well 90% of people are assholesNomanslander said:Well, sex on the side, I think people really just don't know how to get along, especially amongst the sexes.
Here in the states most women are self-absorbed prudes with daddy issues and a princess complex. While most of the guys are spineless pu**ywhipped jellyfish that are still afraid to flirt with women well into their 30s, that or Jersey Shore alpha male assholes...-_-
But that's just my observation, not sure how other countries work...=P
Yeah, I feel the same way. Sex is a important part of life but it's not the only important part and I think sometimes people get a litte too obsessed with it.New Troll said:Sex is fine for some people I guess but personally sex is only gratifying to me when it's counterparted by love. I'd much rather have Mario with a lightsaber than meaningless sex, and I don't even care for Mario nor lightsabers.
How about me? I'm asexual, and I'm not "bitter and jaded" about sex as you say. I recognize why people want or need to have sex, and even the idea of having sex myself doesn't bother me. I just don't need it or want it myself, I'm happy and content without it, and I am not pretentious to believe that everyone else should think the same way I do.Stasisesque said:Ah, fair enough. That's not something I'd class as mocking; rather that brings to mind school playground teasing amounting to bullying for the sake of peer pressure. Light hearted competitive behaviour over who's tagged the most etc. is fairly common, but it is so in other "hobbies", gaming et al - everyone wants to be the best (and yes, the best is often seen as who's had the most sex with the most attractive women - not condoning it, not condemning it). As for women - honestly, I don't know, though I really should. With women it seems to be more common to put sexual partners down, "So and so doesn't know what s/he's doing," and such.Monkfish Acc. said:Okay, seriously, you have never noticed dudes continually going off on each other about how much "pussy" they get?Stasisesque said:I do have to wonder how old you are that you honestly believe those who aren't having regular/any sexual contact at all are mocked. Unless, of course, all of your social interaction comes in the form of internet forums - then yes, that seems to be a theme (the alternate being the mocking of those who do enjoy regular sexual contact).
It's incredibly tricky to explain to anyone asexual what the desire for sexual contact is, much in the same way you're going to have a tough time explaining the lack of it to anyone who isn't asexual; but essentially, yes, it's fun. Endorphins are released, so everything's all happy-happy-joy, it's exercise, it's something you can improve at. There are lots of reasons people enjoy casual, meaningless sex. There's every chance sex without reproduction is trivial and stupid - but if it makes people feel good, s'all good.
And it's not just dudes. Women of all ages do this passive aggressive shit about who they are fucking and how much and how good it is. You never see any of that?
Cork is perhaps the shittiest county in Ireland, but I struggle to believe that that kind of behaviour is restricted to my area. I see it in movies, too, so it must be a thing elsewhere.
And yeah, it's pretty fucking difficult explaining the lack of it. Half the time people think I'm mentally or physically ill somehow.
Honestly, I don't expect anyone to be able to explain sexual desire to me. It's just not something I can get. I have nothing to compare it to.
I am just drunk, ill and slightly delirious. It is a wonderful cocktail for bitching about how people don't make sense to me.
But that's just life.
People confusing asexuals with the mentally/physically ill/lying/celibate might be down to the horrible internet representation they get, I've yet to meet a single person who identifies as asexual who isn't also bitter and jaded.
