Why dont gays get married on a BOAT

[verdant monkai]

Yay another homosexuality thread

I have not researched this but I imagine it should work.
The church doesn't want to marry gays so what about ship Captains?
They could by-pass the church completely.

some people offend very easily on this site to you people I say sorry I am not trying to upset anyone.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

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Priests aren't the only people who can marry people you know...

Not everybody has a religious wedding.

 

[verdant monkai]

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Priests aren't the only people who can marry people you know...

Not everybody has a religious wedding.

My point exactly why dont they get married on a boat
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(avoiding low content)

 

[Daystar Clarion]

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Priests aren't the only people who can marry people you know...

Not everybody has a religious wedding.

My point exactly why dont they get married on a boat
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(avoiding low content)

Because not everyone wants to get married by a ship captain?

 

[Kermi]

Marriages are not religious, they're legal contracts. Some people choose to have a religious ceremony, but that's their choice. It does not affect the legitimacy of their marriage under law or in any other way.

There's nothing stopping ship Captains from marrying gay couples in international waters, the problem is when they go home to where they live if gay marriage is not recognised in their state, they're prevented from enjoying the same rights as heterosexually married couples.

That's what the problem is. There's plenty of ways for gays to be married. The issue is whether those marriages are recognised legally.

 

[DANEgerous]

And then they land and the marriage is not valid. Regardless marriage has noting to do with the Church and there are Churches that allow gay marriage.

 

[Hazy992]

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Priests aren't the only people who can marry people you know...

Not everybody has a religious wedding.

My point exactly why dont they get married on a boat
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(avoiding low content)

Because not everyone wants to get married by a ship captain?

I think what he's trying to say is that if same-sex marriage isn't recognised where you live, why don't you go somewhere where the law doesn't matter; international waters? Problem with that is that the marriage still won't be recognised so it's pointless.

 

[DANEgerous]

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Priests aren't the only people who can marry people you know...

Not everybody has a religious wedding.

My point exactly why dont they get married on a boat
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(avoiding low content)

Because not everyone wants to get married by a ship captain?

How about totally epic doughnut shop owners?

 

[verdant monkai]

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Priests aren't the only people who can marry people you know...

Not everybody has a religious wedding.

My point exactly why dont they get married on a boat
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(avoiding low content)

Because not everyone wants to get married by a ship captain?

Why the fuck would you not want to be married by a sea captain?

 

[Keoul]

Why the fuck would you not want to be married by a sea captain?

It's quite a hassle...

 

[verdant monkai]

My point exactly why dont they get married on a boat

Ships sail under a flag, and whatever flag that is, those countries' laws apply on board in international waters. I'm not aware of any country that allows ship captains to perform marriages.

Marriage is not a matter of churches anyway. Why would those need bypassing? Marriage is the formal recognition of a relationship by the state.

Oh ok thanks so it is still to do with the country.
Marriage is everything to do with the church mate, it is the 'holy union between man and woman'.

 

[Giftfromme]

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Priests aren't the only people who can marry people you know...

Not everybody has a religious wedding.

My point exactly why dont they get married on a boat
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(avoiding low content)

Because not everyone wants to get married by a ship captain?

Why the fuck would you not want to be married by a sea captain?

I wanna be married by the sea captain from the Simpsons

 

[DANEgerous]

My point exactly why dont they get married on a boat

Ships sail under a flag, and whatever flag that is, those countries' laws apply on board in international waters. I'm not aware of any country that allows ship captains to perform marriages.

Marriage is not a matter of churches anyway. Why would those need bypassing? Marriage is the formal recognition of a relationship by the state.

Marriage is everything to do with the church mate, it is the 'holy union between man and woman'.

Damn internet, all global and shit. I have to say it is not this in many countries, it is just a legal contract. so yeah that is why everyone is saying this.

Hell in America you can get married by anyone you want, it just does not count under the law in most places.

 

[verdant monkai]

Marriage is everything to do with the church mate, it is the 'holy union between man and woman'.

Uh, nope. It is not. The religious rituals carried out by various churches are meaningless, even if they call them marriage. Some countries have made the mistake of recognizing religious rituals like a marriage, but others have not.

