Why does nobody fight Lord Voldemort?

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Maeta

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doggie015 said:
I think they lack that logic... Just look at how flimsy the quiddich arenas are! (Except for the most expensive Olympic-grade ones!)
or just the quidditch scoring rules, which are determinedly rubbish... if they made the snitch worth 30 points, then fine, that might work, as 3 goals in that isn't too much of an ask, but 15? also, why all multiples of 10? it means you have an extra digit on the end of the scoreboard, which seems all rigged to work, but is perpetually stuck at 0...
maybe the best way to have killed voldemort would have been to make him consider the rules of quidditch, though in the wizard world, they never do any excercise (or any lessons other than bloated magical crap), so he'd no doubt die from a coronary at some point...
 

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Because.. because....... No idea. HEY WAIT A MINUTE! Didn't the last HP movie come out around the same time as we killed Osama??????? COINCIDENCE? I THINK NOT.
 

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Jacco said:
Because wizards aren't the smartest of people. Let me just say he's lucky he started his shit in Britain and not North America. No offense to the Brirs, but us North Americans would have done it right the first time. Lol
I'd just like to point out that the real people who live in Britain at the minute don't actually skip around old medival schools with elegant robes and little twigs.
Except for expensive private schools of course.

OT: Alright, guns are useless and he's immortal. What about a crucio spell? Imperio? Is he immune to those too? Couldn't I surprise him with a nice little torture session from behind? And since he's immortal I could keep him under torture forever and he wouldn't even be able to die.
Can't I imperio him and, like, get him to assemble all his death eaters for me to kill/imprison and then somehow get rid of the Dark Lord?
 

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It's kind of like saying why doesn't anybody fight Sauron. Well, then again...pretty much every hero in Middle Earth slapped Sauron around like their ***** back when he was Morgoth's henchman (in the Silmarillion) - but back then his only real power was shapeshifting, and then one of the elven heroes smacked him up badly enough that he couldn't even do that anymore. Ok, why doesn't anybody fight Sauron AFTER he's pulled the stunt with the rings, turning himself more powerful than Morgoth even was? Well, then again, they sort of did, and chopped off his hand with the one ring and killed his mortal form...

...dang it....why doesn't anyone occupy Mordor after defeating Sauron the first time and wipe out the orcs, or at least stop them from re-organising? That's sort of similar - they don't do it because it's an impossible death-trap where the very land takes the side of the orcs. Then again, they do go into Mordor near the end once the one ring gets destroyed...


....darn it these LoTR/Potter comparisons are hard to make work!

Mind you, it does show how Tolkein didn't need HIS bad guy to have any namby pamby plot armour, just badass history and lore to the point where the reader doesn't question it (/sticks tongue out at Potter fans).
 

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There is a lot of "People don't fight him because he haz dem horcruxes, but correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't this a pretty uncommonly known fact? I mean, not even Dumbledore was certain until it was confirmed with Slughorn's own memories, something the general wizard population hardly had access to.
 

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BabyRaptor said:
Um, other than him being immortal until all the Horcruxes were destroyed?
How many people knew that, though? I mean, honestly, that was one of the big reveals that only one of the good guys even suspected up until the sixth book, after he had died, stayed "dead" for over a decade, then come back.

He couldn't be killed permanently, but that's little reason that nobody would try to fight back. Especially since that was kind of a secret. He didn't even tell the people guarding those Horcruxes what their importance was.
 

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Vortigar said:
It's illegal to own a gun in any shape or form in the UK. So there's a moral quandary there.
Very Very Wrong. If you have a license you may own a wepon pertaining to that weapon, gun clubs for wepons specifically designed for shooting at targets, and then a wide range of very specific weapons calibres and designs for hunting and pest control. Hell license for shotguns don't really have a lower age limit.

I suspect looking at the magics potrayed in the books (bridges were destroyed, tornadoes called up) that sort of thing, and that there were magical shields avaliable, that firearms just werent worth the effort, and so people just didnt bother to set up spells to protect against him.

Also as has been said just getting to him was virtually impossible. Imagine trying to get a sniper shot on the president of the US if he never makes public apperances. Or any other form of shot off given that, that he's got a bodyguard, can read minds, and has an array of spells and magical devices that can detect if anyone is about to attack him.

As for poor tech, you have to be kidding, they had things that outway most of our tech, they just used some sparingly. They had video coms, they have instant travel, and peronal flight, chores are pretty much non existant relitive to us and our best labour saving tech.
 

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Easy. He utterly horrified everyone. Remember, in his initial run he'd built up such a reputation that people were still afraid to speak his name...a fear that continued over a decade after he supposedly died. He was considered one of the most powerful wizards in history and the most evil one in centuries.
Actually that's something that always struck me about the first book- he was said to be the most powerful wizard in... what was it, 100 years? Can you imagine how bad whoever it was that was around 100 years ago must have been?
 

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Voldemort is immortal via the Horcruxes, he's the most powerful dark wizard in history, he has quite a large security detail, if your mind has any hint of corruption, you will stop attacking Voldemort, and join his ranks against your will with a curse I forget the name of.

And if you get within 100 miles of him, his thousands upon thousands of troops will fire the death curse at you. Imagine 10,000 death curses barreling toward you. You can't run.
 