Nothing to do with sex, it's just my personal experience, every person I've met online (there have been an awful lot) who identifies as asexual has been bitter and jaded about life in general. I presume that is why you do get those who'll mistake asexualism for involuntary celibacy, or some sort of crazy mental disorder.Hap2 said:How about me? I'm asexual, and I'm not "bitter and jaded" about sex as you say. I recognize why people want or need to have sex, and even the idea of having sex myself doesn't bother me. I just don't need it or want it myself, I'm happy and content without it, and I am not pretentious to believe that everyone else should think the same way I do.Stasisesque said:Ah, fair enough. That's not something I'd class as mocking; rather that brings to mind school playground teasing amounting to bullying for the sake of peer pressure. Light hearted competitive behaviour over who's tagged the most etc. is fairly common, but it is so in other "hobbies", gaming et al - everyone wants to be the best (and yes, the best is often seen as who's had the most sex with the most attractive women - not condoning it, not condemning it). As for women - honestly, I don't know, though I really should. With women it seems to be more common to put sexual partners down, "So and so doesn't know what s/he's doing," and such.Monkfish Acc. said:Okay, seriously, you have never noticed dudes continually going off on each other about how much "pussy" they get?Stasisesque said:I do have to wonder how old you are that you honestly believe those who aren't having regular/any sexual contact at all are mocked. Unless, of course, all of your social interaction comes in the form of internet forums - then yes, that seems to be a theme (the alternate being the mocking of those who do enjoy regular sexual contact).
It's incredibly tricky to explain to anyone asexual what the desire for sexual contact is, much in the same way you're going to have a tough time explaining the lack of it to anyone who isn't asexual; but essentially, yes, it's fun. Endorphins are released, so everything's all happy-happy-joy, it's exercise, it's something you can improve at. There are lots of reasons people enjoy casual, meaningless sex. There's every chance sex without reproduction is trivial and stupid - but if it makes people feel good, s'all good.
And it's not just dudes. Women of all ages do this passive aggressive shit about who they are fucking and how much and how good it is. You never see any of that?
Cork is perhaps the shittiest county in Ireland, but I struggle to believe that that kind of behaviour is restricted to my area. I see it in movies, too, so it must be a thing elsewhere.
And yeah, it's pretty fucking difficult explaining the lack of it. Half the time people think I'm mentally or physically ill somehow.
Honestly, I don't expect anyone to be able to explain sexual desire to me. It's just not something I can get. I have nothing to compare it to.
I am just drunk, ill and slightly delirious. It is a wonderful cocktail for bitching about how people don't make sense to me.
But that's just life.
People confusing asexuals with the mentally/physically ill/lying/celibate might be down to the horrible internet representation they get, I've yet to meet a single person who identifies as asexual who isn't also bitter and jaded.
You might want to go to the AVEN website, and take a look around before making such a hasty generalization that "no asexual is sex-positive", because some of us indeed are sex-positive.
As for the OT, as I said here, I don't need or want sex, I'm living a fairly content life without it.
Sigmund Freud was a cocaine addled sex fiend with remarkably little insight into the workings of the human mind. Care to define for me, for example, what exactly a 'superego' is, and where I can find one? Psychology is pseudo-science at best, Freud doubly so.Scissors61 said:I would suggest you read up on a man named Sigmund Freud,he had a lot to say about sex, andFoolishman1776 said:Here's the thing, almost all of the benefits described in that article can be gained by playing a game of football. As for the 'boosting intimacy' bit, yes, that's why you engage in the activity with one person of the opposite sex, whom you swear to for life. As for boosting self esteem, you know you can get just as big a boost by say, building a bird house? Best part is, the birdhouse is something concrete that you can look at and say 'I built that'. With sex, however, once the night is over, it's over, and if your lady/gentleman of an evening was not happy with your performance, you can lose self esteem as they spread nasty rumors about you. You make it sound as if the only way to be healthy is to have lots of sex, this is not true. In fact, I believe it is a dangerous lie.HellsingerAngel said:How terribly narrow-minded. Good to know the only reason to have sex is to make babies. Because, y'know, it has nothing to do with an expression of passion or deep seeded attraction/love for a person. That would be silly.Foolishman1776 said:Because, first off, and this never happens for some people. Once you GROW UP and get rid of the teenage hormones you realize there is more to life then getting your rocks off. Because sex in any other case than to produce offspring is a waste of time, and spreads disease. Because sex rapidly becomes an addiction, and like any addiction, takes priority over all other considerations, like eating. Also, sexual frustration is not the cause of all the world's evils, that's a load of hogwash put forth by closet sex addicts to attempt to justify their selfish behavior.
