Hate is a strong word, really. What I am more annoyed by is the fanboy-ism around it. It's really not a bad game (I would not have been willing to beat the first one in one sitting if it wasn't), I just get annoyed when people say that it's this huge amazing revolutionary title.
Why does everyone hate Halo?
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You know... thats been the popular answer so far, so why you feel the need to quote me and lecture me I have no idea, though its rather unappreciated since i gave a personal and more focused answer.Netrigan said:
I don't.
Neither does our very own Halo Fans Group [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/groups/view/Halo-Fans].
I just don't think it's better than CoD or anything. Still a stellar shooter.
1: I hate it because of the online community being full of immature people who can't stand to lose, or when they win they think that it gives them the right to rub it in everyone else's face.
2: I've played it more then 5 minutes and I still hate the gameplay. I own ODST and I played Reach/Halo 3, but I gotta say it's quite the arcadish game series.
3: Most people dislike Halo, simply because they don't like it. The only thing making us hate it more, is all these people whining and going "Well you just don't like it because it's popular". By that logic alone, that means that 'Justin Bieber' makes good music, 'Paris Hilton' is loved by everyone, and 'Fox news is right about videogames causing rape'.
4: The only people who whine about people not liking what they like, are the same people who are simply trying to justify calling other people hipsters because they are too obsessed with their own game series to realize that people don't HAVE to like Halo.
5: And saying a game sucks doesn't make you hipster or non-Mainstream. Hipster culture is DEAD. In the past being a Hipster was just you being different then everyone else, you couldn't become one by choice, you just were different then everyone else. Anyone who identifies as being a Hipster or non-Mainstream is in-fact not a Hipster and IS Mainstream.
6: I don't have issue with Halo itself or the people who play it, just the people who insist that the people who dislike it are wrong.
2: I've played it more then 5 minutes and I still hate the gameplay. I own ODST and I played Reach/Halo 3, but I gotta say it's quite the arcadish game series.
3: Most people dislike Halo, simply because they don't like it. The only thing making us hate it more, is all these people whining and going "Well you just don't like it because it's popular". By that logic alone, that means that 'Justin Bieber' makes good music, 'Paris Hilton' is loved by everyone, and 'Fox news is right about videogames causing rape'.
4: The only people who whine about people not liking what they like, are the same people who are simply trying to justify calling other people hipsters because they are too obsessed with their own game series to realize that people don't HAVE to like Halo.
5: And saying a game sucks doesn't make you hipster or non-Mainstream. Hipster culture is DEAD. In the past being a Hipster was just you being different then everyone else, you couldn't become one by choice, you just were different then everyone else. Anyone who identifies as being a Hipster or non-Mainstream is in-fact not a Hipster and IS Mainstream.
6: I don't have issue with Halo itself or the people who play it, just the people who insist that the people who dislike it are wrong.
I hate it because it doesn't deserve the amazing popularity it get, but it is by no means a bad game.
Because they don't like it?
It's decidedly average (yes, in my opinion, before all you fuckers jump on my back), which is probably what gives it much of it's popularity and hate.
I've also got a personal beef with reviews who like each game for being "exactly the same as before". And yes, I have seen that.
Of course, you're not allowed to just dislike stuff because you think it's decidedly average, so what really must be going on is that you're trying to look "cool" by ragging on something that's popular.
It's decidedly average (yes, in my opinion, before all you fuckers jump on my back), which is probably what gives it much of it's popularity and hate.
I've also got a personal beef with reviews who like each game for being "exactly the same as before". And yes, I have seen that.
Of course, you're not allowed to just dislike stuff because you think it's decidedly average, so what really must be going on is that you're trying to look "cool" by ragging on something that's popular.
Why do I personally dislike the Halo series?pletschee said:
A. Lack of innovation in the series since the first game (they all feel the same to me, I've beaten all of them)
B. Story shows glimpses of being interesting then refuses to go more in-depth on them (understandable considering the audience, it just annoys me personally)
C. Has sold unbelievable well when much more innovative and interesting games were being ignored
D. The first major step from developing shooters for the pc to moving them onto the consoles (and then porting them poorly onto the PC and expecting me to be okay with it)
E. I expected the moon from Reach and was sorely disappointed.
So, C,D and E are not entirely the developers fault (E mostly is though), but A and B are enough to turn me off the series. It's not really that they're bad games, they're just.. weak. Just not my cup of weak tea.
