Why EA are a good fit for BioWare.

[MercurySteam]

You can guess at EA's motives, but i deal in cold hard facts. And the facts are that EA, as a company, do something that goes against good business practices in order for the aesthetic feel of a games case to not be compromised. That shows the utmost respect to the developer.

Yeah, I agree that the EA logs are great, but they're not the only thing EA has to offer when publishing a great game for a reputable developer. If that's what appeals to you most, then more power to ya'. For me however when you notice that half of the games in your library are published by the same company, you know they've gotta be doing something right.

 

[A Curious Fellow]

OP is pointing to a logo as overwhelming evidence of goodwill and benevolence?

Someone please ban this obvious Electronic Arts PR bot.


EDIT: Ohhhh.... it's an April fools joke. My B.

 

[PhiMed]

LOL at people getting angry about April fool's troll.

 

[Misho-]

I think the whole point is moot. People always like to have a good blame figure around and there's no better target than a big bloated company. Electronic Arts was one of the companies that pushed this industry (video games/pc gaming) like no other in the past (yeah, I know there's a ton more). But the more time that has passed the more "Big Eveel Corporate" feeling gets from the consumer populace.

Actually, this happens to everything and everyone. I'm sure in the future (not far from now) people will be complaining about Mojang being an evil developer (maybe even publisher... who knows) wanting only money and milking their consumers for more cash.

The thing is, I'm sure EA isn't filled with bad, money hungry suits who don't understand the meaning of fun/good products. I mean, I can almost bet there's loads of people utterly devoted to their stuff. Same as in Bioware...

I mean just a couple of months ago we were all (the vast mayority) singing praises about the Game of the Year Mass Effect 2!!! (So yeah, I'm pretty glad EA has Bioware's back to keep publishing games.)

But now? (Like 3 months after) Well for all the Haters (of Bioware/EA/Both), Dragon Age 2 was a perfect opportunity.

What I really hate about EA it it's marketing department... See Extra Credits episode on a message to EA.

 

[ZeroMachine]

Yes, you are being needlessly rude.

As far as i'm aware this is a video games forum and not a clown convention. Writing off somebodies thoughts as a silly attempt at humour, simply because it is April the 1st, is rude.

I didn't make a counter-point to your counter-point for two reasons.

1) As i stated, i have little to no desire to engage somebody with no manners.

2) It's not really worth retorting. My entire point was about brand identity, which EA willingly diminish in order to make a video game case look cooler. Whether the higher-ups make that decision or not is irrelevant.

You can guess at EA's motives, but i deal in cold hard facts. And the facts are that EA, as a company, do something that goes against good business practices in order for the aesthetic feel of a games case to not be compromised. That shows the utmost respect to the developer.

Stop it with the "better than thou" attitude. It does nothing for you.

And if you really think that they're diminishing their logo? Heh... look at what you're doing. Praising EA. There is no diminishing going on here. It's sticking out, making it so people KNOW it's an "EA" game, and they're "fun and creative", garnering them praise for the wrong reason.

As I assumed, you have no interest in even having your point brought into question. You call me needlessly rude, I call you pompous. Your thread is going nowhere. There is no discussion value, because you're refusing to actually discuss.

I'd prefer dealing with a clown convention over dealing with someone like you. At least the clowns would make me laugh.

And now, I'm off to continue playing Dragon Age II. Farewell, serah!

 

[rockingnic]

Although EA isn't that bad for a publishing company, they still force some developers to release a new game every one to two years when it's far from necessary. The logo thing, as far I'm concerned, is just another way saying "You're mine, I own you." It doesn't matter if they tailored the logo for each game. It could actually be a marketing strategy that makes you believe that they care more than really do but that's just speculation on my part but possible nonetheless.

 

[jpoon]

Don't buy this for a second. I could have designed these logos pretty easily. Not hard to do. I still think EA is a fuckbag corporation, that will likely never change. Look at Shift 2 for how much "love" they have for the gamers, this game has some serious problems (wheel input lag, graphic issues, cars on ice, constant crashes). If they really loved the devs and the people so much they would have had SMS actually finish and QA test the game.

 

[YesConsiderably]

Your thread is going nowhere. There is no discussion value, because you're refusing to actually discuss.

The thread isn't going anywhere because you are, apparently, completely ignorant to the idea of brand recognition. Put simply, it is the reason Mercedes use the same logo on all of their cars.

What EA do is unprecedented and goes against what is commonly accepted to be sound business practice. That they are taking such a risk, in order to afford their developers complete control over the artistic side of their product, is to applauded.

I'm not sure why you're trying to disagree.

 

[Vykrel]

i gotta say that i do love how EA allows the developers to use the EA logo in a way that relates entirely to their game.

and its fun to see what they come up with

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcQXsbrAdIw

watch that video if you want to see a lot of the EA logos...

but one thing i dont like that EA does, is that they often turn a company into "EA (Location)" after buying them. imo, it takes away from the developers originality and independency from the rest of EA and just makes them look like another piece of the machine.

at least they can get their own new name like Visceral and Danger Close, if they become popular enough

 

[Xaositect]

Lol, classy man. I like it.

