'Why Does Link have to be Female?'

[kilenem]

Just cheap and lazy enough to feel good about it being different while also being exactly the same.

To be fair, that's basically the Legend of Zelda series as a whole.

Individual games are fun and all, but as a franchise, it's been telling the exact same story just with shinier graphics for 20 years now.

I would counter that with the handheld games. With the exception minish cap and the remakes they've all been drastically diffrent. Link's awkening is one of the weirdest Zelda's Ive played. I havent played the CDi ones

 

[GrumbleGrump]

These people need friends or a constructive hobby, like painting.

Yeah, video games suck, right? Leave male Link for us friendless losers who care so much that Link's a dude.[/quote]

Yup. It's a fucking elf boy in an arthritic franchise, whose been more predominantly more clothes than personality.

A constructive hobby? So gaming isn't a constructive hobby and is for losers. Gotcha.

Nope, since you're not creating stuff for yourself. By painting, drawing, making music, etc. you are. That's what I meant by constructive. Shit, should've said creative. Welp, whatever.

 

[Captain Marvelous_v1legacy]

They want a female Link because they are sociopaths who cannot sympathize with someone who doesn't look like them.

So, what about the male gamers that want a female link? Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. Is it really so bad for players to want a gender option for what is essentially a blank slate with little to no personality to speak of? I mean, sociopaths? Really?

 

[Erttheking]

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That insult about Link is about as original as it is accurate. IE, not very.

So you're giving up on the other points? Gotcha. Oh and you have no idea if these people do have hobbies or not. I mean I write and I still complain.

 

[Gamerpalooza]

Is it really so bad for players to want a gender option...

Yes because it infringes on the directors creation.

Since I know SJW wont like it when males starts turning iconic female leads into males.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Is it really so bad for players to want a gender option...

Yes because it infringes on the directors creation.

Since I know SJW wont like it when males starts turning iconic female leads into males.

Jesus, now I'm infringing on a director's creation for merely wanting something?

Where does this rabbit hole end?

 

[Captain Marvelous_v1legacy]

Is it really so bad for players to want a gender option...

Yes because it infringes on the directors creation.

No, it doesn't. Forcing the director to put in the gender option against his will would be one thing, but the players are basically just asking. If the director, or whoever, wants to, they'll create a female link. If they don't, well those who want female link will keep asking. In no way is anyone's creation, or vision or whatever, being infringed upon by the consumer asking for something.

Since I know SJW wont like it when males starts turning iconic female leads into males.

Well, taking one of the few female characters in gaming and making her male is much worse than making a male female. Though, I don't think many people actually want actual characters, with personalities, to be gender bent. Just make a new character or new game in that case. Link is special, though. He's just a blank slate for the player to project on to. His gender doesn't matter. Which is part of the reason why it matters, I guess. I'm sure most people that want a Linkle would be more than satisfied with a playable Zelda, though.

 

[GrumbleGrump]

They want a female Link because they are sociopaths who cannot sympathize with someone who doesn't look like them.

So, what about the male gamers that want a female link? Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. Is it really so bad for players to want a gender option for what is essentially a blank slate with little to no personality to speak of? I mean, sociopaths? Really?

Except they want an exclusively female Link, not a female option. If it was an option then it'd be okay.

 

[Captain Marvelous_v1legacy]

They want a female Link because they are sociopaths who cannot sympathize with someone who doesn't look like them.

So, what about the male gamers that want a female link? Honestly, I don't see what the big deal is. Is it really so bad for players to want a gender option for what is essentially a blank slate with little to no personality to speak of? I mean, sociopaths? Really?

Except they want an exclusively female Link, not a female option. If it was an option then it'd be okay.

Who is they? Where did you read this. From what I know, most people either want an entirely gender swapped game, Zelda -> Male | Ganon -> Female, a gender option at the beginning of the game, a spin-off game for Zelda, or a spin-off game for Linkle. I don't see anything wrong with any of these.

 

[Gamerpalooza]

No, it doesn't. Forcing the director to put in the gender option against his will would be one thing, but the players are basically just asking. If the director, or whoever, wants to, they'll create a female link. If they don't, well those who want female link will keep asking. In no way is anyone's creation, or vision or whatever, being infringed upon by the consumer asking for something.

Doesn't sound like asking to me to the extent these reactions have taken it.

Regardless these people wouldn't mod their "female" option into the SNES-N64 version of LoZ games nor have they appreciated the mass availability of playable female characters of HW.

