Why I am not going to buy Mass Effect 3

[Skoldpadda]

In b4 "lol u guyz buznizezz make money!"

Protheans were a big deal from ME1 and onward. If one is gonna show up, he belongs in the series' closing act.

This is sleazy.

Games are art? Businesses like EA sure don't seem to give a shit about the artistic side of things.

I had already decided not to buy ME3. It wasn't an easy decision. This confirms that it was the correct one (for me).

 

[Jaric93]

However, if I could offer a request, please take the time to send a formal e-mail to BioWare, explaining your actions and your concerns...

...As consumers, we can stop this, but we need to tell them. Silent objections will gain us nothing, so let's make like TotalBiscuit and object, and tell as many people as we can.

Already done and I appreciate your support.

Usually I (as my profile says) just observe I've been coming to this site since 2007 I only made a profile last year and don't often make posts unless the mood takes me, but this kind of thing just infuriates me and I can't stand it. I also realise that I can't change the world by myself It isn't right that were paying for a game that in all essence isn't finished, and this isn't even because they ran out of time/money like with kotor 2 where the game is rushed this is flat out theft. I wanted to pay for a game that had all of the content available on day 1 only to find out that basicly probably the most important side character was going to cost even more. At this point it not even about the money I was already undecided about whether or not to cancel it and buy the Delux edition its the entire ethic I want company's to sell me a game not half a jigsaw!!!

 

[burningdragoon]

pre-comment comment:
I think there is/should be some forum etiquette that if you post a 25min video and want to discuss the points of the video, you should at least allude to what the video is about. Granted the video gets into it quickly, but still.

comment comment:
I can see how this would bother people. Protheans in general are a big deal, so the chances of this character having some important part of the overall experience is at least higher than if it was a 'normal' character. That's fine. I get that. It doesn't mean it will, but it some decent chances.

However, I take issue with the fact the guy in the video assumes that since it will exist at launch that it means it was 'cut' from the rest of the game. Could it be? Yeah it could be, but it could also be an entirely separate piece from the get go. If a publisher gives the devs X amount of money to work on the main game and Y amount of money to work on DLC projects for the game at the same time, we are not entitled(for lack of better word) to get everything developed under the X+Y budget. The fact is we do not know how or when money was allocated for the development.

I'm not saying I like the idea of Day 1 DLC. The fact that the DLC character is a Prothean either means it is a deal of noteworthy size or a very poor implementation of what should be a big deal. At best it's a bit of cheap move and at worst it is a ripoff, but it really hurts the argument (to me) to say that just by existing on launch day, it means we should get it.

Here's the problem. If you're a Mass Effect fan, like me, a Prothean is a huge deal. Granted, if you're someone new to the series, or if you're not really a fan, you'll probably just shrug and not worry about it. However, this DLC is going to be considered a must have by ME fans, and BioWare and EA knows this. It's nothing short of an attempt to exploit loyal customers. Such practices are, in my opinion, shameful and immoral, and that's the reason why I object. It's not the content I object to, its the intent behind it.

Right, I know. Everything other than "it was available at launch, so we should get it" I completely with.

I don't like the idea of creating DLC at the same time as the rest of the game, but I don't think it's inherently "wrong" and claiming that we deserve it just because it was developed together isn't a strong point. The story-based arguments for why it's a sucky move are rock solid (assuming the actual content isn't ass).

 

[psicat]

And, I am going to buy Mass Effect 3.

 

[Erttheking]

So basically they're selling the collector's edition at launch...I'm less angry and more confused. Aw the Hell with it, I was going to buy the Collector's edition anyway, no skin off of my back. He'll probably be like Legion, he'll just walk around and nobody will look twice at him, maybe a couple of extra lines of dialogue and that'll be it. The only unique dialogue will probably be squad banter and Shepard talking to him directly, so yeah, not losing sleep over this.

