D is right,D_987 said:
this review isn't much of a review of basically anything.
All you are doing is spouting random nonsense about both games in an effort to be comical.
I give this review: 1 penguin out of 5.
Why Heavy Rain is a good game and Final Fantasy 13 isn't - a compare (Mild spoilers)
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this review isn't much of a review of basically anything.
All you are doing is spouting random nonsense about both games in an effort to be comical.
I give this review: 1 penguin out of 5.
Actually, yes, do so for at least 3 reasons:dathwampeer said:
1) Some of the series have been among the best games ever;
2) The money put into them, the hype, the production values, should add up to something;
3) The review are typically very positive.
So when you pick it up and it greatly disappoints, it is like finding out there's no Santa Claus.
1) FF 10 ties Halo IMHO for game of gen 6. FF-X2, wins game most likely to make you blush with embarassment that you are playing it and FF 12: not the worst game of gen 6, but easily, far and away the most disappointing. I can't even think of a close 2nd. But, You skip over 6-10, thought of by most gamers as nothing less than amazing. A bold opinion.dathwampeer said:
2 and 3) I like Michael Bay just fine, but, James Cameron would not have achieved what he did without a big, record breaking budgets for T2, Titanic and Avatar. Money matters. That doesn't mean you can't make a buried treasure like My Big Fat Greek Wedding without a lot of money. But you need it if your going to make these spectaculars.
WOW, WOW, WOW. How in hell can you say that? Most of the best Final Fantasies are VI onwards.dathwampeer said:
1) What are your favorite RPGS, Western or Japanese, that have come out since then?dathwampeer said:
2) Yes he is, but he's a glorious, over the top hack. I love "The Rock", even if the best scene in it is a plot hole. He really knows how to put some fun crap up on the screen. There are great directors like Altman who wouldn't know what to do with a giant budget if you gave them one.
3) Fun movie. I just watched on my 360 streamed from Netflix, "The Truth About Average Guys" which cost $5K to make. You can see that it is very, very low budget, but it is funnier than many big budget movies, so, of course, money doesn't equal quality.
4) Correct: but it does create expectations. In FF13's case, you can see that money on the screen. It is gorgeous, and to me, that adds to the overall experience. Great graphics are why I spent $150 alone on a video card for my PC. (The same shop had one for $600... these things matter to people). When quality people with big budgets produce something that is ultimately a let down, it hurts worse than when a hack with no budget screws up.
1 - This is very true. Final Fantasy has also lacked a 'REAL' villain since VI as well. What's all this about Sephiroth? I don't get it, a sad momma's boy TRIES to destroy the world and ultimately fails because of a clone. 'TRIES' being the main point, Kefka didn't TRY, he fucking did it.dathwampeer said:
3 - Not to insult your friends, but if they haven't heard of Portal... They must live sheltered, internetless lives. Even my Parents know what Portal is and they've never seen or played it.
He's comparing the fun value of the game, mostly. But yeah, him comparing the art style was kinda silly but the rest of it was him saying that he liked Heavy Rain more because of x, y and z. Nothing wrong with that.D_987 said:
Without disagreeing, and wishing no offense, I am very curious how a proper comparison would work. No seriously, no sarcasm or ill intent, just want to know.D_987 said:
OT: Haven't played Heavy Rain, so it's impossible for me to compare. I'll also not defend FF against valid complaints. The one thing I will say is that there was something about Lightning (FF Heroine), the ways she was characterized, that I found really appealing. Not only was there the usual, admittedly stereotypical angst v heart of gold thing, but there were lots of moments of identity crisis (not literal, amnesiac sort of identity crisis but the self-doubt v. self-discovery sort) and plot important internal-emotional conflicts and shifts.
Oh, and using different names for the FF characters didn't help you at all, considering you obviously did remember the names and it took me a while to figure out who you were talking about with Kurt Kobain because, silly me, I was thinking more of character traits than looks. Apparently I'm a rhetahd.
I know it's opinions and all that, but a few of the things that you said about Final Fantasy, I actually liked.
The crystarium and linear gameplay were simple. No crazy, confusing junctioning, and no running around getting lost and having to do yet another fight every 3 steps when you make a wrong turn every 4.
And, excuse my fanboyism, but I liked the characters. There's the whole developing thing going on with Hope, Vanille's "dark secrets" thing and Lightning eventually showing she does have more emotions than a fairly aggressive plank of wood all struck a chord with me.
As for Heavy Rain, I've never played it. From what I've heard, it sounds just like a movie that you have to interact with.
I'd rather just watch a movie.
On a side note...
Because I certainly don't remember that part of the game.
Unless you're being metaphorical, in which case... actually, I still wouldn't know what you're on about.
The crystarium and linear gameplay were simple. No crazy, confusing junctioning, and no running around getting lost and having to do yet another fight every 3 steps when you make a wrong turn every 4.
And, excuse my fanboyism, but I liked the characters. There's the whole developing thing going on with Hope, Vanille's "dark secrets" thing and Lightning eventually showing she does have more emotions than a fairly aggressive plank of wood all struck a chord with me.
As for Heavy Rain, I've never played it. From what I've heard, it sounds just like a movie that you have to interact with.
I'd rather just watch a movie.
On a side note...
Whoa, am I missing something here?GamesGibbon said:
Because I certainly don't remember that part of the game.
Unless you're being metaphorical, in which case... actually, I still wouldn't know what you're on about.
Heavy Rain is less of a 'playable movie' than Final Fantasy or Metal Gear Solid have ever been. All games are basically interactive movies to a point anyway.FreelanceButler said:
And when you go to the planet with the Chocobo farm - You get ambushed by ba guys and all the chocobos get killed.
The comparisons made me laugh at points, but I can shorten the whole thing:
Final Fantasy XIII has Vanille in it, arguably the most annoying character ever created.
I was sitting there rooting for her death or maiming in cutscenes, and if thats how you're looking at the characters your supposed to care about, they did something horribly wrong.
Haven't played Heavy Rain, but I'm sure it has nothing that bad.
Final Fantasy XIII has Vanille in it, arguably the most annoying character ever created.
I was sitting there rooting for her death or maiming in cutscenes, and if thats how you're looking at the characters your supposed to care about, they did something horribly wrong.
Haven't played Heavy Rain, but I'm sure it has nothing that bad.