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It's worth noting that the killing curse is just the only curse which is unblockable and impossible to survive, no matter what you do.
It's by no means the only way to kill someone, Pettigrew (a pretty shitty wizard by most standards) successfully blows up a street with a simple curse and kills a good lot of people.

The crap of using a gun is he probably has a shield up all the time, the guy's cunning as anything and not to be taken lightly, if he didn't have a shield up a wizard could assassinate him from 1000 yards just as easily after all.
As for shielding spells being visible that clearly isn't the case, Hogwarts is constantly under several protection spells, Watson casts a ton when they set up camp. Neither has any visible impact, the great shield was different.

As to the OP, well it's been said people are shit scared of him and rightly so. Some people do fight and they almost all died. Moody was meant to be an extremely powerful auror and he didn't even slow the big V down. He took on several powerful wizards at once with seeming ease and dismissed them the same, he duelled Dumbledore to a draw despite lacking the elder wand for chrissakes.
 

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I understand using guns and bombs on the evil, immortal, immoral noseless wizard will probably end in tears but what about on his followers?
Wait till they get one of their get-togethers, set off some Michael bay level boomies, Add some snipers to pick off the rest and capture some to find rest of the deatheater group on penalty of pain or something(they did seem to know one another to invite-each-other-to-tea level)
Won't do much to old Moldybutt *Crack* but will at least reduce his numbers somewhat
(hopefully coherent, I am rather unwell and bored. A bad mix)
 

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Half the problem is tracking him down. How do you find him in the first place? He has teleports and you won't know where and when he's going appear and disappear. He rarely does his own dirty work and doesn't give scheduled public appearances either. Heck, he took down the ministry without being seen. How many years did it took to actually find Osama when he can't even teleport around like voldie? Not to mention normal people won't even be able to see his hideout with all those magical crap he places around his headquarters. The three protagonist eluded capture from magical people for quite some time, and they don't even have voldie-level magic. They didn't even finish their magical education. The only reason they got caught was because they muttered the magical swear word. Nuking and/or sniping at voldie requires them to actually find him first, which proved impossible for normal folks.

The other half of the problem is having enough power to actually fight his army. When he regained his full powers, dementors were roaming around Britain. Just having dementors alone would have sucked out your will to fight, and the normal people won't even know its there. Any army you sent against him would be too busy being depressed to do anything useful. Lets not forget the death eaters, giants and werewolves that joined him.

Oh, don't forget how easily the magical ministry placed a wizard in the PM's office. If voldie felt like it, he could have controlled the muggle PM and have him work against the good guys. After all, if he could gain control of the magical ministry, the normal ministry would stand no chance against his infiltration.

The Horcruxes are just icing on cake.

Then again, why didn't the ministry just use Time Turners to go back in time and slaughter child voldie before he went to Hogwarts (or better yet, after he was born)? They have a cabinet full of those things before they got smashed to bits in Phoenix. They could have done that in the first book and be done with it.
 

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Jacco said:
Because wizards aren't the smartest of people. Let me just say he's lucky he started his shit in Britain and not North America. No offense to the Brirs, but us North Americans would have done it right the first time. Lol
If he started in North America fox news would have reported on it and everyone would have fled the country by lunch.
 

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What I didn't find believable was Voldemorts plan to conquer the muggles. Thing about us muggles is we got guns and tactical missile strikes. So I think that war would have been over quick.

Conversely I think a gun toting bullet wizard would be really cool. He or she could have wands built into a pair of pistols and do crazy bullet magic.
 

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BabyRaptor said:
TheTaco007 said:
BabyRaptor said:
Um, other than him being immortal until all the Horcruxes were destroyed?
And also that fact that he could slaughter anyone in 10 seconds flat?
Well, yes. There's that. Avada Kadabra WAS pretty nasty to everyone not The Boy Who Lived.
I don't think I could keep an entire society cowed with the power of what is essentially on the same level as a pistol. Outside of fiction for children, anyway.

The REALLY scary powers are the things like freaking MIND CONTROL. That stuff could likely let me cow an entire society. But nobody seems to care when wizards routinely MIND-RAPE other wizards and non-wizards alike. Compared to the pathetic ability to kill someone, the ability to control someone's mind and alter their memories is a billion times more terrifying. Never mind the ability to TIME TRAVEL, or- ah forget it. :p
 

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Jacco said:
Because wizards aren't the smartest of people. Let me just say he's lucky he started his shit in Britain and not North America. No offense to the Brirs, but us North Americans would have done it right the first time. Lol
He's probably resistant to nukes and "Fuck yeah!" chanting.

OT: Because he's the baddest man in the whole damn town.
 

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Jacco said:
Because wizards aren't the smartest of people. Let me just say he's lucky he started his shit in Britain and not North America. No offense to the Brirs, but us North Americans would have done it right the first time. Lol
Without beeing american, i'll give that to the americans.
USA was probably the country in the world i would be most worried about if i was send to invade it.
Maybe he would accept the muggle tech he needed, and put a scope on his wand for aveda kedavra sniping action?

Always wondered why no-one in the books thought about using guns in their struggle.
Just find the pålace where he respawns after getting killed due to horcruxes, and spawn-camp his sorry ass with a sniper team, untill he rage-quits.