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imahobbit4062 said:
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i will repeat for those who didnt read it the first time i dont care about your reasons for hating on invisible children because hating on it was unnecessary and did nothing positive at all, nothing all you did was destroy a mans life work and actively campaign against a charity that is doing something that you have to admit is good (you cant say that bringing some one to justice who turned 10 year old girls into drug whores is not a good thing) and it ended in some guy going crazy

this is my final word if you cant see that what you did was even slightly wrong im not gong to change your mind and im not going to waste my time trying to reason with you
The charity only donates 30% of their profits, and his cause is several years late. Tell me how that is positive?
i thought i just said im not wasting my time on you anymore? take the hint and stop sending your crap to my message box ive heard all the BS excuses haters use before ill probably hear it again and it will never convince me that hating on the charity invisible children is right because ive looked at the facts myself and come to the conclusion that even though i dont support invisible children that destroying it (like your doing) isnt the right thing to do
 

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the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
okay the reason why is that the internet had opportunity to do something good, yes maybe it wasn't something great and better things could be done but we had opportunity to do something really good by bringing some one who killed hundreds of people, made hundreds of children into drug slaves and destroyed thousands of lives to justice

but instead everyone jumped on a huge hater band wagon mostly for small, petty, illegitimate reasons or even down right lies, its true that there are some legitimate reasons to disagree with invisible children but only 1% of hater's ive seen use them and these people couldn't disagree quietly no they went about trying to destroy all of invisible children's support with the same energy and determination were if the same energy and determination were used to support kony 2012 this guy would probably have been bought to justice by now but instead they destroyed the life work of a guy who was trying to do something good and could have succeeded, and destroyed it to such a degree he got high on drugs and ran round the street naked and now people are dancing on his corpse, i hope your happy haters you win congratulations i hope your really proud of yourself and the worst part is that all this grew from an opportunity to do something good.

dont bother commenting trying to excuse your behavior or explain to me why destroying this guys life was the correct thing to do because it wasnt and under no circumstance would destroying this guys life be acceptable when all he was trying to do was bring an evil person to justice and you destroyed him for it

if you hated in invisible children you should be fucking ashamed of yourself
Yes, clearly we haters are the ones responsible for this mans decesion to do drugs and then run around naked in the streets. We forced him... nay! WE BULLIED HIM INTO HIS NEGATIVE CHOICE!

KONY ISN'T THE REAL MONSTER, WE ARE!

...

>.> #AreYouSeriousBro?

hey man, some people don't appreciate a social issue being forced on them, no matter what that issue is.
dude if your life work was destroyed by internet trolls i bet you would go downhill fast, i think i would probably go nuts over it hell it upsets me just watching it happen to some one else

people hating on invisible children probably wasnt the only reason why he went crazy but it was definitely a BIG factor and the bottom line was that there was no reason for this to happen but people wanted to see a charity devoted to bringing an evil man to justice fail.

i fail to see how anyone can defend this behavior in ANY way
Dude, I don't even think the reason for his public masturbation was revealed.

More to the point, the moment one chooses to do something stupid after willing ingesting drugs/alcohol that is on them.
it wasnt but i can imagine it had something to do with this, its not like people go crazy for no apparent reason and having pretty much the whole internet hating on you is probably enough to drive you crazy
You've never taken drugs, have you?

Suffice to say, there is good reason why I choose to take the majority of my chemical vacations locked up in my room. Why? Cause I'm responsible.
imahobbit4062 said:
the random said:
Ultratwinkie said:
the random said:
Ultratwinkie said:
the random said:
okay the reason why is that the internet had opportunity to do something good, yes maybe it wasn't something great and better things could be done but we had opportunity to do something really good by bringing some one who killed hundreds of people, made hundreds of children into drug slaves and destroyed thousands of lives to justice

but instead everyone jumped on a huge hater band wagon mostly for small, petty, illegitimate reasons or even down right lies, its true that there are some legitimate reasons to disagree with invisible children but only 1% of hater's ive seen use them and these people couldn't disagree quietly no they went about trying to destroy all of invisible children's support with the same energy and determination were if the same energy and determination were used to support kony 2012 this guy would probably have been bought to justice by now but instead they destroyed the life work of a guy who was trying to do something good and could have, and destroyed it to such a degree he got high on drugs and ran round the street naked and now people are dancing on his corpse, i hope your happy haters you win congratulations i hope your really proud of yourself and the worst part is that all this grew from an opportunity to do something good.

dont bother commenting trying to excuse your behavior or explain to me why destroying this guys life was the correct thing to do because it wasnt and under no circumstance would destroying this guys life be acceptable when all he was trying to do was bring an evil person to justice and you destroyed him for it

you should be fucking ashamed of yourself
As I said, there is nothing to do. By the time Kony 2012 rolled around, it was already over.