I agree, there is more to life than getting your rocks off. However, getting your rocks off is apart of life and one that humans tend to neglect to a large degree. As you've put it, once you grow up, you should realise, as an adult, that while you shouldn't nessesarily be fucking everything with two legs that are wide open, you do need to indulge on a regular basis to be a well adjusted individual. Anything but will start to have negative reprecussions on your life and this thread is not just about having tons of sex, but the possible benefits of having a healthy sex life.
The other things I'd like to point out is your claims to sex becoming an addiction, for anyone, very quickly. Are you just stupid? Yes, sex has addictive properies. You know what else does? Food! Books! Video games! Almsot anything that gives positive stimulation to your brain has, in some shape or form, addictive properties. Good job on being yet another person to take that to an extreme and say "sex is 100% addictive" because it has the properties to be so. Responsible people don't get addicted and have very meaningful, healthy relationships with various partners during their years of being sexually active. Just because some people get addicted to it, doesn't mean it's bad.
Lastly, I'd like to touch on your last comment, which seems extremely out of line. All people who say sex can be rooted to issues within someone's life are sex additcs? Well, good to know all those studies that doctors perform on psychological studies relating to sex are all useless. Because, y'know, a group all with doctorates successfully corrolating the build up of stess within one's life to something as simple as not having a roll in the hay once in awhile have no idea what they're talking about. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is proven that having sex does improve your life, so long as you're responcible about it. Do a quick google search and you'll find plenty on the subject of how sex can improve one's life emotionally, physically and mentally. I actually just did one myself and CBS had an interetsing little article on "Top Ten Reasons To Have Sex". While I would say there are more in-depth articles on each of these topics, it certainly runs the gambit on why you should have sex: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/03/24/health/webmd/main3961093.shtml
How about the drawbacks of sex? How about the fact that it spreads disease, and causes unwanted pregnancies? Most diseases you get from sex are diseases you will never get rid of, and even 'safe' sex is not a guarantee. Not having sex, however can promise you will never get, say, AIDS.
As for your comment about 'needing to indulge regularly to be a well adjusted individual', I have to ask, why? Can you justify this statement? If I choose to forswear sex because I believe that the risks do not justify the reward, how am I 'poorly adjusted'? Or for that matter, if I decide that the only person I want to have sex with is the person with whom I will build a family for the rest of my life, why is that not my choice to make?
So, basically there are productive things with health benefits and long term rewards that aren't sex; sex spreads disease and makes unwanted children outside of wedlock, and if someone chooses not to indulge, then what's the problem? Again, I make the statement that people who speak as you do are essentially sex addicts attempting to justify their behavior.
I want to nitpick your last paragraph there a bit. First off, what people with doctorates? Don't tell me to 'google it' I'm not here to research for your arguments. Second of all, you say they 'correlate' stress with not having sex? Correlation does NOT imply causation. If they cannot prove a causal link then what they are doing is making an interesting observation. As for 'all these people with doctorates', yes, they can be wrong. There are any number of reasons why this might be, not the least of which being they REALLY want it to be true. As for sex having health benefits, this I will not deny, but the real question is, does it have health benefits that a person could get from other, less risky activities? If the answer is anything other than 'absolutely, without question, completely, yes', then sex is not necessary for life. If it not necessary for life, then what's wrong with going without it?
I would go so far as to say that making people feel PRESSURED into having sex WHETHER THEY WANT TO OR NOT, because 'normal' people want to have sex is irresponsible, judgmental, and silly.
anyone who has a doctrate in psychology owes a great deal to the man. Anyone who uses psychoanalysis might agree a great deal with the "roll in the hay" comment.
As for the topic of the whole thread, my answer is: Because people has more important things
to do, like squabble with each other on video game forums!![]()