Why do you suppose Canada is never a civilation choice in the Civilation games?

[ccggenius12]

Yes you can find it funny. As long as I can find it funny that Canada took Vimy Ridge. And cleared Juno Beach in two hours, you pussy.

Sheesh, no need for name calling, as my post clearly stated, I know little of Canada, exempting what American pop-culture shows me. (I blame the fact that Michigan is blocking my view, but that's neither here nor there.) I'm aware that a large portion of it is inaccurate, or exaggerated, but to be fair, so are video games. And you have to admit, to someone who is not as familiar with Canada as you evidently are, when that was the first thing presented in this thread as a Canadian accomplishment, you can see why that could be considered funny, given the number of posts prior to it.
As far as the stuff related to WWII, you're welcome to find those things funny. Presumably in the context that it took the US far longer to take care of their business. I know we contributed far less to said war than our educational system would like us to believe. (well, it's not overstating our contribution, so much as glossing over the contributions of pretty much everyone else.)
As an American, it stands to reason that I know more about my country of origin than I do of any other. With that being said, I'm aware that I'd presented stereotypes, and I'd hoped that at least the majority of the community here would get that. Given that only 2 posters have misconstrued my statements as something other than farce, I can only assume I accomplished that.

PS. If it makes you feel better, I'm of the belief that the stereotypes persist because we'd rather not think about a well armed nation sitting directly north of us. I don't think I've ever seen mention of the Canadian military in our media, but I know it exists. And as for a silly accomplishment on our military's part, how about this, <a href=http://idealab.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/11/shrinky-dinks-manufacturing-process-developed.php>We're militarizing Shrinky Dinks.

 

[Owen Robertson]

Yes you can find it funny. As long as I can find it funny that Canada took Vimy Ridge. And cleared Juno Beach in two hours, you pussy.

Sheesh, no need for name calling, as my post clearly stated, I know little of Canada, exempting what American pop-culture shows me. (I blame the fact that Michigan is blocking my view, but that's neither here nor there.) I'm aware that a large portion of it is inaccurate, or exaggerated, but to be fair, so are video games. And you have to admit, to someone who is not as familiar with Canada as you evidently are, when that was the first thing presented in this thread as a Canadian accomplishment, you can see why that could be considered funny, given the number of posts prior to it.

Yes. Evidently the /sarcasm tag is becoming more and more necessary. Sarcastica needs to be a font. Reversed italics. I wasn't trying to antagonize or make fun. In my opinion, Operation: Neptune would've been much bloodier if the United States wasn't involved. Forces would've been spread even more thin, and that's just good news for the Jerries.

Goddamn Nazis. Ruined my day. /Sarcasm (but not exactly)

 

[Misterian]

I want to think it might be the same reason nations like Denmark or Babylonia never becomes options, Canada in the eyes of the developers doesn't stick out well enough historically to be a contender.


But then, the only Civilization games I really played were Civilization Revolution, and Snes port on my emulator, and a certain PC Civ game (I forget when it was released.). And even then I saw the Aztecs and what seems like an obscure African tribe called The Zulu as Civilizations, so I guess that's not really the case.

 

[ccggenius12]

Yes. Evidently the /sarcasm tag is becoming more and more necessary. Sarcastica needs to be a font. Reversed italics. I wasn't trying to antagonize or make fun. In my opinion, Operation: Neptune would've been much bloodier if the United States wasn't involved. Forces would've been spread even more thin, and that's just good news for the Jerries.

Goddamn Nazis. Ruined my day. /Sarcasm (but not exactly)

Not gonna lie, I was half expecting you to rip my face off and shit fiery hate words down my word hole in the return post. The internet is funny like that. Great to hear it was all in good fun though. I suppose I should blame myself for this though. I posted a less than serious post, and failed to consider that the replies could also be less than sincere. Oh well, live and learn.

I will justify America's inclusion in Civ 5 by saying this though, the game is published by an American Company, presumably targeting Americans as their primary audience. And a large quantity of Americans would probably be confused if they couldn't play as America, as obviously, "America is clearly the best thing since sliced bread." If my theory about the target demographic holds, then the American stereotype of Canadians as sub-Americans is probably to blame for their exclusion.