Trying make people "aware" of Kony is like trying to make people "aware" of Hitler the day before Berlin fell. Its over. The international community (nor Uganda) ever needed the help of a facebook army, nor the help of IC in the first place.

Trying to make some grand speech on a high horse won't change that. It was too little, too late. Not only that, but Uganda government states it might even hurt Uganda in the long run, since now everyone thinks Uganda is awful everyone avoids it like the plague. Not to mention a lot of Africans are furious over Kony 2012, especially Ugandans, because they view it as an insult.

Just because it has good intentions, does not automatically make it a good idea.
this thread wasnt really about whether or not you agree with invisible children its the fact that hating on invisible children was wrong because by doing it you helped some one get away with war crimes

oh and it doesnt matter when you commit a crime, you committed a crime, ive heard of cases were people who committed a murder 20 years ago, never committed a crime since and got found guilty and punished, saying kony shouldnt be punished for their crimes because they were "in the past" is wrong

and even if you disagree with invisible children you shouldnt hate on it because all your doing by hating (like you are now) is destroying an organisation that is trying to bring an evil man to justice and the best thing for you to do would be to just be quiet about it, there is no reason to make an effort to destroy the organisation invisible children (which hating on them does do because they rely on popular support)
again, you assume Kony 2012 does ANYTHING.

Its a facebook movement. Kony 2012 nor Invisible Children are the ICC, UN, nor the US government. Its the those people (or people like them) who change the world. Liking a status will never change the world. Kony 2012 is an awareness program, independent of any official attempts to catch him.

The world governments are not dependent on fucking facebook.

If you truly believe skepticism is hate, I bet you also believe Atheism is a hate-based religion (which it isn't).

Unless Invisible Children suddenly becomes the international courts or suddenly becomes the US government, they wont change anything. All they do is raise awareness, which is USELESS. Want to help? Send actual money to actual charities, not propaganda videos on facebook.

THE US GOVERNMENT AND THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AT LARGE HAS BEEN HUNTING HIM DOWN FOR 20 YEARS, KONY 2012 HAS NO EFFECT ON WHAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS DOING.

The sooner you learn this, the sooner you realize what is actually being argued. I have told you this a second fucking time.
no what youre doing is nothing in fact what youre doing is WORSE than nothing, there is no reason to hate in invisible children or anyone else trying to do some good in the world
Read what he said, read it again. Then a few more times until you actually understand what he is saying.

It's some viral Facebook shit that has instilled the thought into millions of clueless peoples heads that liking and sharing a video is actually putting an end to his crimes, not only is it doing completely fuck all to actually stop him. It's fucking several years late./quote]

i will repeat for those who didnt read it the first time i dont care about your reasons for hating on invisible children because hating on it was unnecessary and did nothing positive at all, nothing all you did was destroy a mans life work and actively campaign against a charity that is doing something that you have to admit is good (you cant say that bringing some one to justice who turned 10 year old girls into drug whores is not a good thing) and it ended in some guy going crazy

this is my final word if you cant see that what you did was even slightly wrong im not gong to change your mind and im not going to waste my time trying to reason with you
Then why bother making a post to discuss it? In fact I think this counts as trolling since you purposely posted with the intention having little discussion value. #Reported

and also.

 

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Have you actually researched invisible children? They give money to militias who rape and loot, are 6 years late, only give away a portion of the money they get. Plus, it actually engrages ugandans. It would be the same if someone in Europe started making "Osama 2002" right after twin towers, distributing bracelets with his name on it. America would lose their shit.

I hate Kony, i'm not like those people who call everyone moralfags when they post about him, but invisible children are practically the worst charity to give to for this.
 