 

[Loop Stricken]

And, I am going to buy Mass Effect 3.

I have enjoyed your logical, reasoned and well-debated reasoning and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

 

[Clonekiller]

However, if I could offer a request, please take the time to send a formal e-mail to BioWare, explaining your actions and your concerns...

...As consumers, we can stop this, but we need to tell them. Silent objections will gain us nothing, so let's make like TotalBiscuit and object, and tell as many people as we can.

Already done and I appreciate your support.

Usually I (as my profile says) just observe I've been coming to this site since 2007 I only made a profile last year and don't often make posts unless the mood takes me, but this kind of thing just infuriates me and I can't stand it. I also realise that I can't change the world by myself It isn't right that were paying for a game that in all essence isn't finished, and this isn't even because they ran out of time/money like with kotor 2 where the game is rushed this is flat out theft. I wanted to pay for a game that had all of the content available on day 1 only to find out that basicly probably the most important side character was going to cost even more. At this point it not even about the money I was already undecided about whether or not to cancel it and buy the Delux edition its the entire ethic I want company's to sell me a game not half a jigsaw!!!

Take heart. EA has proven in the past that, if a policy stands to lose them money, they will change it. TB pointed this out with the controversy over Battlefield 3. If other gamers, like you, act on their beliefs, we will make a difference. One person might not be able to sway the opinion of a giant like EA and BioWare, but 1,000, 5,000, or 10,000 "one" persons can.

 

[Erttheking]

And, I am going to buy Mass Effect 3.

I have enjoyed your logical, reasoned and well-debated reasoning and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I'm sorry were you expecting him to write a thesis paper over why he wanted to buy a bloody video game?

 

[boag]

The industry is and always was, about making money...lets me say it again...the industry is and always was, about making money.

No shit. I don't mind that, but this move is effectively holding content to ransom.

Why are we assuming the Protean is going to be a huge importance to the game?

Because he's a Prothean, plain and simple. Without the Protheans we'd effectively have no Mass Effect games.

I would like to address your points.

1.- we wont know if they are holding content for ransom until the game is releases, Zaeed was not a plot centric character even though he was integral to the Blue Suns, who are major antagonists in ME2


2.- That is a poor logical conclusion to reach, just because Shepard is human it doesnt make every other human as important.

 

[Lost In The Void]

And, I am going to buy Mass Effect 3.

I have enjoyed your logical, reasoned and well-debated reasoning and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I'm sorry were you expecting him to write a thesis paper over why he wanted to buy a bloody video game?

No but in the context of the thread's topic, one would expect something more than, "I plan on buying this video game because-blank. Its less demanding a thesis and why he chooses to buy the game in the context of this topic's discussion.

On topic, I ordered the collector's edition from the start so it isn't a huge deal for me personally. I don't like the precedent though, I don't mind if they do it for new copies, but something like that for the collector's edition does kinda reek of bullshit.

 

[Erttheking]

And, I am going to buy Mass Effect 3.

I have enjoyed your logical, reasoned and well-debated reasoning and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I'm sorry were you expecting him to write a thesis paper over why he wanted to buy a bloody video game?

No but in the context of the thread's topic, one would expect something more than, "I plan on buying this video game because-blank. Its less demanding a thesis and why he chooses to buy the game in the context of this topic's discussion.

On topic, I ordered the collector's edition from the start so it isn't a huge deal for me personally. I don't like the precedent though, I don't mind if they do it for new copies, but something like that for the collector's edition does kinda reek of bullshit.

I would think that it was made clear that it didn't bug him and frankly does he really need to say anything else? Saying that he is still going to buy the game, flat out says "this doesn't bug me enough to make me not buy it" otherwise he wouldn't buy it.

P.S. same here, except I really don't care that much.

 

[Loop Stricken]

And, I am going to buy Mass Effect 3.

I have enjoyed your logical, reasoned and well-debated reasoning and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I'm sorry were you expecting him to write a thesis paper over why he wanted to buy a bloody video game?

