Seriously is the concept of tension and struggle a friggien alien concept to Hiro every fight feels tensionless because I know how the characters win and the aftermath in the fights is just salting the wounds
Why does Fairy Tail lack any balls
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Strictly speaking, tails are not an indicator of manhood. Perhaps the fairy in question is in fact a female. That would explain the lack of testicles.
I have no ideas.
It's one of the flaws I have with the manga/ anime since they just win easily and without any struggles toward it. Even when Erza utter friendship to powerup, it fall flats in my eyes (at least when Luffy and co does it, it look more genuine than Erza).
Ok sure there was like what, one or two struggles like Natsu losing tiward Gildart but that is nothing compared to Luffy thinking he lost his crew or when he lost his brother. Even Luffy fight had real tension like he just barely win again Lucci simply by using his barrage of his fist!
It's one of the flaws I have with the manga/ anime since they just win easily and without any struggles toward it. Even when Erza utter friendship to powerup, it fall flats in my eyes (at least when Luffy and co does it, it look more genuine than Erza).
Ok sure there was like what, one or two struggles like Natsu losing tiward Gildart but that is nothing compared to Luffy thinking he lost his crew or when he lost his brother. Even Luffy fight had real tension like he just barely win again Lucci simply by using his barrage of his fist!
Fairy Tail relies on the same formula for every fight. Just as the hero looks beaten, they pull nakama power out of nowhere and win. Because the cycle is so repetitive, and the rest of the story structure is so bare bones, there's nothing to really hang tension on.
Pulling power out of your ass when the chips are down is a hallmark of Shonen in general. Some shonen disguise this better than others. Fairy Tail is solidly in the "others" category.
I actually just recently read Boku no Hero Academia and didn't really see what all the fuss was about, but then I remembered back to Fairy Tail and it reminded that the bar had been set around ankle height.
I actually just recently read Boku no Hero Academia and didn't really see what all the fuss was about, but then I remembered back to Fairy Tail and it reminded that the bar had been set around ankle height.
The same problem Naruto had after a while - author ran out of ideas.
Remember how in the beginning of Naruto a good majority of the fights were either won with clever technique or rules bending, or combining known things in ways that people might not have thought of?
Then it turned into DBZ with Ninjas? Yeah.
Remember how in the beginning of Naruto a good majority of the fights were either won with clever technique or rules bending, or combining known things in ways that people might not have thought of?
Then it turned into DBZ with Ninjas? Yeah.
Because the author sucks and doesn't have an original bone in his body? Seriously, half the characters from Fairy Tail are just re-skins of characters from his first manga. Grey and Sting are literally the exact same character with the exact same design. Taking risks would actually require creativity and talent, of which he has none.
Hard to believe I ever liked that show. Once I hit episode 175 and couldn say I finished the first series I just stopped caring.
Hard to believe I ever liked that show. Once I hit episode 175 and couldn say I finished the first series I just stopped caring.
Shonen, shonen never changes...
(followed by extreme death cheating, of course.)
I for one, think that nail in the coffin was when people started cheating death itself.Paragon Fury said:
(followed by extreme death cheating, of course.)
Because Hiro is a talentless hack that draws flashy bishy crap and fanservice so it gets lapped up.
The only long running shonen worth reading at the moment is One Piece, and that's because Oda knows how to build a fucking world and set some stakes and actually be unpredictable.
Case in point: Luffy got his fucking ass handed to him plenty in the first half of One Piece. Smoker decked him in Logue Town, Crocodile left him for dead twice in Alabasta, Lucci fucking curbstomped him and Zoro in Water 7 and damn near killed him in Enies Lobby, got run around outsmarted and beat by Gekko Moriah, entire crew got beat down on Saobody, got all kinds of fucked up by Magellan, got rekt in Marineford by Sakazuki.
The only long running shonen worth reading at the moment is One Piece, and that's because Oda knows how to build a fucking world and set some stakes and actually be unpredictable.
Case in point: Luffy got his fucking ass handed to him plenty in the first half of One Piece. Smoker decked him in Logue Town, Crocodile left him for dead twice in Alabasta, Lucci fucking curbstomped him and Zoro in Water 7 and damn near killed him in Enies Lobby, got run around outsmarted and beat by Gekko Moriah, entire crew got beat down on Saobody, got all kinds of fucked up by Magellan, got rekt in Marineford by Sakazuki.
Fairy Tail mostly annoys me with the way it handles its antagonists. Even the most climactic battles are over in the space of one or two chapters. On top of that, said antagonists are usually hyped up to holy hell. It's not just the fights, either. Recently, both Natsu and Laxus had some magical turbocancer that threatened to kill them; in both cases, it took all of one chapter for their "life-threatening" conditions to be cured. So yeah, I never feel like there is any tension.
It really reminds me of One Piece. But I can kind of appreciate Fairy Tale not wasting my time on waste of time dramatics that generally don't matter.
Right. Ace? Too bad you were immediately replaced by your brother, who is the same character, despite a different design.
Right. Ace? Too bad you were immediately replaced by your brother, who is the same character, despite a different design.
Oda made a man who dressed like a baby a more tragic character then anything FT has to offerThe White Hunter said:
This is the problem that I have always had with long running shows/anime, because after a while, and after the main characters have gotten themselves into a life-or-death scenario for the umpteenth time, you start to realise that any tension that the show once had has disappeared, because they are all just going to walk away from it completely unscathed, or will be completely fine in a couple of episodes, and then it will be off to the beach episode, or back to business as usual, just like it has been for the last 20 gajillion times that it has happened.
It takes balls to kill a character that you love. If everyone is fearing for the life of your favourite character, then it builds up tension, and keeps people interested. That is why shows like Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead are so popular, and that is why I enjoyed Akame Ga Kill so much. If your cast of characters stays exactly the same and unaffected for 200 episodes, however, you could stop watching and come back 50 episodes later, and everything will be exactly the same.