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SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
okay the reason why is that the internet had opportunity to do something good, yes maybe it wasn't something great and better things could be done but we had opportunity to do something really good by bringing some one who killed hundreds of people, made hundreds of children into drug slaves and destroyed thousands of lives to justice

but instead everyone jumped on a huge hater band wagon mostly for small, petty, illegitimate reasons or even down right lies, its true that there are some legitimate reasons to disagree with invisible children but only 1% of hater's ive seen use them and these people couldn't disagree quietly no they went about trying to destroy all of invisible children's support with the same energy and determination were if the same energy and determination were used to support kony 2012 this guy would probably have been bought to justice by now but instead they destroyed the life work of a guy who was trying to do something good and could have succeeded, and destroyed it to such a degree he got high on drugs and ran round the street naked and now people are dancing on his corpse, i hope your happy haters you win congratulations i hope your really proud of yourself and the worst part is that all this grew from an opportunity to do something good.

dont bother commenting trying to excuse your behavior or explain to me why destroying this guys life was the correct thing to do because it wasnt and under no circumstance would destroying this guys life be acceptable when all he was trying to do was bring an evil person to justice and you destroyed him for it

if you hated in invisible children you should be fucking ashamed of yourself
Yes, clearly we haters are the ones responsible for this mans decesion to do drugs and then run around naked in the streets. We forced him... nay! WE BULLIED HIM INTO HIS NEGATIVE CHOICE!

KONY ISN'T THE REAL MONSTER, WE ARE!

...

>.> #AreYouSeriousBro?

hey man, some people don't appreciate a social issue being forced on them, no matter what that issue is.
dude if your life work was destroyed by internet trolls i bet you would go downhill fast, i think i would probably go nuts over it hell it upsets me just watching it happen to some one else

people hating on invisible children probably wasnt the only reason why he went crazy but it was definitely a BIG factor and the bottom line was that there was no reason for this to happen but people wanted to see a charity devoted to bringing an evil man to justice fail.

i fail to see how anyone can defend this behavior in ANY way
Dude, I don't even think the reason for his public masturbation was revealed.

More to the point, the moment one chooses to do something stupid after willing ingesting drugs/alcohol that is on them.
it wasnt but i can imagine it had something to do with this, its not like people go crazy for no apparent reason and having pretty much the whole internet hating on you is probably enough to drive you crazy
You've never taken drugs, have you?

Suffice to say, there is good reason why I choose to take the majority of my chemical vacations locked up in my room. Why? Cause I'm responsible.
imahobbit4062 said:
the random said:
Ultratwinkie said:
the random said:
Ultratwinkie said:
the random said:
okay the reason why is that the internet had opportunity to do something good, yes maybe it wasn't something great and better things could be done but we had opportunity to do something really good by bringing some one who killed hundreds of people, made hundreds of children into drug slaves and destroyed thousands of lives to justice

but instead everyone jumped on a huge hater band wagon mostly for small, petty, illegitimate reasons or even down right lies, its true that there are some legitimate reasons to disagree with invisible children but only 1% of hater's ive seen use them and these people couldn't disagree quietly no they went about trying to destroy all of invisible children's support with the same energy and determination were if the same energy and determination were used to support kony 2012 this guy would probably have been bought to justice by now but instead they destroyed the life work of a guy who was trying to do something good and could have, and destroyed it to such a degree he got high on drugs and ran round the street naked and now people are dancing on his corpse, i hope your happy haters you win congratulations i hope your really proud of yourself and the worst part is that all this grew from an opportunity to do something good.

dont bother commenting trying to excuse your behavior or explain to me why destroying this guys life was the correct thing to do because it wasnt and under no circumstance would destroying this guys life be acceptable when all he was trying to do was bring an evil person to justice and you destroyed him for it

you should be fucking ashamed of yourself
As I said, there is nothing to do. By the time Kony 2012 rolled around, it was already over.

Trying make people "aware" of Kony is like trying to make people "aware" of Hitler the day before Berlin fell. Its over. The international community (nor Uganda) ever needed the help of a facebook army, nor the help of IC in the first place.

Trying to make some grand speech on a high horse won't change that. It was too little, too late. Not only that, but Uganda government states it might even hurt Uganda in the long run, since now everyone thinks Uganda is awful everyone avoids it like the plague. Not to mention a lot of Africans are furious over Kony 2012, especially Ugandans, because they view it as an insult.

Just because it has good intentions, does not automatically make it a good idea.
this thread wasnt really about whether or not you agree with invisible children its the fact that hating on invisible children was wrong because by doing it you helped some one get away with war crimes

oh and it doesnt matter when you commit a crime, you committed a crime, ive heard of cases were people who committed a murder 20 years ago, never committed a crime since and got found guilty and punished, saying kony shouldnt be punished for their crimes because they were "in the past" is wrong

and even if you disagree with invisible children you shouldnt hate on it because all your doing by hating (like you are now) is destroying an organisation that is trying to bring an evil man to justice and the best thing for you to do would be to just be quiet about it, there is no reason to make an effort to destroy the organisation invisible children (which hating on them does do because they rely on popular support)
again, you assume Kony 2012 does ANYTHING.

