The reason why you have to go to Ravenholm is that when you pass by the door to Ravenholm Alyx shivers and says "We don't go there anymore". That's why you go to Ravenholm.
There was no reason to even start to go to Ravenholm. What did they have outside? A battalion of soldiers? Maybe two? That's not really that scary when you've already fought through twice that many just to get to the base in the first place. Doesn't Eli get captured as a direct result of you fucking off to Ravenholm rather than staying to defend, so you have to go into the Citadel itself to rescue him?maddawg IAJI said:Because the rubble weighed too much, even for the regularly powered Gravity Gun?Souplex said:The point was so they could shove the gimmick weapon in your face for a whole level instead of just isolated bits. I don't see why you couldn't just use the gravity gun to move the rubble out of your way.
Why is there even a thread about this? Are you trying to find logic in a video game about a world where Earth was invaded by aliens that use giant daddy long leg aliens as artillery and where the main character is a Scientist who's trademark weapon is a crowbar?
But in short, you basically had two options. Wait for Dog to dig you out while the Combine land in the courtyard outside and come out you from the other end (All the while, you have no cover and a limited amount of ammo) or you slip into Ravenholm in an attempt to evade your pursuers and finding a way back to the others.
While both are seemingly death traps, the Ravenholm plan has SOME chance for survival.
The Combine soldiers are after you. The Resistance is a bonus at best. Freeman is the figure head of the resistance, he is seen as the Guy. The guy who will turn the tides and win the war etc etc. Now what happens if this guy dies? Morale drops, troops lose the will to fight and your resistance is crushed because your tank with feet guy ran out of gas and was turned into swiss cheese, not by a battalion or two, but by a never ending wave of Combine Soldiers barreling at him with Plasma Rifles, and thats IF he stayed inside.Amnestic said:There was no reason to even start to go to Ravenholm. What did they have outside? A battalion of soldiers? Maybe two? That's not really that scary when you've already fought through twice that many just to get to the base in the first place. Doesn't Eli get captured as a direct result of you fucking off to Ravenholm rather than staying to defend, so you have to go into the Citadel itself to rescue him?maddawg IAJI said:Because the rubble weighed too much, even for the regularly powered Gravity Gun?Souplex said:The point was so they could shove the gimmick weapon in your face for a whole level instead of just isolated bits. I don't see why you couldn't just use the gravity gun to move the rubble out of your way.
Why is there even a thread about this? Are you trying to find logic in a video game about a world where Earth was invaded by aliens that use giant daddy long leg aliens as artillery and where the main character is a Scientist who's trademark weapon is a crowbar?
But in short, you basically had two options. Wait for Dog to dig you out while the Combine land in the courtyard outside and come out you from the other end (All the while, you have no cover and a limited amount of ammo) or you slip into Ravenholm in an attempt to evade your pursuers and finding a way back to the others.
While both are seemingly death traps, the Ravenholm plan has SOME chance for survival.
Ep. 1 shows us that the Combine's technologically-superior helmets didn't do much to protect them- the headcrabs just took off everything above the jaw. I don't think a vintage half-sphere of steel only kept on by a leather strap would put up a better fight.Serenegoose said:The bigger question is - are the resistance too inept to raid museums and steal WW1 era german helmets as headcrab defense, or did the combine see such an obvious threat to their reign of terror, and 'suppress' them all? :O
Well yeah, but....Why not just use actual bombs?Serenegoose said:The combine have infinite resources - headcrabs are terrifying. Saturation bomb an area with headcrab shells, and not only will that town shut up, but every other one will shut up too. Weird thing, people don't like being transformed into still conscious mutated zombies.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:Yeah, pretty much this. Besides, the Combine won't follow into a crab-infested town.randomsix said:Didn't the ceiling collapse and separate you from alex?
My question would be, why does the Combine use Crabs as a weapon in the first place? It seems a little imprecise and easy to evade.
Because Actual bombs are expensive and throwing a parasite in a tube and launching it out is a hell of a lot cheaper and is guaranteed to cause panic.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:Well yeah, but....Why not just use actual bombs?Serenegoose said:The combine have infinite resources - headcrabs are terrifying. Saturation bomb an area with headcrab shells, and not only will that town shut up, but every other one will shut up too. Weird thing, people don't like being transformed into still conscious mutated zombies.Frozen Donkey Wheel2 said:Yeah, pretty much this. Besides, the Combine won't follow into a crab-infested town.randomsix said:Didn't the ceiling collapse and separate you from alex?
My question would be, why does the Combine use Crabs as a weapon in the first place? It seems a little imprecise and easy to evade.