Also, I'd support Australia as a playable nation. It was colonized by criminals that England didn't want to deal with, and is covered in species that will kill you in horrible ways. Instead of a special unit, they could just cause an enormous penalty to people assaulting Australia.

 

[mrhappy1489]

Yeah, I dunno. It would be cool, but we don't have any influence anywhere besides Canada. Nobody cares about us. We could disapear and no one would notice.

I will say that if you did disappear many countries would notice. I'm not Canadian but I do know they produce a LOT of energy based things such as coal, oil and uranium. They may not be a superpower but there is discussion about allowing them to be an energy superpower. Just putting it out there.

 

[flamingjimmy]

Because Canada is just one of Britain's colonies and has never had an empire of its own.

 

[The_Vigilant]

The fact that Canada isn't featured is not stupid. You know what is, though? The fact that the United States of America is.

How dare you! America was in the hearts of all mankind from the very beginning. Freedom. McDonald's. Mission Accomplished.

 

[Darkmantle]

I haven't read most of the topic, but I do know the Canadians were the only ones to achieve all of their objectives in time during the D-Day landings.

Yay Canada.

I'm glad I'm not the only person who knows that

Doesn't Hiawatha technically count as Canadian?

Does Canada have anything that would count as a wonder?

Hiawatha would be Canadian I suppose, at least he was in more or less the same area.

And we have the CN tower, which I believe is still the tallest building in the world.

also we have had 1 pretty well known leader, only 1 I would put in a civ game, Pierre Trudeau.

during The October Crisis:
"Trudeau presented a determined public stance during the crisis, answering the question of how far he would go to stop the terrorists with "Just watch me""

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Trudeau

I mean come on, that's pretty awesome!

 

[Robert Ewing]

I don't think Canada should be in there, for the same reason I don't think the US should be there.

Why take a country that's only a few hundred years old, and stick it in 3000BC? It just seems like such a poor attempt by the developers to pay their hourly salute to the stars and stripes by including them in the game at all.

It's just so surreal having them in there...

You have all these really great nations that are famous for being ancient, yet still very prolific. The Indians, Chinese, Japanese, French, English, Native Americans and their casino's, Russians, etc etc. And then you get the USA. Why? Why? It would make perfect sense if the race sort of just... formed half way through the game, like other nations that haven't existed until then, such as Canada, Latin American countries w/e.

Tbh, I just uncheck their race in my games, because I don't want to damage my face from face palming every time I meet them for the first time.

 

[Zeterai]

As far as military superpower, I don't think we really would fit that. Our troops are extremely well trained, but we just don't have enough of them to make the impact that a 'superpower' would be expected to. That of course stems from our overall lack of people - we're the second largest country in the world (behind Russia), but we also have one of the lowest population densities. Plus we're more interested in peacekeeping and general humanitarianism than fighting actual wars.

What we do have are massive amounts of natural resources. We own the majority of the world's fresh water, and our coal, oil, gas, and uranium deposits supply a very large chunk of the global demand, as does our timber industry. I haven't ever played a Civ game, so I don't know if that counts, though.

Then again, the few times we have gotten into a war the other side always ends up pretty badly mauled - Nazi troops respected allied forces, but they FEARED Canadian troops, to the point that Hitler himself appointed SS guards to the Vimy Ridge memorial to make sure nobody defaced it when the area was occupied.

If it's talking 'prehistoric' history though, no.. Canada probably shouldn't be featured. Perhaps if they used native tribes, but like with the US, those didn't really evolve upwards into the current day country, they were displaced by it.

 

[Owen Robertson]

Also, I'd support Australia as a playable nation. It was colonized by criminals that England didn't want to deal with, and is covered in species that will kill you in horrible ways. Instead of a special unit, they could just cause an enormous penalty to people assaulting Australia.

Enormous penalty is death by Emu, Croc, & Roo?

 

[Orange12345]

Because there would be no way to balance the game, canada would always win (jking, though I have also been wondering this for a while to)

 

[ccggenius12]

Enormous penalty is death by Emu, Croc, & Roo?

Nah, death by drop bear. Damn things are vicious.