Its a facebook movement. Kony 2012 nor Invisible Children are the ICC, UN, nor the US government. Its the those people (or people like them) who change the world. Liking a status will never change the world. Kony 2012 is an awareness program, independent of any official attempts to catch him.

The world governments are not dependent on fucking facebook.

If you truly believe skepticism is hate, I bet you also believe Atheism is a hate-based religion (which it isn't).

Unless Invisible Children suddenly becomes the international courts or suddenly becomes the US government, they wont change anything. All they do is raise awareness, which is USELESS. Want to help? Send actual money to actual charities, not propaganda videos on facebook.

THE US GOVERNMENT AND THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AT LARGE HAS BEEN HUNTING HIM DOWN FOR 20 YEARS, KONY 2012 HAS NO EFFECT ON WHAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS DOING.

The sooner you learn this, the sooner you realize what is actually being argued. I have told you this a second fucking time.
no what youre doing is nothing in fact what youre doing is WORSE than nothing, there is no reason to hate in invisible children or anyone else trying to do some good in the world
Read what he said, read it again. Then a few more times until you actually understand what he is saying.

It's some viral Facebook shit that has instilled the thought into millions of clueless peoples heads that liking and sharing a video is actually putting an end to his crimes, not only is it doing completely fuck all to actually stop him. It's fucking several years late./quote]

i will repeat for those who didnt read it the first time i dont care about your reasons for hating on invisible children because hating on it was unnecessary and did nothing positive at all, nothing all you did was destroy a mans life work and actively campaign against a charity that is doing something that you have to admit is good (you cant say that bringing some one to justice who turned 10 year old girls into drug whores is not a good thing) and it ended in some guy going crazy

this is my final word if you cant see that what you did was even slightly wrong im not gong to change your mind and im not going to waste my time trying to reason with you
Then why bother making a post to discuss it? In fact I think this counts as trolling since you purposely posted with the intention having little discussion value. #Reported

and also.

i uploaded somthing thinking i could change some peoples minds on the fact that actively campaigning against the charity invisible children is wrong but know i see that its a lost cause and dint see why i even bothered

haters gonna hate potatoes gotta potate :(
 

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GeneralTwinkle said:
Have you actually researched invisible children? They give money to militias who rape and loot, are 6 years late, only give away a portion of the money they get. Plus, it actually engrages ugandans. It would be the same if someone in Europe started making "Osama 2002" right after twin towers, distributing bracelets with his name on it. America would lose their shit.

I hate Kony, i'm not like those people who call everyone moralfags when they post about him, but invisible children are practically the worst charity to give to for this.
i dont support invisible children and can see why people dont support them but i think its wrong to try and destroy it like some people are doing but you cant make a post that is in any way pro invisible children you get flamed to death
 

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the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
SaneAmongInsane said:
the random said:
okay the reason why is that the internet had opportunity to do something good, yes maybe it wasn't something great and better things could be done but we had opportunity to do something really good by bringing some one who killed hundreds of people, made hundreds of children into drug slaves and destroyed thousands of lives to justice

but instead everyone jumped on a huge hater band wagon mostly for small, petty, illegitimate reasons or even down right lies, its true that there are some legitimate reasons to disagree with invisible children but only 1% of hater's ive seen use them and these people couldn't disagree quietly no they went about trying to destroy all of invisible children's support with the same energy and determination were if the same energy and determination were used to support kony 2012 this guy would probably have been bought to justice by now but instead they destroyed the life work of a guy who was trying to do something good and could have succeeded, and destroyed it to such a degree he got high on drugs and ran round the street naked and now people are dancing on his corpse, i hope your happy haters you win congratulations i hope your really proud of yourself and the worst part is that all this grew from an opportunity to do something good.

dont bother commenting trying to excuse your behavior or explain to me why destroying this guys life was the correct thing to do because it wasnt and under no circumstance would destroying this guys life be acceptable when all he was trying to do was bring an evil person to justice and you destroyed him for it

if you hated in invisible children you should be fucking ashamed of yourself
Yes, clearly we haters are the ones responsible for this mans decesion to do drugs and then run around naked in the streets. We forced him... nay! WE BULLIED HIM INTO HIS NEGATIVE CHOICE!

KONY ISN'T THE REAL MONSTER, WE ARE!

...

