Why do they call them "Light" Machine Guns?

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Fraeir

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IronicBeet said:
I am proud to say that my very first thread on the Escapist is search-bar approved! (To the 4th page, anyway) This is a semi-serious question. Isn't calling it a Light Machine Gun, or a Minigun an oxymoron? Shouldn't sub-machine guns be Light, and Light Machine Guns be Heavy Machine Guns, or something to that accord? It doesn't make much sense at all.
To me it's like this:
Light Machine Gun - is one that can be carried by a single man.
Heavy Machine Gun - is mounted on a tripod, or a vehicle.

A minigun to me is synonymous with chaingun, the Vulcan bastards they mount in the nose of a A-10 Thunderbolt or the ones on the sides of a Black Hawk...
 

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Light machineguns are MGs with Riflerounds of "standart" caliber, like 5.56x45mm, 7,62x51mm, 5.45x39mm, 7.62x39/54 etc. They are portable by ONE man and are deployed with a bipod.
Medium machineguns are the same MGs as above, only on a Tripod, which might be carried by 2 men or more, and is more or less sationary. Best example, MG3 and M240, which can be deployed either with a Bipod as an LMG, or with a Tripod as MMG, but both weight a hefty 25pounds (circa) with ammo and without bipod, so they arent Light in a weight matter.

Heavy MGs are usually bejond the Assaultriflerounds, usually 12.7mm (.50cal) MGs in either 12.7x99mm NATO or 12.7x109mm Russian, which NORMALLY can´t be moved around, like the M2 on Tripod...
But the Russian KORD MG and the newest lightweight .50cal MG from the US are both light enough to be carried around and deployed by one man. Still heavy things and around 30pounds without ammo or so but still alot lighter then the M2...
The KORD has even been fired on the move, so "heavy" just depends on your body-strengh XD
There´s a vid of it on YT btw.

It,s just military jargon...a LMG can be a MMG too, a HMG can weight much less then some MMGs, its just a matter of deployment (bipod, tripod) or caliber (HMG)

And SMGs...well, that´s english for you...

And no, usually LMGs fire much faster then HMGs, because an HMG with a huge rate of fire would create so much recoil that even the tripod wouldn´t be enough to control it, so they are pretty slow.
 

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Fraeir said:
...the Vulcan bastards they mount in the nose of a A-10 Thunderbolt...
That Vulcan Bastard is called the GAU-8 Avenger...Sexy thing.
And they didn´t mount it to the nose of the A-10, they build the Plane AROUND the gun...
 

Ocelot GT

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"Why do they call them light machineguns?"

Because they have half the calories of a heavy machinegun :3
 

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if carried by one person- light machine gun. Examples: M-60, M249 SAW

If mounted on a vehicle/in a fixed position- heavy machine gun. Examples: M2 .50 cal, M1917 Browning
 

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Last of the Chinchillas said:
I'm pretty sure that's the point: an attempt at being ironic and comical.

"Minigun, huh? Why we should use that name for our most terrifying weapon!"
"Why, sir?"
"Because the enemy will be all like, 'Psshh! It's got mini in the name, so how bad can it be', and then we'll break it out and it'll be all like 'SWEET JESUS, RUN TO THE HILLS!"
"Sir, have you been taking your medication?"
You, sir, win the internet for that.
 

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Light machine guns are lighter than other machine guns, hence they're "light."

Miniguns are a lot more smaller than other Gatling-guns in use like the ones in A-10s and Phalanx CIWSs, hence they're "mini."

Sub_par said:
i believe minigun is an eponym (named after a person) but i could be wrong
Imagine a guy named "Minigun" going to school. Yeah... a lot of bullying would ensue.
 
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L3m0n_L1m3 said:
Last of the Chinchillas said:
I'm pretty sure that's the point: an attempt at being ironic and comical.

"Minigun, huh? Why we should use that name for our most terrifying weapon!"
"Why, sir?"
"Because the enemy will be all like, 'Psshh! It's got mini in the name, so how bad can it be', and then we'll break it out and it'll be all like 'SWEET JESUS, RUN TO THE HILLS!"
"Sir, have you been taking your medication?"
You, sir, win the internet for that.
The entire internet?

The power! THE POWER!
 

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Pararaptor said:
I know a Minigun is called so because the bullets are smaller than most, but that's all I have.
Yeah, the minigun got its name because it fires smaller shells (less than half the size) than similar weaponry.

Light machine guns follow the same rule, with some additions. Light machine guns are typically smaller caliber than medium machine guns and are mounted on bipods where as medium machine guns are mounted on tripods. Any machine gun of 10mm caliber or higher are typically just considered a heavy machine gun
 

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Light machine guns are man portable heavy assault weapons.

In a fire team, they usually account for 70% of the firepower of the entire team, depending on the weapon and team build. (US SAW)

A submachine gun is much smaller, firing a smaller caliber round with a smaller clip size and lower weight. (P60)

A heavy machine gun is a mounted device that fires very large caliber weapons. The 50cal on a Humvee, or the machine guns mounted on a tank or helicopter typically are heavy machine guns, though sometimes LMGs are mounted there instead.

I was an infantry soldier in the US Army and we had to train in what these weapons were.
 

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Because unlike the deathstar these machines which shoot have not turned to the dark side (yet)
 
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As far as I remember, LMGs are man portable, MMGs are bipod/tripod mounted, and HMGs are helicopter/jeep/tank mounted.

What we call a machine gun is technically a repeating rifle or automatic rifle, not a machine gun. The term machine gun refers originally to a gun driven by machine power, not recoil power (machine power originally meaning the hand crank that had to be used). The term has since come to mean any repeating weapon.
 

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Slaanax said:
Wiki says minigun is Gatling Gun scaled down to fire rifle caliber bullets.

John Gatling created the first Multibarrelled Machine Gun back in American Civil War.
He was a pacifist who wanted to create a weapon so fierce it would end all fighting.
Did anyone ever tell him that he failed most heinously?

Jeez, did the atomic bomb stop anyone fighting? What a douche.
 

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A mini gun is called a minigun because it is a mini version of one of these:
see how small and cure it is by comparison?
 

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They're just strange things that people do to name things.

Like Watford gap being nowhere near Watford.
 

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Chrinik said:
Fraeir said:
...the Vulcan bastards they mount in the nose of a A-10 Thunderbolt...
That Vulcan Bastard is called the GAU-8 Avenger...Sexy thing.
Indeed it is, I didn't know the cannon (not exaggeration) was called GAU-8 Avenger though, I mixed it up with the M61 Vulcan gatling gun, so I stand corrected.