It takes balls to kill a character that you love. If everyone is fearing for the life of your favourite character, then it builds up tension, and keeps people interested. That is why shows like Game of Thrones, and The Walking Dead are so popular, and that is why I enjoyed Akame Ga Kill so much. If your cast of characters stays exactly the same and unaffected for 200 episodes, however, you could stop watching and come back 50 episodes later, and everything will be exactly the same.
I dunno, they have a pretty decent gap in character. Sabo's got an anti-noble thing going on compared to Ace's kind of ambivalence to Roger and a bit less of a religious devotion to his mentor. Plus, Dragon probably wouldn't get himself killed preventing Sabo's execution so bit of a difference. Is weird that both of Luffy's brothers end up as loyal followers while he never once considers being anything but a Captain.Chaos Isaac said:
OT: It's lowest common denominator manga, you really can't expect much from FT.
Because that's not the kind of story its trying to be?
Like, no offence, but not every show needs to be one where the heroes die and people's favourite characters keep disappearing. Yeah, that's the vogue at the moment as its a novelty, but its already growing tired [Hell, IMO it was tired from the beginning. In the anime world, Attack on Titan got so much praise for this, but was really pretty boring because rather than knowing that everyone's going to live, you know there's a bunch who will die. Doesn't make you more investigated, just makes you more bored at the fairly arbitrary reasons the author keeps inventing to kill them. Akame Ga Kill suffered from this too, though apparently not in the Manga. First couple of character deaths were good, well timed and handled, and sold the whole 'people die in this world' deal. Then near the end of the season it forgot what it was actually about and started to just invent OoC ways to kill off characters, because obviously that's why everyone likes the show]
There is nothing wrong with the heroes always winning the day. People don't have to die for a show to be good. Especially if its aimed at the teenage boy demographic.
I'm also not a fan of too much false tension. Its the shit DBZ gets called out on a lot, the whole 20 episodes to finish a fight sort of deal. Its not interesting. Its not cool. We all know how it ends, just hurry up and get on with it. Fairy Tail can be too short, but at least its not too long.
As for One Piece... Dropped that quicker than I dropped FT to be entirely honest. It just got so boring and samey so quickly. Never really liked the characters as much either, nor the main plot.
FT has its problems, but "Not enough tension" isn't one that you can apply to it, and not the entirety of the Shounen genre. The fights are usually pretty samey, and could use some shaking up, but some false sense of 'They're going to lose and die' doesn't do it for me. Grand Magic Games was entertaining, thanks to not really following that formula to the letter and being much less serious, meanwhilst fighting the dragons afterwards was one of the most boring parts of the series to date because it did try to build that fake tension with the fact that no-one can touch the damn things, and apparently one of the characters is dead in the future, and every guild in the world can't stand up to even a single dragon. The best part of it was when Natsu met that fire dragon, tried to eat him, and the follow through from that. Whilst nonsensical, it was at least more along the less serious and more fun side of the show, as opposed to the fake seriousness that we all know means nothing.
Overall... Welcome to shounen. Fairy Tail has its issues, but focusing on the wider 'issues' of taste with most shounen anime as its issue kind of glosses over its real problems, and ignores the fact that the lack of wondering whether a character is going to actually die for realzies or not is part of why people watch the genre.
Like, no offence, but not every show needs to be one where the heroes die and people's favourite characters keep disappearing. Yeah, that's the vogue at the moment as its a novelty, but its already growing tired [Hell, IMO it was tired from the beginning. In the anime world, Attack on Titan got so much praise for this, but was really pretty boring because rather than knowing that everyone's going to live, you know there's a bunch who will die. Doesn't make you more investigated, just makes you more bored at the fairly arbitrary reasons the author keeps inventing to kill them. Akame Ga Kill suffered from this too, though apparently not in the Manga. First couple of character deaths were good, well timed and handled, and sold the whole 'people die in this world' deal. Then near the end of the season it forgot what it was actually about and started to just invent OoC ways to kill off characters, because obviously that's why everyone likes the show]
There is nothing wrong with the heroes always winning the day. People don't have to die for a show to be good. Especially if its aimed at the teenage boy demographic.
I'm also not a fan of too much false tension. Its the shit DBZ gets called out on a lot, the whole 20 episodes to finish a fight sort of deal. Its not interesting. Its not cool. We all know how it ends, just hurry up and get on with it. Fairy Tail can be too short, but at least its not too long.
As for One Piece... Dropped that quicker than I dropped FT to be entirely honest. It just got so boring and samey so quickly. Never really liked the characters as much either, nor the main plot.
FT has its problems, but "Not enough tension" isn't one that you can apply to it, and not the entirety of the Shounen genre. The fights are usually pretty samey, and could use some shaking up, but some false sense of 'They're going to lose and die' doesn't do it for me. Grand Magic Games was entertaining, thanks to not really following that formula to the letter and being much less serious, meanwhilst fighting the dragons afterwards was one of the most boring parts of the series to date because it did try to build that fake tension with the fact that no-one can touch the damn things, and apparently one of the characters is dead in the future, and every guild in the world can't stand up to even a single dragon. The best part of it was when Natsu met that fire dragon, tried to eat him, and the follow through from that. Whilst nonsensical, it was at least more along the less serious and more fun side of the show, as opposed to the fake seriousness that we all know means nothing.
Overall... Welcome to shounen. Fairy Tail has its issues, but focusing on the wider 'issues' of taste with most shounen anime as its issue kind of glosses over its real problems, and ignores the fact that the lack of wondering whether a character is going to actually die for realzies or not is part of why people watch the genre.