Those figures dont reflect when games are returned because someone didnt like them, and that numbers something of overinflated when certain Xbox's came witht he game, especially halo 3 release packs, and that Halo's one of the few games iwth any decent online play on the 360.MasochisticMuse said:
Besides, you can buy the game and not like it, just so you can play with others. I bought the newer battlefield just cause that was the big thing, but then I didnt care for it and sold it back after most of my friends realized they didnt care for it either.
Because it's not made by Valve. If it was owned by them instead of (the supposedly "evil") Microsoft, it would be the most popular game on the Escapist.
In other words, damn hipsters who feel it's wrong for one company to make money but perfectly fine for another to as long as they aren't seen as "the man" (or some such nonsense).
In other words, damn hipsters who feel it's wrong for one company to make money but perfectly fine for another to as long as they aren't seen as "the man" (or some such nonsense).
Personally I loved the first one, it was a lot of fun. The reason why I started to dislike Halo was because the story got worse, the gameplay didn't do anything, and it was just bland. It became a mediocre fps, with a bunch of spin offs that were also mediocre at best, yet remained popular because of, in my opinion, fanboys who just couldn't let master chief go. After the second halo and it's horrible 6 hours of gameplay and cliff hanger, I never bought another. I rented them, just to see what happened, and remain unimpressed.
*On another note, multiplayer is worthless in my opinion just because of the xbox live community.
** Halo 3 would have been good if master chief actually died.
*On another note, multiplayer is worthless in my opinion just because of the xbox live community.
** Halo 3 would have been good if master chief actually died.
I've only played the first one on PC properly while playing a little bit of co op or split screen when I'm at someone else's place and I thought from that it just sucks. It's a bad videogame. Usually this isn't enough to make me hate something but people just don't shut up about it.
I don't, as most wanky hipsters do, declare it a "cavalcade of mediocrity" or a "stagnation of the genre". I just think that it feels sluggish and floaty, the multiplayer is just a boring silly mess of people zipping around in silly vehicles or running accross open plains, none of the weapons feel like they have any impact or even lethality (that's totally a word) and it's way too easy.
I don't, as most wanky hipsters do, declare it a "cavalcade of mediocrity" or a "stagnation of the genre". I just think that it feels sluggish and floaty, the multiplayer is just a boring silly mess of people zipping around in silly vehicles or running accross open plains, none of the weapons feel like they have any impact or even lethality (that's totally a word) and it's way too easy.
Does anyone else dislike the way in which "hate" is being conflated with "disinterest"? The two are not the same. I am disninterested in Halo, it doesn't see fun to be but that is the extent of my emotion. I disliek this general move to there only being two positions one can take towards any given thing, that of hate or love, it's unhealthy in that is just causes people to become fnatical about their position.
Unless of course people actually do function in that way in which case I feel very alone.
Unless of course people actually do function in that way in which case I feel very alone.
its ok. The multiplayer can suck at times, I personally dont like how the game is pretty much a grenade fest at times.
I dont feel its as immersive as other games. I struggle to find the game believeable. Especially the maps, everything seeems too clean or too well thought out. When im playing halo im always aware that im playing a game, so i cant get in to it.
I dont feel its as immersive as other games. I struggle to find the game believeable. Especially the maps, everything seeems too clean or too well thought out. When im playing halo im always aware that im playing a game, so i cant get in to it.
Are you seriously going to argue with a straight face that Halo isn't one the most popular game franchises to exist, ever?emeraldrafael said:
If so many people are buying it and being displeased with the product like you say, then what's with all the extra lore, action figures and merchandise that get sold by the truckload?
My skimming knows no bounds.emeraldrafael said:WEll it was right up in the first post.Netrigan said:Cuz I was skimmingemeraldrafael said:
I was pretty much waiting for someone to play the popularity card. Someone all plays the popularity card (or the "because everyone are Valve/CoD fanboys" card or the "Haters Gonna Hate" card). It wasn't until after I posted that I read past your first sentence.
It shouldn't have been directed at you and I apologize, but it annoys me how many people think that the things they enjoy are above criticism.