>.> #AreYouSeriousBro?

hey man, some people don't appreciate a social issue being forced on them, no matter what that issue is.
dude if your life work was destroyed by internet trolls i bet you would go downhill fast, i think i would probably go nuts over it hell it upsets me just watching it happen to some one else

people hating on invisible children probably wasnt the only reason why he went crazy but it was definitely a BIG factor and the bottom line was that there was no reason for this to happen but people wanted to see a charity devoted to bringing an evil man to justice fail.

i fail to see how anyone can defend this behavior in ANY way
Dude, I don't even think the reason for his public masturbation was revealed.

More to the point, the moment one chooses to do something stupid after willing ingesting drugs/alcohol that is on them.
it wasnt but i can imagine it had something to do with this, its not like people go crazy for no apparent reason and having pretty much the whole internet hating on you is probably enough to drive you crazy
You've never taken drugs, have you?

Suffice to say, there is good reason why I choose to take the majority of my chemical vacations locked up in my room. Why? Cause I'm responsible.
imahobbit4062 said:
the random said:
Ultratwinkie said:
the random said:
Ultratwinkie said:
the random said:
okay the reason why is that the internet had opportunity to do something good, yes maybe it wasn't something great and better things could be done but we had opportunity to do something really good by bringing some one who killed hundreds of people, made hundreds of children into drug slaves and destroyed thousands of lives to justice

but instead everyone jumped on a huge hater band wagon mostly for small, petty, illegitimate reasons or even down right lies, its true that there are some legitimate reasons to disagree with invisible children but only 1% of hater's ive seen use them and these people couldn't disagree quietly no they went about trying to destroy all of invisible children's support with the same energy and determination were if the same energy and determination were used to support kony 2012 this guy would probably have been bought to justice by now but instead they destroyed the life work of a guy who was trying to do something good and could have, and destroyed it to such a degree he got high on drugs and ran round the street naked and now people are dancing on his corpse, i hope your happy haters you win congratulations i hope your really proud of yourself and the worst part is that all this grew from an opportunity to do something good.

dont bother commenting trying to excuse your behavior or explain to me why destroying this guys life was the correct thing to do because it wasnt and under no circumstance would destroying this guys life be acceptable when all he was trying to do was bring an evil person to justice and you destroyed him for it

you should be fucking ashamed of yourself
As I said, there is nothing to do. By the time Kony 2012 rolled around, it was already over.

Trying make people "aware" of Kony is like trying to make people "aware" of Hitler the day before Berlin fell. Its over. The international community (nor Uganda) ever needed the help of a facebook army, nor the help of IC in the first place.

Trying to make some grand speech on a high horse won't change that. It was too little, too late. Not only that, but Uganda government states it might even hurt Uganda in the long run, since now everyone thinks Uganda is awful everyone avoids it like the plague. Not to mention a lot of Africans are furious over Kony 2012, especially Ugandans, because they view it as an insult.

Just because it has good intentions, does not automatically make it a good idea.
this thread wasnt really about whether or not you agree with invisible children its the fact that hating on invisible children was wrong because by doing it you helped some one get away with war crimes

oh and it doesnt matter when you commit a crime, you committed a crime, ive heard of cases were people who committed a murder 20 years ago, never committed a crime since and got found guilty and punished, saying kony shouldnt be punished for their crimes because they were "in the past" is wrong

and even if you disagree with invisible children you shouldnt hate on it because all your doing by hating (like you are now) is destroying an organisation that is trying to bring an evil man to justice and the best thing for you to do would be to just be quiet about it, there is no reason to make an effort to destroy the organisation invisible children (which hating on them does do because they rely on popular support)
again, you assume Kony 2012 does ANYTHING.

Its a facebook movement. Kony 2012 nor Invisible Children are the ICC, UN, nor the US government. Its the those people (or people like them) who change the world. Liking a status will never change the world. Kony 2012 is an awareness program, independent of any official attempts to catch him.

The world governments are not dependent on fucking facebook.

If you truly believe skepticism is hate, I bet you also believe Atheism is a hate-based religion (which it isn't).

Unless Invisible Children suddenly becomes the international courts or suddenly becomes the US government, they wont change anything. All they do is raise awareness, which is USELESS. Want to help? Send actual money to actual charities, not propaganda videos on facebook.

THE US GOVERNMENT AND THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY AT LARGE HAS BEEN HUNTING HIM DOWN FOR 20 YEARS, KONY 2012 HAS NO EFFECT ON WHAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS DOING.

