Why do we assume UFO/Aliens are always hostile?

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Zantos

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SextusMaximus said:
Cause otherwise War of the Worlds would be a fucking short movie.
I was thinking just the same thing, except with Independence Day.

MorganL4 said:
sextus the crazy said:
1. Aliens are a good target as they are foreign and there is no morality attached to killing them

2. Because we assume aliens act like we do.
My hope is that if a race develops interstellar travel, they will have advanced enough to see how senseless killing one another over things like land, religion, and resources is.
It's a good hope, however the other side of this would be that the dominant group on their planet strip mined their resources while murdering everyone who disagreed. Then, facing their self-inflicted extinction they developed the means to travel to other planets and continue their vicious greed. I'm not saying either is more likely, but I'd totally rather watch the film with the vicious murderous aliens.
 

Savryc

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Because applying human logic and morals to alien life makes total sense.
 

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The easy answer is because we expect them to act the same way any culture did when they went to a different country and found the people their weaker and less technologically advanced. They aren't as advanced as we are, so we can just take their stuff.
 

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Protien and Chloroplast are quite possibly the two most limited resources in the entire universe. I only know of one planet in this entire solar system that has the stuff, and there are probably millions of systems out there that doesn't have a planet in the short band around it's sun that can cultivate it.

The idea of intergalactic Spaniards finding their equivilent of gold in our bodies is chilling to say the least.
 

sextus the crazy

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MorganL4 said:
sextus the crazy said:
1. Aliens are a good target as they are foreign and there is no morality attached to killing them

2. Because we assume aliens act like we do.
My hope is that if a race develops interstellar travel, they will have advanced enough to see how senseless killing one another over things like land, religion, and resources is.

Using that clip never gets old.

In all seriousness though, It's unlikely that that sort of thing would happen unless the singularity already hit for said civilization and even then I wouldn't count them out.
 

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Siege_TF said:
Protien and Chloroplast are quite possibly the two most limited resources in the entire universe. I only know of one planet in this entire solar system that has the stuff, and there are probably millions of systems out there that doesn't have a planet in the short band around it's sun that can cultivate it.

The idea of intergalactic Spaniards finding their equivilent of gold in our bodies is chilling to say the least.
If that's the case, then we're just in the way as a species. After all, as higher level biological organisms, our return on initial growth is pretty terrible. They'd kill us all just for the protein, but they would probably harvest lower level organisms, like insects. Less energy to grow a fly than a man.
 

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Because it's human nature to assume that everything that we don't understand is a threat. Besides when it comes to science fiction it makes for better story telling, after all every story needs an antagonist.

EDIT: ...and certainly extra terrestrials aren't going to complain about discrimination or political correctness when used AS antagonists.
 

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For the same reason we assume robots will turn on mankind the moment they gain sentience. Same reason most mythological creatures have sharp teeth and a taste for human. It makes for a better movie.

I doubt most people actually believe aliens would be hostile. If so, why would we be sending out so many messages trying to contact them?

TheTim said:
I would rather assume them hostile and find out they're not, then assume they're friendly only to find out they have some extermination plan for humanity.
But if they are friendly you wouldn't want to accidentally do something to anger/scare them and start a needless war. It's like what Teddy Roosevelt said "Speak softly and carry a big stick".
 

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Because it's always fun to respond with:

SOMETHING DIFFERENT!! DESTROY IT!!!

That and paranoia keeps one alive, so we tend to fall back onto it.
 

ThatGuy

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Stephen Hawking theorized that any aliens advanced enough to be space-faring and to actively seek us out would probably be hostile. According to him, they would be nomads, looking to colonize planets.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/Space/stephen-hawking-alien-contact-risky/story?id=10478157#.ULLUGuSsiSo

On the other hand, he also said that given the huge size of the universe and the relatively rare set of circumstances that could give rise to life, it's unlikely that we'll ever meet any aliens. Either us or them will be long gone before we get the chance to make contact.
 

Zeckt

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Nobody wants to watch movies about aliens coming to earth and shaking our hands. It's BORING.
 

Olrod

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Look at human history, especially when meeting other cultures for the first time.

Now extend that logic to aliens meeting humans for the first time and you have your answer.
 

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SinisterGehe said:
I been just thinking while watching some really bad TV-documentary about aliens.
Simple question came to mind: "Why do we always assume that alien creature will be hostile towards us?"
Question is interesting in my opinion - so what you think?

Also we are not please do not open the discussion about do they exist - it leads nowhere. This is more of psychological/philosophical discussion about the behavior we have towards aliens.

Is it just the Pop-culture? Or do we really think that whatever is out there is out to kill us - no discussion of motives. Just that they are hostile by default.

In my opinion: If someone spends milenia and massive amount of resources to find another living and thinking creature, they aren't going to wipe out what they find just because... It doesn't seem logical.

So what you think.

Solvemedia: "No brainer" - fitting in my opinion.
I think a lot of it is projection, based off our own experiences with ourselves. Nearly every time an advanced group of humans has traveled to a new land, one of the first things they do is wipe out the more primitive indigenous population. Whether that's through outright genocide, or enslavement, or unintentional disease tends to vary from case to case. I mean, one of the first great accomplishments of homo sapiens was wiping out the three or so other human species that inhabited Earth at the same time.

Granted, this was the work of more primitive civilizations, with much different, often much more brutal, worldviews. But the fear is still there, the fear that we'll encounter other lifeforms and they will be a bit too much like us for comfort. I do think assuming an interstellar species will behave like pre-industrial civilizations is kind of unrealistic... but post-industrial and modern humans have done all kinds of horrible stuff to each other too.

Now, I will admit that the most common justification for an alien invasion that "they want our resources" is pretty silly. Space is massive, and it's literally full of resources. Why waste the time and effort to invade a world purely for resources you could find on a million uninhabited moons, or could be pulled from the atmosphere of gas giants, or from planets otherwise unsuited for colonization? It's just silly to think that a space-faring species would put boots on the ground on Earth over, like, gold, or some shit, when it's literally floating around everywhere.

The only reasonable scenario for aliens to invade Earth is, well, if they want it. Colonists, basically. Even that is extremely situational and depends on factors we can't know, like just how many Earth-like planets are out there, how common they are, how far apart are they spaced out? It would also depend on the tech of aliens in question too. If their FTL tech is good enough, and Earth-like worlds are common enough, there's really no reason to waste time wiping out a species over it.

Or maybe they find us and it just turns out they're a bunch of assholes? That is also a possibility. Could be a culture based around domination and/or slavery. Although, there is the possibility that most cultures like that would simply wipe themselves out before achieving interstellar status. It's all an interesting thought experiment to be sure.
 

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Stuntcrab said:
Just great, I was thinking up a good speech about the fact that they would most likely be like us but it seems everyone has come to the same conclusion, well screw it I don't care I'm telling it anyway.

Just like everyone is saying, if they found us they would probably have better technology than us, and be smarter than us which will lead to the same scenario that the American civilizations had gone through. Also if we had found them first then it would the same scenario except we would Columbus/the Spanish rather than the Americans.

To summarize it would be the same as the exploration of the Americas except in the 21st century rather than the 15th.
I don't get why everyone assumes a species so advanced would have the culture of our barbaric ancestors.

We're slowly heading away from "KILL EVERYTHING THAT IS DIFFERENT SO WE CAN LIVE THERE" mindset, and I imagine when we encounter an alien race on their turf some thousand years in the future, we won't repeat our colonial history.

I don't see any reason to think aliens will *likely* be like our past selves. Could they be? Oh yeah, definitely. I just put the chances at under 50%.
 

DrunkenMonkey

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I would assume its because of our tendency to fear the unknown, guess what alien visitors that come from places that we wouldn't even have dreamt of qualifies as the unknown, so yeah fear of the unknown, booga booga...

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I'll stop talking now
 

Kargathia

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... Who told you they are hostile? *goes back to watching stupid movies and munching popcorn with his Gwiiiilapian interstellar exchange student*
 

Eddie the head

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We assume they are like us. Witch might be a wrong assumption if they evolved like the Bonobo. For those who don't know a bonobo will share food in a survival situation where as it's in human nature not to. So it's mostly that we assume they are like us. And might not be, they could come form a place where things are plentiful, so there is no need for selfishness. On the flip side they could be worse then us as well.

I think people look at the history of earth and think that any aliens will react in the same way as humans would. And well they are not forum earth. What I am saying is I don't know how aliens would react, and niter do you.

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Zeckt said:
Nobody wants to watch movies about aliens coming to earth and shaking our hands. It's BORING.
Not if it's a cook book.