Personally, I think its six of one and half a dozen of the other. EA isnt some bully twisting the weaker kid Biowares arm into making the games they want.

I think they are both now little more than money grubbing shits, and it shows in the quality of their recent releases, DLC and games. Bioware, in the space of 2-3 years have destroyed over 10 years of complete and utter adoration from me.

I dont really give a shit if EA helped out a lot, it doesnt change much in the bigger picture. Bioware willingly jumped into bed with the abusive pimp that is EA, so its their fault too.

 

[DustyDrB]

A tip for everyone today: Assume every new thread you go into is an April Fool's joke. Then maybe some of you won't get so angry...

 

[Hader]

While it is nice EA does this, it does not justify anything really. It is a small, aesthetic difference between them and other publishers. I think you are looking too far into it, giving it reason where it has little.

 

[Xenmut]

Brand Recognition.. lol

Mercedez: Elegant brand of expensive cars
EA: International distribuitor of games

*english accent* C'mon guys.

C'mon, if you are triying to make a prank take it seriously, cuz youre talking of oil on water with this example.

Why doesnt Mercedez change theyr logo? cuz they classy and traditional (b-sides, why on earth they would want to change theyr awesome logo from car to car? that's just lack of business experience, they are a name, a brand.)
why EA does? cuz its awesome for ppl like us, and.. they dont really really change, they stay EA, but the theme it with the game, that's different. They dont loose at any moment theyr Visual Identity(circle, letters), that's called themed application in my business (im a designer btw).

Pepsi: oh man they have changed they logo many times, just you dont know how, Like Oreos.
.. i could give you more examples.. but i dont remember none nor wouldnt help here xD

Well yes, its not new, but it makes its work, i love the one on crysis 2. That doesnt make EA good, although they know what they r doing they do push theyr game developers and that sux: Yes they want money, yes they have done it before (even with previous origins members {see ultima saga story and why they quited origins after joining EA}), they take risk with games cuz that made em huge. But that doesnt make em that good. I've got my way of thinking over EA and disagree with you.

But before i lend you those thoughts.. now what with the logo again? hehe good prank but weak grounds for ppl who know the busyness.

(i kno, i actually didnt care for writing correctly, im not being rude, im in internet =3)

 

[YesConsiderably]

You obviously don't know business, Xenmet. If you did, you'd understand the difference between changing your company logo, and altering it slightly for each item it appears on.

Pepsi have changed their logo, like many companies, but it's not really the same. If Pepsi were a game publisher, things would go like this.

Every game they published before they changed their logo would feature the exact same logo, and every game they published after they changed their logo would feature the exact same logo.

Thank you for agreeing with me on Mercedes though. They don't change their logo from car to car because they have established a brand identity which serves them well.

 

[SageRuffin]

You guys are all terrible. Maybe the guy/girl is right, and maybe he/she is not. But to call him/her a troll just because he/she happens to post on April Fools Day - one of the most childish and pointless holidays in the US - is just... I can't even think of the appropriate term, but it's not good.

I will say this much: EA may be making sure that their logo is obscured enough so that the developers get their proper recognition, but it says nothing about some choices of box-art (ME2 immediately comes to mind)...

 

[FieryTrainwreck]

Man defends greedy corporation co-opting the logos of their subsidiary development studios.

I die a little more inside.

Life goes on.

 

[YesConsiderably]

You guys are all terrible. Maybe the guy/girl is right, and maybe he/she is not. But to call him/her a troll just because he/she happens to post on April Fools Day - one of the most childish and pointless holidays in the US - is just... I can't even think of the appropriate term, but it's not good.

I will say this much: EA may be making sure that their logo is obscured enough so that the developers get their proper recognition, but it says nothing about some choices of box-art (ME2 immediately comes to mind)...

Thank you. Accusing someone of joking based on the day of the year it is, is one of the dumber things i have seen on the internet.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I just dislike their DLC policies. Didn't DA2 have something like 20 day 1 DLCs?

That just seems ridiculous to me and not only greedy, it unbalances the game (I refused to use my Blood Dragon armour in my first playthrough, it was hugely overpowered at such a low level)

 

[SpartanBlackman]

Most people don't see what would be bad for delaying DA2 for a "few" months to finish it.
3+ months is The Old Republic, not counting the money printing machine of Portal2 that dominates april. If they had the extra half a year that most people say the game "Needed" for it to be finished, then it would have come out next to Gears of war 3, or Arkham city. And if they had waited for wither of those to pass, then they risk getting too close to ME3 or Skyrim. Any RPG released 2-3 months next to Skyrim would be just plain silly. it wasn't the perfect choice, and it feels like I'm playing KoTOR2 all over again, but it was good by EA, and they do not deserve all the crap they get for the decision. EA doesn't break games if you try to install it somewhere else, nor make you pay $10 for a code to play online, or purposely kill franchises. It's one of the best biggest publishers. They want to protect their money, but they don't ruin the industry for it.

Now, EA, buy Bethesda, lock all the employees in with Bioware's employees with ample provisions and the best gaming tech money can buy and see what comes out after 3-4 years.