The sooner you learn this, the sooner you realize what is actually being argued. I have told you this a second fucking time.
no what youre doing is nothing in fact what youre doing is WORSE than nothing, there is no reason to hate in invisible children or anyone else trying to do some good in the world
Read what he said, read it again. Then a few more times until you actually understand what he is saying.

It's some viral Facebook shit that has instilled the thought into millions of clueless peoples heads that liking and sharing a video is actually putting an end to his crimes, not only is it doing completely fuck all to actually stop him. It's fucking several years late./quote]

i will repeat for those who didnt read it the first time i dont care about your reasons for hating on invisible children because hating on it was unnecessary and did nothing positive at all, nothing all you did was destroy a mans life work and actively campaign against a charity that is doing something that you have to admit is good (you cant say that bringing some one to justice who turned 10 year old girls into drug whores is not a good thing) and it ended in some guy going crazy

this is my final word if you cant see that what you did was even slightly wrong im not gong to change your mind and im not going to waste my time trying to reason with you
Then why bother making a post to discuss it? In fact I think this counts as trolling since you purposely posted with the intention having little discussion value. #Reported

and also.

i uploaded somthing thinking i could change some peoples minds on the fact that actively campaigning against the charity invisible children is wrong but know i see that its a lost cause and dint see why i even bothered

haters gonna hate potatoes gotta potate :(
Look some people resent being told they should feel one way about a position or another... I.E. like me

Some people just resent that only about 30% of the money actually goes to Kony... Or that the fact that no one fucking knows weather he's even alive or not.

You're whole big thing is this giant assumption that the backlash against Kony2012 led this man to go running naked through the streets... as if that some how liberates him from his freewill, that we all "bullied" him into it... which is complete and utter bullshit. That's on him.
 

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DarkRyter said:
the random said:
... is wrong ... the right thing to do
You did it again.

You assumed absolute morality exists..
absolute morality maybe not but most of the world can agree that some one who made 10 year old girls into crack whores should be taken into custody and punished for their crimes
 

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the random said:
GeneralTwinkle said:
Have you actually researched invisible children? They give money to militias who rape and loot, are 6 years late, only give away a portion of the money they get. Plus, it actually engrages ugandans. It would be the same if someone in Europe started making "Osama 2002" right after twin towers, distributing bracelets with his name on it. America would lose their shit.

I hate Kony, i'm not like those people who call everyone moralfags when they post about him, but invisible children are practically the worst charity to give to for this.
i dont support invisible children and can see why people dont support them but i think its wrong to try and destroy it like some people are doing but you cant make a post that is in any way pro invisible children you get flamed to death
As you should be, they do more harm then good.
 

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What a hiliarious thread. As one news reporter in Uganda said (something to the effect) "No one here has taken notice of this at all. This is not news worthy. I think the Western media needs hyperbole and to blow things out of proportion to help spread the news. But there is nothing to this. Many people here are surprised by it"

If the facts about this "charity" are true, then it is doing more harm then good, and according to many, it's just a call to war for the US to invade Uganda. As others have said, this is all over and yes people can hate this charity if it is taking people's money on what it knows to be false claims. If the guy's life got "ruined" by "internet trolls"...ummm how many people does it take to collectively be called "internet trolls"? The oposition to this documentary would still be there without the internet being as large as it is. It is called the public, and they have opposed people's opinions, ideas, movies, etc in the past. This man is not the first.

Also:
LONG LIVE KONY 2012 MAY YOU LIVE PAST THE IMPENDING APOCOLYPSE.
 

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the random said:
DarkRyter said:
the random said:
... is wrong ... the right thing to do
You did it again.

You assumed absolute morality exists..
absolute morality maybe not but most of the world can agree that some one who made 10 year old girls into crack whores should be taken into custody and punished for their crimes
Argumentum ad Populum.

What the world agrees on doesn't matter.
 

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Instinct Blues said:
Yeah we're bad people because we don't want to be involved with people who were photographed with the LRA like they were just hanging out like old buds.
i dindnt say you had to support invisible children only that campaigning against it and destroying it is wrong
Instinct Blues said:
Yeah we're bad people because we don't want to be involved with people who were photographed with the LRA like they were just hanging out like old buds. Also having people putting things like #StopKony or #Kony2012 on their twitter won't catch him. Watching a 30 minute video will not help Kony be captured. Pretending like you care about what happens in Uganda now as opposed to a year ago won't help Uganda. I give the man props for trying to do something good, but I think he went about it in the entirely wrong way. Plus only like 38% of money donated actually goes to help Uganda the rest is basically used to promote Kony. Making him famous, not to celebrate him, but to make him known will do nothing. Everybody who needs to know about him has known about him for a long time and they've done what they can to try and catch him.

