful; even the demon family that Doyle's ex-wife was marrying into were going to eat Doyle's brain, albeit ceremonially.HG131 said:
Could have done, but apparently didn't. At the end of the day he's only human; well trained, well armed, but when he runs up against a powerful vampire (Spike) he still gets his head kicked in.HG131 said:
What if she was? The Council being what it is (or was), I don't think there is anywhere they couldn't get to, in this dimension or any other. Remember, the Watchers don't control the magic, or who gets chosen. They just find as many Potentials as they can and train them up just-in-case. They're bound to miss a few, who likely either died quickly or kept their powers a secret, depriving the world of a slayer for the rest of their lives.HG131 said:
What do you mean by "no longer fake"? If something powerful enough to reach back and permanently alter a timeline (AFAIK only Wolfram & Hart have shown that much power) went back and somehow caused Joyce to conceive Dawn? For what purpose? I'm confused.HG131 said:
Again, I'm confused about what you mean. Sure, it was one town. That town happened to have a Watcher in it, and the duty of the Watcher is to fight the demons and protect people even if there isn't a Slayer around to help, so he did it. I'm sure if the same thing had happened in Kenya or Portugal or Cuba, the majority of Watchers would have done the same.HG131 said:
