Why does America fear/distrust it's government?

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player3141

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The government has a tendency to screw things up and they don't like to leave things the way it is. When the government involved, it usually ends with the problem still existing and a lot of money wasted. Their solutions are generally along the lines of "GIVE TEHM MOAR MONEY!", "raise taxes again", or "we should have a law preventing this".

The Eyeball Moose said:
I was taught by my parents that the Republican party is a team of evil, lying, hypocritical douchebags who constantly try to wiggle around the rules that were made when the nation was formed.
This accurately describes all politicians.
 

Vee.

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The constitution states that a person is allowed free speech within reason. Anyone here in the U.S. who yells "it's a bomb!" and causes panic in a situation that doesn't call for it would be arrested.

On a different note, I'd say people distrust the government because of the way politicians are trying to pass off politics nowadays. For example: Obama's health care plan was legally over 70% unconstitutional because of all the extra gunk that was written in the bill. It was labeled a health care bill, but it had a bunch of unrelated mess about missile defense grids for other countries or something.

The existence of people like Bill O'Reilly doesn't help much either.

Edit: This was supposed to be a reply to Orangeban. I don't know why it didn't come out that way.
 

jackknife402

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Sorry, this kind of turned into a rant. :p

It's this attitude of "Screw the government" that most Americans seem to have. They object to paying even reasonable taxes, despise their government, whoever's in charge, and fight every single piece of legislation like their lives rely upon it.

To an extent, they have a point, in that the system is so ridden by corruption and incompetence, but then the problem becomes the society surrounding the government, and the people that are running it.

Americans ***** that they don't want the government running things, but the fact is that the government is the sole organization in their entire fucking country with an interest in actually helping them, as opposed to screwing them for all that they're worth.

I mean, if you don't want healthcare in the hands of the government, then no one at all is going to take it up. Look, fuck the people who are too short-sighted to see this. I love America, but it can really drive me up the wall sometimes.

Not everything the government does is done to hurt you. No, the government does not exist specifically to screw you. In fact, it's about the only thing out there trying to help you.

Okay, I'm riled up now, so one more thing. What the FUCK is with your tax rate? You guys wonder why your economy is fucked? The highest tax bracket kicks in at over a third of a million dollars, and it's only thirty five fucking per cent! You wonder why your economy is fucked? It's because you're fucking it! The media feeds your population a load of horseshit, and they swallow it whole.

Please, America. I love you guys, but stop bitching about your government, and work with them, for once. They are, theoretically at least, you, and yet you fight them every step of the way.

No, blind obedience to whatever the government wants is not good, but neither is fighting them every step of the way. There is a middle ground, believe it or not.
The reason why we're fighting government sanctioned healthcare is much are as follows: After the next five years everyone has to be insured, those whom do not want to be insured must pay a fine. The government program was promised to lower rates and overall spending, not skyrocketting spending another trillion U.S. dollars in a single year and it hasn't even been put into effect yet.

Those are the only points I care about, and they're the two points that piss me off the most. They're mandating citizens to purchase health insurance, and as to cutting costs that went out the window three months after the bloody thing passed.

Talk to employers, most are afraid to hire because they don't know what sort of expense is going to be breathing down their necks from one month to the next.

The sort of government I want is the sort of government that does not infringe upon it's people's rights. A government's duty is only to be a coalition for the protection of it's people; Be it by law or by military strength. It is not supposed to buy up stock in failing companies, print excess amounts of paper "money" to "boost" the economy, and it is not supposed to force people to buy what they don't want.

That's why I'm unhappy with my government, that and it pulls funds from our social security system and uses it for other pet projects and allows idiots to buy Mt. Dew, chips (or crisps to you UKers) and TV dinners on government aide programs while the idiots spend the money they do make on alcohol and tobacco.

In my state we have a state run food program for mothers and children where they are given a set list of items of what they can have, cereals, eggs, milk, fruits and veggies. That is how our bloody food stamp program should be, not some "Here's a card for $500 a month, go buy party food with it then whine like a ***** to the store clerk when you're out of money for actual food."
 

t3h br0th3r

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Please remember this Europe:

America was founded by mildly insane regious fanatics who forced African slaves to do all the hard laobur as soon as they could get them.

We made England barely any money and went to battle against them when they tried to make the colonies break even with them.

a few years later we came up with some BS called Manifest destiny as an excuse for genocide.

a few years after that we won WWII witn a RL Deus Ex Machina


Yes: We American's are straight up crazy at times.
 

Pyroguekenesis

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You serious?
After seeing the amount of **** the American Government pulls off, I am not suprised. Have you seen some of the news lately? There was a protest at Jefferson's memorial for free speech and people were arrested for dancing there. There was also an incident where the...actually I'll just link them. =_=; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ0bPt0fQV4

Like for instance, I do not truly believe that Obama Bin Laden caused 9/11, was killed etc.

And then, you have the media. Bloody idiots like Bill O'Reilly who can't report the 'news' anymore cause it's been so censored that you have to go online find stuff out.

In my case, take a look at the Australian government. We have a leader who backstabbed her way into the position, then she went back on all of her promises on this Carbon Tax thing (which I would agree on, if I could trust the government to be wise with it's use. But now I did some extra researching we have screwed the planet past saving point, so I dont care anymore).

So, in conclusion. I do not trust any kind of government or law.
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson.

Viva la revolution! :D
 

Starke

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aei_haruko said:
To quote my favorite Author, Mr. George Orwell.
"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutly"
Idk, that help?
Orwell may have agreed with it, but it was Lord Acton chewing out British Parlement who originated that aphorism.
 

Dyme

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In a democracy, you should distrust your government.

But of course health care (health, life) is something you want your state/government to care about. Just like the army. I wouldn't want a private capitalist company having an army.
The government cares about me, because they want my vote every 4 years.
Private companies just want money. No morals, no humanity involved here. Sounds pretty bad for health care.
 

striderkiwi

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as an american I'd like to give my somewhat authoritative opinion on this. I don't trust the American government, but I also don't trust ANY government. Why? Because I've learned that trusting in anyone you don't know well enough to call them a friend is a foolish mistake.
 

Gamblerjoe

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ignorance as the result of misinformation and gullibility. in other words Glen Beck.

our hatred of the government is really just an extension of our hatred for ourselves and each other.
 

utopaline

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Hammeroj said:
Because people are convinced the government controlling healthcare would somehow "fuck it up". Even ignoring the fact that the health care is fucked up as is, I don't understand their line of thought.
It's because the people that are fighting universal health care are rich and have GREAT health care.
- the rich don't want the tax increase
- the rich don't want your kid to get the same care as their rich little twit
- the rich all vote

want to change things. POOR PPL NEED TO VOTE
and by poor I mean anyone that makes under 250,000 a year, that seems to be what republicans think rich means

uto
 

utopaline

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I also love how noone points out the blood sucking health care companies. They want to make money. Health care makes money.(well lack of care)

uto
 

Falconus

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Anyone who doesn't have a healthy level of distrust and willingness to question authority isn't doing their damn job as a citizen.
 

aei_haruko

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Starke said:
aei_haruko said:
To quote my favorite Author, Mr. George Orwell.
"Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutly"
Idk, that help?
Orwell may have agreed with it, but it was Lord Acton chewing out British Parlement who originated that aphorism.
hey, Thanks! Waddya know, learn something new everyday. Heck I agree with it, so long as it makes sense and all, thanks man,
Joe