There's no doubt the guy has good intentions, but poor execution.
i agree with this post in terms of not supporting invisible children and this post pretty much sums up why I dont support invisible children but i never hated on the charity invisible children and neither do i see the need to campaign against the charity invisible children. why couldnt people who disagreed wit the charity keep it to themselves and maybe something good would have come out of it instead of it crashing and burning in such a bad way

2 more points on this
1. the LRA is a very complex topic and a big grey area not a black/white open and closed discussion
2. some people do care about kony 2012 and are not just "pretending to care" i care about kony allot and i hope that some one more capable than invisible children can bring him to justice
 

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i will repeat for those who didnt read it the first time i dont care about your reasons for hating on invisible children because hating on it was unnecessary and did nothing positive at all, nothing all you did was destroy a mans life work and actively campaign against a charity that is doing something that you have to admit is good (you cant say that bringing some one to justice who turned 10 year old girls into drug whores is not a good thing) and it ended in some guy going crazy

this is my final word if you cant see that what you did was even slightly wrong im not gong to change your mind and im not going to waste my time trying to reason with you
Its not that I hate it, as much as it is I'm focused on whats going on in Tibet right now.
 

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the random said:
DarkRyter said:
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... is wrong ... the right thing to do
You did it again.

You assumed absolute morality exists..
absolute morality maybe not but most of the world can agree that some one who made 10 year old girls into crack whores should be taken into custody and punished for their crimes
Argumentum ad Populum.

What the world agrees on doesn't matter.
not everybody is a nihilist, chill out
 

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DarkRyter said:
the random said:
DarkRyter said:
the random said:
... is wrong ... the right thing to do
You did it again.

You assumed absolute morality exists..
absolute morality maybe not but most of the world can agree that some one who made 10 year old girls into crack whores should be taken into custody and punished for their crimes
Argumentum ad Populum.

What the world agrees on doesn't matter.
im going to continue with this because this is a fun topic to discuss (unlike battling invisible children haters)

i think popular opinion does matter and that its ingrained into our very society and culture, for example if you look at basic laws like not stealing, not murdering, these became laws because the majority of people view them as wrong and a huge amount of resources money, time, effort ect are out into place to try and stop them from happening

the whole world doesn't have to agree on something (and probably never will) but what is right and wrong goes by mob rule and if the opinion "blank" is wrong or "blank" is right depends on some sort of critical mass of people who agree with that statement and when enough voices speak one opinion loudly enough it becomes the norm that "blank" is right or "blank" is wrong and anyone who thinks otherwise and is foolish enough to post their view of it on the escapist will get flamed to death :(
 

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how many people does it take to collectively be called "internet trolls"??
i wonder what the collective noun is for a group of internet trolls? maybe a bridge or a party? some one actually good at naming things (not me) should come up with one

on a more serious note i dont think you have to be in the minority to be a troll, for the same reason you can be in the minority and not a troll, its about how you condiuct yourself online and allot of the people i see hating (and a good many people for invisible children) on invisible are full caps on swear mode engaged poorly reasoned argument internet trolls
 

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Hey guys, why are you hatin' on Stalin? He's pivotal in the fight against Hitler and is also bringing his country into the industrial world. Why you gotta do so much harm by looking at all the fucking horrific shit he does? Criticizing him just strengthens Hitler.
 

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the random said:
Instinct Blues said:
Yeah we're bad people because we don't want to be involved with people who were photographed with the LRA like they were just hanging out like old buds.
i dindnt say you had to support invisible children only that campaigning against it and destroying it is wrong
Instinct Blues said:
Yeah we're bad people because we don't want to be involved with people who were photographed with the LRA like they were just hanging out like old buds. Also having people putting things like #StopKony or #Kony2012 on their twitter won't catch him. Watching a 30 minute video will not help Kony be captured. Pretending like you care about what happens in Uganda now as opposed to a year ago won't help Uganda. I give the man props for trying to do something good, but I think he went about it in the entirely wrong way. Plus only like 38% of money donated actually goes to help Uganda the rest is basically used to promote Kony. Making him famous, not to celebrate him, but to make him known will do nothing. Everybody who needs to know about him has known about him for a long time and they've done what they can to try and catch him.