Well, taking one of the few female characters in gaming and making her male is much worse than making a male female. Though, I don't think many people actually want actual characters, with personalities, to be gender bent. Just make a new character or new game in that case. Link is special, though. He's just a blank slate for the player to project on to. His gender doesn't matter. Which is part of the reason why it matters, I guess. I'm sure most people that want a Linkle would be more than satisfied with a playable Zelda, though.

I've never viewed him as a blank slate.

If they were to make link a female I would expect a lot more of the nonsensical "sexism" rants because of what Link goes through. Especially with talks about toxic masculinity. Since there's a lot of objectivity that revolves around male oriented labor than there is anything that can be tied much to femininity. Link doesn't travel and takes the nuns path to end conflict.

Fishing, lifting, killing, gathering, taming, espionage, and exploration. We can probably give instruments playing and horseback riding a pass but outside of that I don't see much that's gonna really make a crowd-pleaser here. Since just making a female link isn't an end all solution here.

Since if we take the places that require water and wetness physics are applied we would here nothing but how fem Link is sexualized.

The many monsters that tend to grab, grope, and choke. We would nothing but bs about rape and fantasy. Even though no one really makes a fuss about Gerudo Valley. Which if we had an entirely gender swapped game...I expect the media to be up in arms about a "rape" city of women that is Gerudo Valley.

If anything Hyrule Warrior was the benchmark that help set this in motion. We get 14 playable female characters and not a single praise. While the game has 12 males and 1 animal. As well where other games have caved to such "desires" and have been demonized more over them than been given gratitude for capitulating.

 

[Captain Marvelous_v1legacy]

No, it doesn't. Forcing the director to put in the gender option against his will would be one thing, but the players are basically just asking. If the director, or whoever, wants to, they'll create a female link. If they don't, well those who want female link will keep asking. In no way is anyone's creation, or vision or whatever, being infringed upon by the consumer asking for something.

Doesn't sound like asking to me to the extent these reactions have taken it.

Regardless these people wouldn't mod their "female" option into the SNES-N64 version of LoZ games nor have they appreciated the mass availability of playable female characters of HW.

They can't do anything but ask, so it doesn't matter. But, yeah, Hyrule Warriors' mostly female cast has gone largely ignored. That isn't to say that gamers that wanted to play as the female characters didn't appreciate it, though.

Well, taking one of the few female characters in gaming and making her male is much worse than making a male female. Though, I don't think many people actually want actual characters, with personalities, to be gender bent. Just make a new character or new game in that case. Link is special, though. He's just a blank slate for the player to project on to. His gender doesn't matter. Which is part of the reason why it matters, I guess. I'm sure most people that want a Linkle would be more than satisfied with a playable Zelda, though.

I've never viewed him as a blank slate.

If they were to make link a female I would expect a lot more of the nonsensical "sexism" rants because of what Link goes through. Especially with talks about toxic masculinity. Since there's a lot of objectivity that revolves around male oriented labor than there is anything that can be tied much to femininity. Link doesn't travel and takes the nuns path to end conflict.

Fishing, lifting, killing, gathering, taming, espionage, and exploration. We can probably give instruments playing and horseback riding a pass but outside of that I don't see much that's gonna really make a crowd-pleaser here. Since just making a female link isn't an end all solution here.

Since if we take the places that require water and wetness physics are applied we would here nothing but how fem Link is sexualized.

The many monsters that tend to grab, grope, and choke. We would nothing but bs about rape and fantasy. Even though no one really makes a fuss about Gerudo Valley. Which if we had an entirely gender swapped game...I expect the media to be up in arms about a "rape" city of women that is Gerudo Valley.

If anything Hyrule Warrior was the benchmark that help set this in motion. We get 14 playable female characters and not a single praise. While the game has 12 males and 1 animal. As well where other games have caved to such "desires" and have been demonized more over them than been given gratitude for capitulating.

Predicting the outrage before it happens is a waste of time. We can nuke that bridge when we get there. Even if the sinister feminist cabal rages over the female character, other gamers may still appreciate it. We don't have a hive mind after all, [sub][sub][sub]despite all evidence to the contrary[/sub][/sub][/sub]. If a female link, or a playable Zelda, will make some gamers happy, then I'd say it's worth it.

 

[Erttheking]

Regardless these people wouldn't mod their "female" option into the SNES-N64 version of LoZ games nor have they appreciated the mass availability of playable female characters of HW.

*Raises eyebrow* I seem to recall people giving the game a lot of praise for that when it came out. In fact, the complaints I do remember about the game included people complaining about it pandering to SJWs when Linkle was announced.

But even then, is it really that outrageous to ask for diversity in casting to extend beyond spin off games?