Why I hate World of Warcraft
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I'd like to thank everyone for adding to the discussion, especially Scyrthe, you brought up some good points, and I do admit I'd forgotten about those themed boss fights, some of them did require quite a bit of strategy. I have played quite a few MMO's however, and although some of them are worse then WoW as far as grinding goes, WoW is the only one I've found where the community is single handedly set on everyone getting to maximum level as fast as possible.
and to some of the others, I wasn't looking for a firefight, which is why I tried to be as fair as possible, I just wanted to have a good discussion about it, with a snappy title that would get people a little fired up and have them click on my topic.
and to some of the others, I wasn't looking for a firefight, which is why I tried to be as fair as possible, I just wanted to have a good discussion about it, with a snappy title that would get people a little fired up and have them click on my topic.
I don't like WOW because it stole my friends 
They all started playing it and I put off playing it and eventually they got to level 60 and I started to play, but I was all on my own at level 10 and it kind of sucked. I didn't like the fact that you had to walk everywhere either. I spent half my time walking or flying or drinking. This is why Guild Wars is my favourite MMO (if it can be called that). Fast travel, quick energy regen, balanced, party based combat that requires you to think strategically (with only 8 slots compared to WoW's billion) and better graphics.
They all started playing it and I put off playing it and eventually they got to level 60 and I started to play, but I was all on my own at level 10 and it kind of sucked. I didn't like the fact that you had to walk everywhere either. I spent half my time walking or flying or drinking. This is why Guild Wars is my favourite MMO (if it can be called that). Fast travel, quick energy regen, balanced, party based combat that requires you to think strategically (with only 8 slots compared to WoW's billion) and better graphics.
And I can agree with that. It was just the implied assertion (may not have been intended, I suppose) that that's the only reason people would consistently enjoy the game that I took offense to.Douk said:
Bleh. Those players are either zealously hoping their friends will join them (I kinda wish WoW had something like City of Heroes' sidekicking system for that), or they're incredibly boring...okay, that might be kinda harsh, but I don't really see the appeal in the traditional endgame activities.buckythefly said:
Personally, once I reach max level, I'll either master my profession, or just start focusing more strongly on one of my alts.
The problem being that "not looking for a firefight" isn't usually compatible with "firing people up with the topic title." Trust me, just mentioning WoW at all will bring both proponents and antagonists aplenty to a thread.
Still, if you're still interested in an answer, someone else on the Escapist <url=http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/columns/experienced-points/6110-The-Secret-of-WoW>summed it up better than we ever could.
Im a wow player and I agree with you, its an addiction. It's a fun addicition but now im noticing it for what it is now that im cut off.
But really instead of playing alot of wow Im just posting here alot more...I dont see much of a differnece(productive timewise that is).
But really instead of playing alot of wow Im just posting here alot more...I dont see much of a differnece(productive timewise that is).
im going to say something i said in a differant topic about this, recently WoW has just became boring for me, once your at the lvl cap all there is to do is raid, pvp or grind rep, if your a PvE'r like moi after you get all the current raids good gear its just boring then they release new content and its just the same shit differant raid.
i think one of the worst mistakes Blizz made for wow was raising the fucking level cap, i was so pissed off when TBC was released and all those nice juicy epics id worked hard to get were pretty much all gone within 10 quests of hellfire penninsula, not to mention Outland was shit. then i went through it all over again with Northrend. imo i think they should have added more questing area's, raids, battlegrounds etc etc to give players more variaty but kept the damn level cap at 60.It gets annoying knowing that once you get all decked out in epics its all going to be replaced by the next expansion so wtf is the point really at the moment the only thing thats keeping me going on WoW is the people iv met.
but anyways the other day a friend of mine told me about this MMO called Requiem which is really fun it has WoW's combat system, click on a mob to attack and click your abilitys on the action bar to do your special abilitys (well then again most MMO's have that) but what tops it off for me is that its gory as hell and i love gory games, its fun to play an MMO with friends where you can slice the heads off mobs and watch blood splat everywhere, and to top all that off its free to play, if anyone thinks it sounds good you should definatly give it a little looksieloo (its like a 4hr download though)
i think one of the worst mistakes Blizz made for wow was raising the fucking level cap, i was so pissed off when TBC was released and all those nice juicy epics id worked hard to get were pretty much all gone within 10 quests of hellfire penninsula, not to mention Outland was shit. then i went through it all over again with Northrend. imo i think they should have added more questing area's, raids, battlegrounds etc etc to give players more variaty but kept the damn level cap at 60.It gets annoying knowing that once you get all decked out in epics its all going to be replaced by the next expansion so wtf is the point really at the moment the only thing thats keeping me going on WoW is the people iv met.
but anyways the other day a friend of mine told me about this MMO called Requiem which is really fun it has WoW's combat system, click on a mob to attack and click your abilitys on the action bar to do your special abilitys (well then again most MMO's have that) but what tops it off for me is that its gory as hell and i love gory games, its fun to play an MMO with friends where you can slice the heads off mobs and watch blood splat everywhere, and to top all that off its free to play, if anyone thinks it sounds good you should definatly give it a little looksieloo (its like a 4hr download though)
I see your point and I agree.
I hate playing MMOs at this point. I mean, I gave it an honest try but I never could find one that combined a decent combat system and a community of people willing to not suck.
I hate playing MMOs at this point. I mean, I gave it an honest try but I never could find one that combined a decent combat system and a community of people willing to not suck.
Also forgot to mention, the people. Seems like you either were a bastard to the nice ones or were really unfortionate and didnt see any. But I found a solid group of friends on both servers I went to. I acted slightly worse than I act here(and here im a total douche). I found if I gave people a chance I would find good people and raid/group with them. I still talk to alot of the people I know over vent even with my wow account being canceled.
). I found if I gave people a chance I would find good people and raid/group with them. I still talk to alot of the people I know over vent even with my wow account being canceled.
I stopped reading there. Really? WoW is the worst offender? Other MMOs have much bigger timesinks; games don't get much more casual than WoW. You can accomplish something whether you devote an hour to it or twenty. You've got to play with goals in mind if you don't wanna waste time.buckythefly said:
And really, four hours for a raid isn't bad. Other MMOs have been a lot more hardcore about it. Hell, WoW used to be more hardcore about it. You don't even have to do the whole thing in one go-you can find yourself a casual raiding group and go through a third of it every other night. It practically goes out of its way to ensure that every player can see the content they want to see in their own time. And once you've cleared them a few times those four hour raids are two hours or less. Like the NES games of yore, WoW rewards repetition and memorization.
It's fine if WoW just isn't your thing but if you're going to criticize it at least pick it apart for valid reasons.
What, exactly, would you suggest they do to keep the game interesting without raising the level cap? New gear and quests aren't a big draw if you don't get new abilities, and in WoW you don't get new abilities without more levels. They -could- have just added new abilities, but with the same number of talent points the new builds would likely be unimpressive and if they added more talent points it'd be harder to balance the game through the leveling process.WTFBBQ said:
Furthermore, the xpacs are clearly designed to let new players catch up to everyone else. If everyone remained in the best gear at 60, newbies would always find themselves playing a game of catch-up and that's not very fun. That's how you kill a community. And how do you think they'd be able to add more raids, new areas, and new quests without replacing the epics you worked so hard for? Gear is the name of the game and it always has been; take it out of the picture and the players will be hard pressed to find a compelling reason to keep questing and exploring. No matter how engaging an experience it might be, there has to be some kind of reward or it doesn't work.
If your complaint is that raiding gear gets replaced too quickly, I don't know what you're on. If you had the best gear from WoW's last iteration it will almost always take you through the first major raid dungeon and some pieces might be worth keeping beyond that. Furthermore, you have a huge advantage while leveling.
If WoW's development were left up to the people here and on WoW's forums it would not be the success that it is.
I know, right? I mean, look at <url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh_fPRUdu30>this bozo. All he's doing is pressing the right buttons at the right time, too. He should really play something requiring skill.JWW said:
WoW to me fails completely quite simply because of how damn much it costs. It's a video game THAT YOU CONTINUE TO PAY FOR. Think about it; you pay 15 dollars a month for, let's say 2 years, that alone is $360.00! add all the money you have to pay for the actual GAME, and then all the expansion packs, and you've got the most ridiculous profit margin for a game EVER. really, Blizzard should be praised for the sheer genius of the whole scheme, but honestly, is it really WORTH IT, people? you can play just about ANY game with your friends, and NOT in one that is scientificly DESIGNED to take FOREVER to get to any "good parts".
seriously, weigh the costs of how much fun you've played other games in the past (whether that be Halo, FF, Dragon Age, Assasin's Creed, or just whatever may happen to be your fancy...) against how much fun you've had with WoW, and then compare the costs of the 2 games.
Is WoW REALLY worth at least TEN TIMES more than game 2?
-Take all this and then ADD ON all the complaints from the OP, including all the Dicks in the worlds, mindless grinding, and sheer tme WASTED that could have been put towards other things like school, or social life, or I dunno, Pie-eating, and you've got yourself a clusterfuck.
I understand that some people may have a great deal of fun despite their ocasional boredom of the game (some have said that it gets to the point where the game comes to be like a second JOB rather than a GAME...)but honestly--
IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT.
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did'nt mean for that to turn into a rant,(especially considering I've never even really played the game) but it just seems like WoW is simply ANOTHER case of someone getting away with the biggest scam in history by making a KILLING in profit by passing a mediocre game sheerly because it has a huge fan-base, and miserable people tend to have a lot of free time and money. Seriously, it's only to be rivaled by the likes of Twilight and Perhaps One Piece (although the One Piece debate is NOT one I'm willing to get into...).
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Oh, and sinply to protect against immenent flames, I am by no means in any position to GRADE WoW and in no way am saying it's a BAD game, just asking YOU to grade it, and saying that it is'nt worth it (imo, NO game is worth what you would pay for WoW... plus, I suspect I'm not the type of person to be able to enjoy mindlessly doing ANYTHING or is willing to have ANY of my precious time wasted, least of all in a GAME that I do not enjoy...)
seriously, weigh the costs of how much fun you've played other games in the past (whether that be Halo, FF, Dragon Age, Assasin's Creed, or just whatever may happen to be your fancy...) against how much fun you've had with WoW, and then compare the costs of the 2 games.
Is WoW REALLY worth at least TEN TIMES more than game 2?
-Take all this and then ADD ON all the complaints from the OP, including all the Dicks in the worlds, mindless grinding, and sheer tme WASTED that could have been put towards other things like school, or social life, or I dunno, Pie-eating, and you've got yourself a clusterfuck.
I understand that some people may have a great deal of fun despite their ocasional boredom of the game (some have said that it gets to the point where the game comes to be like a second JOB rather than a GAME...)but honestly--
IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT.
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did'nt mean for that to turn into a rant,(especially considering I've never even really played the game) but it just seems like WoW is simply ANOTHER case of someone getting away with the biggest scam in history by making a KILLING in profit by passing a mediocre game sheerly because it has a huge fan-base, and miserable people tend to have a lot of free time and money. Seriously, it's only to be rivaled by the likes of Twilight and Perhaps One Piece (although the One Piece debate is NOT one I'm willing to get into...).
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Oh, and sinply to protect against immenent flames, I am by no means in any position to GRADE WoW and in no way am saying it's a BAD game, just asking YOU to grade it, and saying that it is'nt worth it (imo, NO game is worth what you would pay for WoW... plus, I suspect I'm not the type of person to be able to enjoy mindlessly doing ANYTHING or is willing to have ANY of my precious time wasted, least of all in a GAME that I do not enjoy...)
To be honest, I want to respond. I want to say something along the lines of0megaZer0 said:
"Oh no! $360 over the course of 2 years?! That's a whole two quarters a day! Madness! MADNESS I SAY!"
or the like. Or possibly pointing out that those other games aren't constantly updated. Or that if you think WoW is difficult to level in, your knowledge of the game stops abruptly in 2005. Or perhaps that if $15 a month is too stringent an investment, you're probably not in an economically sound position for much gaming anyway.
But no, I'm too distracted trying to reconcile all of the bold parts.
I agree with most of what you said. I played for about 14 months and raided for most of that time (I played way too much). Anyway it took me far too long to realize the only thing keeping me in the game was the people I knew on the server. They were some cool people but getting to talk to them on vent while we mindlessly faceroll the same boss one-hundred times over is not worth 12 hours a week, much less 15 dollars a month. I am glad I wised up. Hopefully TOR will offer the kind of MMO experience I am looking for.
