Why does the Human race use curency?

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ExaltedK9

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Kiyotaki said:
How come we use currency, what if everything was free and done by charity workers?
You've had 8 posts, mispelled 'currency', and asked the stupidest question I've ever heard in one sentence.

Congratulations.
 

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Because ....?

Every advanced nation needs concepts of wealth (Wealth, not money ... there is a difference). No matter what communist douchebags may tell, without the concept of wealth nor the rewarded labour (with money leading to wealth) the human animal will fail to thrive.

Life requires competition, or it fails to evolve ... if a society removes competition (such as poverty) even though there is finite resources the drive to be more efficient and to further distance yourself from your packmates is significantly reduced.

If you are just given a job, and a house, and food ... the concept of wealth is lost.

When the concept of wealth is lost, the desire to be kmore efficient in it's acquisition is also lost. Drive and competition = greater wealth and overall social development.

We don't look at wolves who growl at eachother and fight over choice pickings of the prey and say 'Wow ... so greedy' ... neither should we look at people with money and respond as such. The acquisition of wealth is not inherently wrong ... it's a natural force for change and development.

If a person works 90 hours a week, gets that big promotion, gains ever more capital ... the only greedy arseholes are his/her former friends who turn around and say 'Wow ... what a moneygrabbing douche'.

They are the greedy ones because they expect to be rewarded when they do not work harder than the rest of their colleagues. if you believe at all in 'Equal pay for equal work' then you must also believe in 'more pay for more work' ...
 

hawkeye52

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The_root_of_all_evil said:
It lets you build the marketplace, set up trade routes and leads to Code of Laws.
if that was a civ quote then you sir win

but for what people have said hardly anyone will work for the "greater good" and so society will collapse
 

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TeeBs said:
Thats probably the most extreme form of communism ive ever seen.

It wouldn't work thats why we don't do it, whats the point of working if you get nothing for it.
"Well it could be a gift based society, your not valued by how much you have but by how much you contribute."

*Note to self: Gift Based Society would be a decent name for a rook band.*
 

Sulgoth

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Humans rarely do anything without incentive, greed is one such incentive, why don't we forgo this concept? Because evolution tells us that we should get something for doing something
 

Canadamus Prime

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My former boss was telling me one time that currency has it's origins back in the time when the feudal lords would literally own your ass (if you were a peasant). Not only that, but apparently the lords would actually demand tributes in blood from the peasants. This, of course, proved to be problematic, so instead it was arranged that the peasants would give the lord a percentage of the goods they produce (since most of them were farmers).
 

Glaive_21842

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Sulgoth said:
Humans rarely do anything without incentive, greed is one such incentive, why don't we forgo this concept? Because evolution tells us that we should get something for doing something
No, society tells us that we should get something for doing something. Since greed is simply one basic aspect of human nature, I've always wondered why we couldn't base a society on another basic basic aspect of human nature, such as self improvement or the like. Could work just as well for all we know. Who knows, it may even work better...or it might not work at all, but we'll never know if we pessimistically shrug it off.
 

DemonicVixen

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I see currency as being nothing but paper, metal and numbers. Here is another thought for you.

What if we just used "points" instead of money. Wages were paid using "points" on a special card. The government assigns everyone a certain amount of starting points and then thats it. A bank uses points technically. They assign numbers onto your cash card, and the paper and metal is recycled to be used again by other people...

Ever noticed that we dont need paper and money? Ever noticed that if we didnt THINK we did, countries wouldnt be in debt?

I have, and i've thought it through so carefully that i KNOW it could work. Sadly, i'm not the Queen, nor parliment
 

DJROC

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I think money should stick around for at least a while longer.

I'm down for everything being run as a non-profit, though.
 

yamitami

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canadamus_prime said:
My former boss was telling me one time that currency has it's origins back in the time when the feudal lords would literally own your ass (if you were a peasant). Not only that, but apparently the lords would actually demand tributes in blood from the peasants. This, of course, proved to be problematic, so instead it was arranged that the peasants would give the lord a percentage of the goods they produce (since most of them were farmers).
.....No, money was around long before feudal Europe. I'd have to check to be sure but I'm pretty sure it pre-dates Mesopotamia. The reason why currency came into play is because trading tokens was a lot easier than trading goods. Ever have to do one of those extended fetch quests where the stonemason wants a new hammer which you can get from the blacksmith but he wants a chicken, which you don't have, and then you find out the baker has a chicken he's trading but he wants a specific kind of herb... on and on. That was daily commerce before coins.
 

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DemonicVixen said:
I see currency as being nothing but paper, metal and numbers. Here is another thought for you.

What if we just used "points" instead of money. Wages were paid using "points" on a special card. The government assigns everyone a certain amount of starting points and then thats it. A bank uses points technically. They assign numbers onto your cash card, and the paper and metal is recycled to be used again by other people...

Ever noticed that we dont need paper and money? Ever noticed that if we didnt THINK we did, countries wouldnt be in debt?

I have, and i've thought it through so carefully that i KNOW it could work. Sadly, i'm not the Queen, nor parliment
No, indebted nations would have negative points ... objects have value on the basis of supply and demand. If you were going to just use 'points' without taking into account applicable changes in value of those points, or their translation into a possible gold standard then all you end up with is a clusterfucked economic model.

No nation stands alone on it's use of currency, there are nations that don't use their currency at all due to it's inability to be traded (and as such lose it's applicable fungibility that all currencies have in varying degrees).

Unless you're ordering all other nations to use this 'points system' that you speak of, they will, and rightfully so, tell you to STFU and give up trading with you as your 'points' won't mean shit to suppliers.

The only time your 'points' will ever matter is if they are directly able to be transferred into precious metals. All yuou'd end up doing is reducing trade, making it harder to trade, and imprison your own people within your borders because they will lack the ability to move and trade without impediment.

If that were the case, don't be surprised when a rebel stuck a knife in your back and repealed your laws.

The only way you'd get that system to work is if you made 'points' the new currency, 1 point = 1 cent of the former USD/GBP/etcd of wherever you are. But even then all you're doing is putting a new coat of paint on something and it costing more money then is worth doing.
 

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DemonicVixen said:
I see currency as being nothing but paper, metal and numbers. Here is another thought for you.

What if we just used "points" instead of money. Wages were paid using "points" on a special card. The government assigns everyone a certain amount of starting points and then thats it. A bank uses points technically. They assign numbers onto your cash card, and the paper and metal is recycled to be used again by other people...

Ever noticed that we dont need paper and money? Ever noticed that if we didnt THINK we did, countries wouldnt be in debt?

I have, and i've thought it through so carefully that i KNOW it could work. Sadly, i'm not the Queen, nor parliment
Isn't that just credit? We already have this. When i get paid, i can have my employer forward my "check" straight to the bank, no paperwork necessary. I can then pay for goods using a check card, once again removing the need for any form of paper transaction. I've just received and spent money, which can be given and spent again in the same way, that never existed physically. exactly the same as your "points" approach, except the "points" are called "dollars" or "Euros" or whatever.
 

Red Pawn

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I've been waiting for an opportunity to post this. And guess what? You win! Now go hit yourself over the head with something.
 

Lilani

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Because using a duck as a down payment for a loan of three cows and six goats is quite a hassle in these modern times.

Which, for some reason, makes me think of this Muppets sketch (you'll want to skip to 3:37)

 

Sporky111

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Imagine telling everyone in the world that suddenly everything was free and you working didn't get you anything. Most people would sit at home all day and do what they want, then go out and take anything they need or want or don't think their neighbour deserves.

Also, see this: