why does the media poo all over gaming?

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Fangface74

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Don't be fooled, all media to some extent is a.... bowel movement waiting to happen!

With the birth of the creator, came the after birth of the critic...
 

Fire Daemon

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Gavaroc said:
Is the Escapist not, technically, a form of the media? Gaming magazines certainly don't........ deposit waste upon gaming.
It is! You have all gotten News media and Media mixed up. At the moment I'm listening to Anarachy in the UK by The Sex Pistols. This is a form of media and I am pretty sure its not "pooing" all over gamming. I'm also typing this up on the Escapist and even though we do have some hateful users I'm pretty sure "poo" is not being placed on videogames. I'm also pretty sure that the movie playing in the Background is not "pooing" on gamming.

Do you want me to list everything that does not "poo" on gamming to back my point.

I see nothing wrong with complaining about unfair reports made by the News Media but for crying out loud Escapist users open your eyes and see that media does not hate videogames!
 

Gavaroc

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fangface74 said:
With the birth of the creator, came the after birth of the critic...

Ok, this is the only place I know where I can find fans of that movie. Everybody I know just looks at me funny!!! "Whaddya mean, 15 commandments?" Sigh....

But yes, most of the media is an impending... trip to the toilet, but the Escapist has so far proved to be an exception.

Oh and: If there are so many journalists writing for gaming magazines, surely someday there will be news stories on TV promoting video games?
 

Fangface74

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Fire Daemon said:
It is! You have all gotten News media and Media mixed up. At the moment I'm listening to Anarachy in the UK by The Sex Pistols. This is a form of media and I am pretty sure its not "pooing" all over gamming. I'm also typing this up on the Escapist and even though we do have some hateful users I'm pretty sure "poo" is not being placed on videogames. I'm also pretty sure that the movie playing in the Background is not "pooing" on gamming.

Do you want me to list everything that does not "poo" on gamming to back my point.

I see nothing wrong with complaining about unfair reports made by the News Media but for crying out loud Escapist users open your eyes and see that media does not hate videogames!
C'mon Daemon, you know perfectly well what was meant by 'media', a fucking piece of paper is 'media' if you want to be pedantic, I think everyone in the thread so far has 'sufficient retinal dilation' as to know the context of the post.
 

Gavaroc

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Yes, Fang's perfectly right.

That was 10 points for technicalities but minus 100 for common sense, although a song about condemning video games would be interesting to hear....

Walkin' down the street, all I e-ver-see,
People playin' games on their P-S-P,
They've got nothin' in terms of sociality,
Just stick to rea-li-ty!

All your base are belong-to-me,
Poor grammar like that just frigh-tens-me,
Talking in this way; you'll never get a degree,
Just stick to rea-li-ty!

The genres of games are just dumb-to-me,
From the FPS to the R-P-G,
Killing things is wrong, it's easy to see,
Just stick to rea-li-ty!

Have you ever heard the news that's on-T-V,
'Bout the gamers that lose their san-i-ty,
Playin' Doom one day then on a killing spree,
Just stick to rea-li-ty!

So let's all say no to the P-S-3,
Let's all get rid of the three-six-ty,
And you just forget about buyin' a Wii,
Just stick to rea-li-ty!

Just stick to rea-li-ty!

Just stick... to rea..... li.... tyyyyyyy.....

... Wow. I really need a life.
 

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edinflames said:
Case in point: The Bridgend Suicides. Nobody really knows what has lead 16 teenagers in the same small Welsh town (near Cardiff) to commit suicide. Maybe Bridgend is a really f*ckin depressing place to be.
I'm pretty certain that's it right there. whenever I catch the train between my university and my parents' house, there comes a moment at some point during the trip where the train spends three minutes on the platform at Bridgend, and even aboard a train, in that short time interval, the urge to top myself is nigh-overwhelming.

Which is why I prefer to drive. God knows how people actually succeed in living there. Oh, wait, they don't.
 

JakubK666

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Well I suppose this is gonna stop as soon as people who grew up on video games will get to power.Somewhere around 2030, I presume.
 

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Well I suppose this is gonna stop as soon as people who grew up on video games will get to power.Somewhere around 2030, I presume.
Really, that late? My first major console would most likely be the PS2, which I got when I was 8-9. Meaning, that in 2030, I'd 37.

I reckon you could make an impression on politics around the 30 mark (just speculation. If anyone's got cold hard evidence, then, tell us). So, my guess is 2020. But, maybe you are think of the generation following mine, perhaps?

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JakubK666 said:
Well I suppose this is gonna stop as soon as people who grew up on video games will get to power.Somewhere around 2030, I presume.
Let's see....NES came out in '85, right? Assuming that there were future politicians aged 4-5 playing that, then they should start getting into power in 2015 or so.

Edit: Actually, assuming age 30 for a nice even number, 2011. So in about 3 years on the outside.
 

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it will end when a new form of entertainment comes out, this happened to movies before games and books before movies, once they invent VR helmets with interactive porn we'll probably never hear another word about video games on the news.

but gamers are at fault somewhat here too, places like G4 and fox news are never held accountable when they defame gaming, hell has EA followed up at all over the mass effect thing? i mean come on a sternly worded letter accomplishes what in this day and age? the fact that gamers as a group have A)no lobby in congress and B) no united front means that when people push us, odd end outrage and sporatic discourse is the result. you realize gamers are the most unconnected techno-geeks this world has ever seen. we need something akin to a gamers union where we can organize and affect the world with our choices i mean the gameing industry makes more money each year than the movie industry as of a few years ago, we're a bigger economic group than blockbuster for christs' sake.

look at it this way, gamers from around the world bombed that chicks book on amazon and other sites, imagine if the same amount of people spent the same amount of time going after fox news themselves for putting such an "expert" on their show, i am willing to bet with that kind of power we may have gotten an apology, hell with the insane amount of spam bombing knowledge we collectivley possess we could probably crash the fox website even.

thats what gamers need, we need our very own nick nailor to go to congress and ruin people's shit in our favor.
 
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The only way to overcome this is to join together and make our voices heard. We should start a major coalitions of sorts. All we need is one incredibly rich member to get us proper advertising. If we could get an ad on GameFAQS, we would immediately have hundreds of thousands of members. So: anyone here incredibly rich?
 

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Looking back, this is longer then I intended, and rambles a bit, Ill try to clean it up as much as I can.

There seems to be 2 qualities that go into makeing a really sensational controversy. They appear potentially threatening in a somewhat believable way, and being widely unknown to the public. Remember the Killer Bee scare? It was scary, and no one knew much about them. It became a big thing. People were ignorent of how computers worked, and Y2K gained a bunch of press. Dungeons and Dragons have some of the funniest ignorent watch groups percieving a threat. We don't know all that much about terrorists by and large, so thats scary too. Along comes Video Games. Talk to the average parent, and there ignorence on computer games can be downright comical. Its easier to be afraid then to understand. So video games become a scary unknown, ripe for controversy.

The idea of video games being dangerous is somewhat believable too. I personally think that 8 year olds shouldn't be allowed to play GTA, I think thats a bad influence an a young childs life, and I also know that it happens quite regularly. The kneejerk fear is pretty easy to see, people don't want there baby pretending to graphically kill people. Fair enough. However, it is often overlooked that to play these games, you need to have a system that costs a few hundred dollars, a game that costs around 50, a means of purchaseing the game, enough knowledge to set up the system, and a place to play at home. Chances are, all of these things are directly in control of the parent. If you let your child have all these things, then it is your duty to make the cursory effort required to know what sort of games your child is playing. You can't tell me you didn't know the game was innapropriate. It likely had guns and dead people on the cover, or you could watch it for a matter of seconds. So you have some irresponsible parenting, and all these other people assume that since they don't understand video games, that the irresponsible parents are simply victims of circumstances. Suddenly, this sounds like something every parent should know, a danger lurking in the shadows, and certainly something that will get people to read or watch whatever news there doing. Video Games are marketable news. And video games are just now starting to gain a prominence where the scapegoat can fight back.

Speaking of ignorence, theres also the matter of studies that, "Prove" that video games cause violence. That idea angers me both as a gamer and as someone with a Psychology degree. Its so easy for the Media to take a study, assume its absolute, and run a story on it. But these studies are junk. Some will say that video game players are more likely to be violent. Maybe its because gamers tend to be viewed as geeks, who tend to get picked on and teased, and therefore more likely to retaliate. Maybe a kid whose already violent looks to a violent game as an outlet. Theres plenty of more likely explainations then games causeing a violent hypnosis that urges players to kill. Other studies try to imitate a sort of Bobo doll study, and see if video games raise levels of aggression, and find that they do. Sound legitimate, but theres a big difference between noteing aggression on a survey, and being more likely to hurt someone. Theres many kinds of aggression. If you use this to condemn video games, then I raise this same criticism against all sports, and I have much better evidence that they are the root of violence (Soccer riots anyone?). The only study that would be relevant in showing a causal link between video games and violent behavior would be by forcing one group of kids to play video games, and the other half to not, and seeing which group behaves more violently. That might provide a moderate amount of evidence if done correctly, and is flagrently unethical and impractical. Its so easy to assume that the researchers know what they are talking about, but a lot of times they don't. Trusting a professional is not always a good idea.

So do I think the media attacks video games? Sometimes. But I think its out of ignorence and laziness. They run what seems marketable.
 

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Ok, here's the thing. In most cases (with the exception of Fox News or CNN), the media have "logical" claims. It's kind of like the Manhunt review with Zero Punctuation.

Now let me make some claims here. If any of you watch X-Play, you've probably seen that there is now a logical study showing that there is no correlation between violent video games and violent behavior in children. However, here is the issue I have with that. X-Play is obviously against claims that video games cause violent children, the same goes with the Escaptist, Gamespot and other gameing websites and television shows. So, I can's trust all of their claims, the same as how I can't trust Fox News and CNN for the extreme opposite reason.

Here's what I truely believe. Both sides have valid points, and both sides are right.

Think about it. The media is right in one regard. Mentally unstable children or children with anger/agression issues who are young can learn methods of killing people through video games. However, they are wrong in the regard that video games are the only method of learning such things. Anybody who has seen 3-4 episodes of Law and Order or CSI can probably learn just as much, if not more.

The video gaming communitty, however, is also right. Normal children and normal adults can probably realize the difference between right and wrong in the video games, and what is accplicable in real life. However, they are also wrong in saying that video games do not cause violence. It is quite obvious that it does cause violent behaivor. The study in X-Play's special segment even stated that children/young adults have about 30 minutes of a hyperactive adrenaline run, which they are more "violent".

So, I'm going out on a limb here and staying in the middle of the row.

Both are wrong and radically opposed with each other. What we need to stop the horrors of contraversy is for both sides to realize that there are tons of more important things to fight over and spend time on. AIDS? Cancer? No, let's talk about video games and violence in the media. Ignore the racial discrimination cases and the rapists out free to talk about Mass Effect's massive sex scene or GTAIV's ads on a bus.
 

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bulletproof12 said:
yeah media does poo all over gaming, its just what they do. but in all fairness i hear toys being yelled at cause they might have led baised paint in them.

the order of media juicyness

gaming=celebrities>1missing person>factory recall>real news
you should have between factory recall and real news "the plight of the third world".
or maybe that should be after real news?
 

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i would like to clear up now that by media i mean the news and other outlets of informasion to the public (not music but books can be included if they are about this subject)
 

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i would like to clear up now that by media i mean the news and other outlets of informasion to the public (not music but books can be included if they are about this subject)