Well... he is kinda right on that, the voice actors kinda missed it.Rutawitz said:
Better doesn't mean good, ya know.
Why i hate fallout 3.
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Better doesn't mean good, ya know.
Fallout 3 is complete shit because it is supposed to be a game of heavy choice and consequence but has absolutely none. Nothing you do matters. Some of what you say I agree with and the other part I don't. I mean liking a setting like fallout's or the name like brotherhood of steel, or disliking it is your opinion. I happen to like both of these things. The problem is that Bethesda hasn't been good in making RPG's since morrowind. Even Oblivion was complete shit, but it was better than fallout simply because of the guild quests.
The only good quest from Fallout 3 was the replicated man. That was it. The main storyline was terrible, the characters are unconvincing, character development is shotty and you develop no relationship with them. Of course the voice acting is atrocious just like in oblivion and the writing is actually worse. All you have to do is walk into megaton your first time and you can see how bad it is going to be.
The AI is fucking terrible. Your companions run off like morons and you have no control over their movements. Enemy troops just sit in front of you out in the open or just charge in like retards. The combat is mediocre and sometimes when you have a clear shot of something, some invisible polygon blocks the shot.
The animations are also god awful. The worst fucking things ever. Modders can and do a better job than bethesda ever will and that goes for oblivion as well. There is no sex what so ever, no relationship sub plot and zero adult themes or humour what so ever. I laughed 3 fucking times throughout the whole game. That was not spoken dialogue, I had to read that on a computer monitor. I saw where they were going for the humor but it was so childish and stupid it was sad.
Not to mention they fucking butchered harold.
The only reason why people like this game is because of the exploration, and the "cool shit" like explosions and heads being blown off. It is actually worse than farcry 2 and has less staying power. At least farcry 2 had good voice acing and combat.
The only good quest from Fallout 3 was the replicated man. That was it. The main storyline was terrible, the characters are unconvincing, character development is shotty and you develop no relationship with them. Of course the voice acting is atrocious just like in oblivion and the writing is actually worse. All you have to do is walk into megaton your first time and you can see how bad it is going to be.
The AI is fucking terrible. Your companions run off like morons and you have no control over their movements. Enemy troops just sit in front of you out in the open or just charge in like retards. The combat is mediocre and sometimes when you have a clear shot of something, some invisible polygon blocks the shot.
The animations are also god awful. The worst fucking things ever. Modders can and do a better job than bethesda ever will and that goes for oblivion as well. There is no sex what so ever, no relationship sub plot and zero adult themes or humour what so ever. I laughed 3 fucking times throughout the whole game. That was not spoken dialogue, I had to read that on a computer monitor. I saw where they were going for the humor but it was so childish and stupid it was sad.
Not to mention they fucking butchered harold.
The only reason why people like this game is because of the exploration, and the "cool shit" like explosions and heads being blown off. It is actually worse than farcry 2 and has less staying power. At least farcry 2 had good voice acing and combat.
Again, you are mixing up the ideas of forming a perspective based upon past actions/ideas and the fresh perspective. He can complain about the game, since he is talking about how it made him feel and aspects he did not like or think were wrong. It doesn't matter whether the past games did things good or bad, its his point of view based on a experience without prior indulgence. He is not entitled to complain about the game if he is comparing it to past games fall out games which he did not play and therefore did not experience first hand.ThrobbingEgo said:
The quality of a game like fallout cannot be determined by absolute fact, it is personal opinion. I understand your feelings on the game and its series may be strong Rak, but that doesn't justify it as fact. It is another opinion along with the OPs. He has the same rights as you to complain about what he believed was wrong, without experience of prior games as long as those are used to justify his argument. The only justification put forth was how he felt on the matter. I'm trying to state this from an objective point, an attempt to separate fact from opinion and his right to speak.
Well I'll agree with the complaints about the Brotherhood of Steel, not joining the Enclave, no ironsights, and while the 50s setting doesn't make sense, I'll agree, I enjoyed it.
But I mean, the game was never meant to be realistic, it was always this far fetched and the entire series has always been that way.
I understand your complaints but this game just obviously wasn't for you, as your biggest complaints seem to be about what many others felt were strengths.
Also, the voice acting in Fallout 3 was way better than it was in Oblivion.
But I mean, the game was never meant to be realistic, it was always this far fetched and the entire series has always been that way.
I understand your complaints but this game just obviously wasn't for you, as your biggest complaints seem to be about what many others felt were strengths.
Also, the voice acting in Fallout 3 was way better than it was in Oblivion.
In Oblivion, you had to join the Blades and destroy the Daedra lord even if you agreed with his reasons. How is this different. I personally thought that Fallout 3 was more immersive and it had better environment that din't look ugly and patchy from a distance. Plus, they had more unique characters, and seemed to habve worked overall a bit harder on it.
You're missing part of my quote.Kuhkmala said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Someone could complain about Shakespeare who doesn't get poetry. What I'm saying was, what he didn't like, involving the setting, is what the Fallout series is all about. It's alright that he didn't like it - he doesn't have to. But to buy the game, play it to completion, and post about how he didn't like the idea of a retrofuturistic setting (when it's all over the promotional material, cover art, reviews, etc) it's ridiculous.
It's like complaining that Stagecoach was a Western. Sure, you're free to not like Westerns, but to fault Stagecoach for being a Western - it's not valid criticism, it's the genre.
So, no, I disagree.
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And I'm not Rak.
Oh balls, don't remind me, that is the reason I tend to avoid civilization that I intend to leave alive after passing through. Also, that one kid in Little Lamplight is a bit out of line, saying He'll blow my ****** head off. He has a bolt action rifle held together with duct tape, I have a minigun. He has a funny hat, I have full-body power-armor. He has a squeaky unbearable voice, I have none.DalekJaas said:
All of that stacking up against him is completely ruining my rage by Bethesda's "No kid-killing" policy, and I'm left listening to the whiny little bastard.
Whoops, missed that extra quote bit, and sorry about the name mix up as well. Considering the topic is entitled "Why i hate fallout 3", yes, yes he can complain about it being retrofuturistic. He doesn't like that genre, therefore he complains about it. It wasn't the entirety of the OPs review, just a part of the whole set of reasons why he disliked the game. Perhaps he wasnt playing it just for the retrofuturistic appeal, but rather for something else like the gameplay aspect or some other reason. I could complain that stagecoach is a western if I don't like western shows. But I may watch it because of good acting and some of the gunfights (or whatever is in the show). Now the gunslinger fights is a part of the western genre, but lets say I only enjoy select pieces of the genre and dislike the majority. Therefore I will still watch stagecoach, complain that its a western, but accept it because it is less important to me than the parts I like.ThrobbingEgo said:
I only kinda agree with #4, I miss the guild quests, but other than that your points don't seem to have a lot of validity other than it's your opinion I guess. But if you don't like the game than don't play it and don't waste your time talking about it. Rather talk about games you like.