There's no doubt the guy has good intentions, but poor execution.
i agree with this post in terms of not supporting invisible children and this post pretty much sums up why I dont support invisible children but i never hated on the charity invisible children and neither do i see the need to campaign against the charity invisible children. why couldnt people who disagreed wit the charity keep it to themselves and maybe something good would have come out of it instead of it crashing and burning in such a bad way

2 more points on this
1. the LRA is a very complex topic and a big grey area not a black/white open and closed discussion
2. some people do care about kony 2012 and are not just "pretending to care" i care about kony allot and i hope that some one more capable than invisible children can bring him to justice
I don't see why you are getting mad at people for hating on Invisible Children. They literally do nothing, but point out "Hey this guy is really bad". It's just a way for people who want to pretend that they're "activists" to satisfy their own selfish needs. My problem is less with Invisible Children and more with all of the dumbasses on Facebook and Twitter who think they are actually making a difference. I can almost guarantee that unless Kony is caught within a month or two no one will care. No one will even remember they shared a video on Facebook or put a #StopKony at the end of one of their tweets. And worst of all if he doesn't get caught at all people will just forget about him. I know that Invisible Children is trying to make him visible people will enjoy that for a couple months and then they will get tired of hearing about him. If he doesn't get caught by the end of 2012 than I can guarantee most people will give up because we live in a society of instant gratification. If it doesn't happen right now or very damn soon people cease to give a fuck about it.
 

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Instinct Blues said:
the random said:
Instinct Blues said:
Yeah we're bad people because we don't want to be involved with people who were photographed with the LRA like they were just hanging out like old buds.
i dindnt say you had to support invisible children only that campaigning against it and destroying it is wrong
Instinct Blues said:
Yeah we're bad people because we don't want to be involved with people who were photographed with the LRA like they were just hanging out like old buds. Also having people putting things like #StopKony or #Kony2012 on their twitter won't catch him. Watching a 30 minute video will not help Kony be captured. Pretending like you care about what happens in Uganda now as opposed to a year ago won't help Uganda. I give the man props for trying to do something good, but I think he went about it in the entirely wrong way. Plus only like 38% of money donated actually goes to help Uganda the rest is basically used to promote Kony. Making him famous, not to celebrate him, but to make him known will do nothing. Everybody who needs to know about him has known about him for a long time and they've done what they can to try and catch him.

There's no doubt the guy has good intentions, but poor execution.
i agree with this post in terms of not supporting invisible children and this post pretty much sums up why I dont support invisible children but i never hated on the charity invisible children and neither do i see the need to campaign against the charity invisible children. why couldnt people who disagreed wit the charity keep it to themselves and maybe something good would have come out of it instead of it crashing and burning in such a bad way

2 more points on this
1. the LRA is a very complex topic and a big grey area not a black/white open and closed discussion
2. some people do care about kony 2012 and are not just "pretending to care" i care about kony allot and i hope that some one more capable than invisible children can bring him to justice
I don't see why you are getting mad at people for hating on Invisible Children. They literally do nothing, but point out "Hey this guy is really bad". It's just a way for people who want to pretend that they're "activists" to satisfy their own selfish needs. My problem is less with Invisible Children and more with all of the dumbasses on Facebook and Twitter who think they are actually making a difference. I can almost guarantee that unless Kony is caught within a month or two no one will care. No one will even remember they shared a video on Facebook or put a #StopKony at the end of one of their tweets. And worst of all if he doesn't get caught at all people will just forget about him. I know that Invisible Children is trying to make him visible people will enjoy that for a couple months and then they will get tired of hearing about him. If he doesn't get caught by the end of 2012 than I can guarantee most people will give up because we live in a society of instant gratification. If it doesn't happen right now or very damn soon people cease to give a fuck about it.
the reason why it angers me is because something genuinely good might have come of this if people that supported invisible children did well and people who hated on it could keep quiet about it but instead everyone rejected it and worse took some kind of sick pleasure in destroying this charity all the time acting like they were in the right and the charity it self was some sort of evil monster that had to be destroyed and know that it has failed (he lost virtually all his support even before he went crazy) all the haters do is dance on its corpse, shout out called it and act like they've had a major victory and made the world a better place when really the best thing to do would have been to interdependently put pressure on government officials to do something not just about kony but about the whole mess that is uganda

and i ultimately have allot more respect for some one who tried to do something good (despite its failings) than people who jut sit back on the side line not doing anything but hating on the people trying (often struggling) to make a positive difference in the world and its even worse when the haters actually feel like they achieved something positive or are proud of their "accomplishment" of hating on some one over the internet (something anyone can do)