For instance under Dutch law, when a priest performs a marriage ritual between two unmarried people, he commits a crime and is punished by a fine of the 4th category (up to ?19500), and 2 months unconditional prison sentence if he offends against within five years. The lawmaker wanted to make really sure there was no risk of anyone misunderstanding that marriage is a matter of the state, and not the church.

Call it what you want marriage is widely recognised as a religious ceremony and has been for hundreds of years of human history. What marriage means really all depends on if you are religious or not, or more importantly if the country you live in is religious. I am not saying you are wrong just that people have different ideas of what marriage is.

 

[Kermi]

Call it what you want marriage is widely recognised as a religious ceremony and has been for hundreds of years of human history. What marriage means really all depends on if you are religious or not, or more importantly if the country you live in is religious. I am not saying you are wrong just that people have different ideas of what marriage is.

Sorry, no. Marriage is a legal contract. People can have religious ceremonies, but they're still signing the same legal contract as someone who gets married by a celebrant outside of a Church. It is perceived as a religious practice by religious people, and that's fine. I can marry two people in my house and call them legally wed under the laws of KermiLand, but that ends at my front door and no authority in the world would recognise the union under any kind of civil law. IT's the same with religious marriages. You can go to a church and say the words, but unless you sign the contract your wedding means exactly dick.

Religious laws only apply in religious countries, of which there are increasingly few. Most if not all countries are officially secular, and the Church is now the law. We had this little thing called the separation of church and state. Maybe you've heard of it?

 

[Keoul]

Oh ok thanks so it is still to do with the country.
Marriage is everything to do with the church mate, it is the 'holy union between man and woman'.

If that were true why are there asian weddings? Chinese people got married long before The British came and brought in Christianity and it's many other forms.

 

[DANEgerous]

Marriage is everything to do with the church mate, it is the 'holy union between man and woman'.

Uh, nope. It is not. The religious rituals carried out by various churches are meaningless, even if they call them marriage. Some countries have made the mistake of recognizing religious rituals like a marriage, but others have not.

For instance under Dutch law, when a priest performs a marriage ritual between two unmarried people, he commits a crime and is punished by a fine of the 4th category (up to ?19500), and 2 months unconditional prison sentence if he offends against within five years. The lawmaker wanted to make really sure there was no risk of anyone misunderstanding that marriage is a matter of the state, and not the church.

Call it what you want marriage is widely recognised as a religious ceremony and has been for hundreds of years of human history. What marriage means really all depends on if you are religious or not, or more importantly if the country you live in is religious. I am not saying you are wrong just that people have different ideas of what marriage is.

So if my idea of marriage is exclusively between two men does that make both of us bastards? I can make any one i want out to literary be a bastard if i can just freely define marriage. Marriage is only vaild if you have blond hair, marriage is only valid if you are a jew, marriage is only valid if you pre-order Tom Clancy's future solder and own at least 3 dogs and have never before eaten tomatoes.

Sure people have different ideas of marriage but they should not have the ability to deny others their ideas of marriage within reason. And by withing reason I mean within the law, you can not marry a 4 year old because they have not right to a lgal contract anyway and almost certainly do not understand what marriage is

 

[verdant monkai]

So if my idea of marriage is exclusively between two men does that make both of us bastards? I can make any one i want out to literary be a bastard if i can just freely define marriage. Marriage is only vaild if you have blond hair, marriage is only valid if you are a jew, marriage is only valid if you pre-order Tom Clancy's future solder and own at least 3 dogs and have never before eaten tomatoes.

Sure people have different ideas of marriage but they should not have the ability to deny others their ideas of marriage within reason. And by withing reason I mean within the law, you can not marry a 4 year old because they have not right to a lgal contract anyway and almost certainly do not understand what marriage is

CHILL OUT

I don't know what your problem is but I am not trying to deny anyone their idea of marriage. I just think in our society the church has a level of traditional involvement. So I may disagree with people but I am not forcing my view and demanding its acceptance.

I don't see how you came to the conclusion you did. I actually find your whole response confusing and bearing little relevance to my replies to that other guy. With regards to being bastards what the hell are you talking about? A bastard is someone who's parents had them out of wed lock, so you cannot really become one or be made one. You just are or are not, don't know what happens if your parents get married or divorced, but you get the drift.