True, but their helmets don't stab headcrabs to death whilst they try and latch on.The Rogue Wolf said:Ep. 1 shows us that the Combine's technologically-superior helmets didn't do much to protect them- the headcrabs just took off everything above the jaw. I don't think a vintage half-sphere of steel only kept on by a leather strap would put up a better fight.Serenegoose said:The bigger question is - are the resistance too inept to raid museums and steal WW1 era german helmets as headcrab defense, or did the combine see such an obvious threat to their reign of terror, and 'suppress' them all? :O
Don't they first latch on at the face, not the tip of the head? And how can you be sure if your helmet won't get knocked off as it is latching on?Serenegoose said:True, but their helmets don't stab headcrabs to death whilst they try and latch on.The Rogue Wolf said:Ep. 1 shows us that the Combine's technologically-superior helmets didn't do much to protect them- the headcrabs just took off everything above the jaw. I don't think a vintage half-sphere of steel only kept on by a leather strap would put up a better fight.Serenegoose said:The bigger question is - are the resistance too inept to raid museums and steal WW1 era german helmets as headcrab defense, or did the combine see such an obvious threat to their reign of terror, and 'suppress' them all? :OYou can kill them with bullets easy enough, impaling ought to work.
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Dog can climb sheer cliff faces. Gordon cant.spectrenihlus said:Yes but she tells you to go through Ravenholm and then for Dog to circle around and get back to you.randomsix said:Didn't the ceiling collapse and separate you from alex?
Oops I meant circle around and get back to Alyx.
Dude, you're asking the wrong question here. The real problem isn't to do with space, it's to do with TIME. To demonstrate:spectrenihlus said:I was replaying Half Life 2 the other day and I was thinking to myself while disemboweling zombies with the buzz saw gravity gun combo;" Why did Alyx tell me to go this way"? Seriously it isn't as if you are trapped and the only way out was going through Ravenholm. If that were the case wouldn't Dog have gone with you. I know it wasn't to keep you safe so why did Alyx tell you to go that way? Was the reason just so we can see Father "Batman" Grigori?
Gordon can ride on Dog's back.Canid117 said:Dog can climb sheer cliff faces. Gordon cant.spectrenihlus said:Yes but she tells you to go through Ravenholm and then for Dog to circle around and get back to you.randomsix said:Didn't the ceiling collapse and separate you from alex?
Oops I meant circle around and get back to Alyx.
Bad idea when there are gunships shooting at you. Dog is bulletproof. Gordon is bullet resistant.spectrenihlus said:Gordon can ride on Dog's back.Canid117 said:Dog can climb sheer cliff faces. Gordon cant.spectrenihlus said:Yes but she tells you to go through Ravenholm and then for Dog to circle around and get back to you.randomsix said:Didn't the ceiling collapse and separate you from alex?
Oops I meant circle around and get back to Alyx.
The once they've shown it happening (in HL1) the headcrab leaps from behind, over the top of the head, sinking their claws into the chest, and latching onto the entire head in a single motion. In HL2, you see a man briefly wrestle with a headcrab, and it's trying to latch on by grabbing the entirety of the head (from above) in a single motion. I guess it could knock the helmet off, but if you secure it properly... That said, it might just survive anyway. They seem to be pretty hardy creatures (3 bullets to kill!) and they take a lot more to put down once latched onto a zombie, so they evidently become semi-symbiotic, rather than purely parasitic, as the host increases the crabs ability to endure punishment.maddawg IAJI said:Don't they first latch on at the face, not the tip of the head? And how can you be sure if your helmet won't get knocked off as it is latching on?
Hello, and welcome to the Escapist!pspman45 said:the answer is very simple
Valve wanted a zombie chapter
its a pretty damn good one too, why the hell are you complaining about it?
EcksTeaSea said:I am pretty sure you were trapped and the only way out of there was through Ravenholm. Only other exit would have probably gotten you killed by the Combine. Besides, meeting that priest made Ravenholm all worth it. That entire level was pretty great.
Are you kidding, I fucking hate that level! God damn Headcrabs. Though, I agree that the priest it cool.Marik2 said:Yeah my thoughts exactly the priest was a cool guy.
Well I thought it captured the feel of actually fighting in a zombie infested place.Mr. Gency said:EcksTeaSea said:I am pretty sure you were trapped and the only way out of there was through Ravenholm. Only other exit would have probably gotten you killed by the Combine. Besides, meeting that priest made Ravenholm all worth it. That entire level was pretty great.Are you kidding, I fucking hate that level! God damn Headcrabs. Though, I agree that the priest it cool.Marik2 said:Yeah my thoughts exactly the priest was a cool guy.
[sub]Fucking Headcrabs...[/sub]
That would be too epic for any computer to handle.spectrenihlus said:Gordon can ride on Dog's back.Canid117 said:Dog can climb sheer cliff faces. Gordon cant.spectrenihlus said:Yes but she tells you to go through Ravenholm and then for Dog to circle around and get back to you.randomsix said:Didn't the ceiling collapse and separate you from alex?
Oops I meant circle around and get back to Alyx.