In a thread dedicated to the reasoning behind the rationale behind one's purchase? Yes.

 

[Loop Stricken]

The industry is and always was, about making money...lets me say it again...the industry is and always was, about making money.

No shit. I don't mind that, but this move is effectively holding content to ransom.

Why are we assuming the Protean is going to be a huge importance to the game?

Because he's a Prothean, plain and simple. Without the Protheans we'd effectively have no Mass Effect games.

I would like to address your points.

1.- we wont know if they are holding content for ransom until the game is releases, Zaeed was not a plot centric character even though he was integral to the Blue Suns, who are major antagonists in ME2


2.- That is a poor logical conclusion to reach, just because Shepard is human it doesnt make every other human as important.

1) Zaeed was free with any new copy of the game.

2) If Shepard was the last human alive in the galaxy s/he'd be important by default. If Shepard was the last member alive of a species that basically enabled the events of this entire game series? Moreso.

 

[hazabaza1]

I've not just played through the first Mass Effect and have started the second just to not get the third.
I just won't get the DLC unless I feel like my game is missing something.

 

[Erttheking]

And, I am going to buy Mass Effect 3.

I have enjoyed your logical, reasoned and well-debated reasoning and wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

I'm sorry were you expecting him to write a thesis paper over why he wanted to buy a bloody video game?

In a thread dedicated to the reasoning behind the rationale behind one's purchase? Yes.

So you were expecting him to write a college paper over why he wanted to buy a game...am I the only one who thinks that this website is way too freaking dramatic?

 

[Black Arrow Officer]

I already bought the collectors edition, but I can see how this must be frustrating to people who didn't buy the CE. I mean, they are basically holding content hostage. And a PROTHEAN?!? That sounds like a pretty big fucking deal.

 

[hobohazard]

um guys, were going about this all wrong. why are we boycotting the game? we should instead boycott the DLC! i don't care if its a fucking prothean who knows everything important about everything in the lore, i don't care if the DLC is better than the game itself (haahhahahah no), and i don't care whether or not they make it free afterwards, we need to show EA that this is unacceptable (and for anyone who is trying to pin the blame on bioware, they probably wanted to oppose it with all there might, but we all know what happens to studios that get in the way of EA's paws). if we do that, and don't boycott the game but attack the problems source, then we might be able to stop this before it becomes a regular thing. why make bioware collateral damage when we can show EA what we really think.

 

[Evil Teddie]

Gamers? Boycott? Too bad some are going to pirate it and call that boycotting. There's an enraged TotalBiscuit venting on youtube, but still gamers in general have always been disorganised as a group...

 

[spartandude]

can we just rename bioware Liberal Democrats?

i mean seriously this kind of thing is making disgusted as a consumer and a Mass Effect fan. i know il probably be banned or suspended for saying this, but IF i was going for the pc version i would actually pirate it, but as im going for the xbox (to import my saves) i cant. Bioware has really phoned it in imo, so not only am i not getting a game which really is not up to their standard (based on what ive played, seen, heard and general trend in their games) and now they are cutting out a very important piece of content... im now serious one more bit of bad news about this game (one tinsy bit) and im not buying

 

[ChildishLegacy]

am I the only one who thinks that this website is way too freaking dramatic?

No I'm with you there.

OT: this is one of the few collectors editions that makes it worth while buying, they normally just come with a weapon or a skin for shepard or something. They probably developed this character BECAUSE they planned on a collectors edition, so you wouldn't have the chance of getting your precious prothean if it weren't for the collectors edition in the first place. People that pay that extra bit of money will probably want something cool in their game, and they will get it. This will probably not change much to do with the game, other than adding 1 more loyalty mission in, it's not like they'll hide any of the plot from you because of it.

This isn't hiding part of the original game from you like in dragon age, this is giving the collectors edition some meaning for once.