Why I might not buy Half life 3

[NiPah]

I enjoyed Half Life 1 and 2, they were some of my favorite games of all time.
I'm also going to buy Half Life 3 when it comes out, will it suck? maybe, but I haven't played a Valve game that I disliked so I'm not worried.
I see a lot of people saying they didn't like Half Life 2 and it made me think, wow these people center their lives around letting people know how much they disliked something. Honestly I don't remember ever posting about a game I disliked, sure there have been some but they're quickly forgotten, otherwise I'd feel obligated to pop my head into every new fighting game topic and let everyone know how much I disliked Tekken or what ever.
Also all the people who say get your flame shields up for attacking Half Life... Lol read the damn topic people who actually enjoyed Half Life are the minority, it's safer to say you hated HL2 then it is to say you liked it, the persecution complex is cute but completely unwarranted (as if anyone would care about your dislike of a game in the first place).

 

[aguspal]

I actually have thougt about this, and I think that IF HL3 is actually released, they migth update whatever the latest half life game there is (2 episode 2 or something like that), and add some sort of extended ending/easter egg like they did with Portal 1/2.


That migth be cool... anyways other than that I hate HL with a passion because of it begin overrated as hell. But I am still kind of intriged by it nonetheless...

 

[IamLEAM1983]

So, OP, what you're saying is that you're coming down with Hype Exhaustion. Here's the best remedy for that, and that applies to everything in life. Not just video games.

Have zero expectations. Precisely zero.

I know it's hard. I know it's easy to buy into the yearly rigmaroles where publishers and devs claim to have made or to be working on the best thing ever sinced sliced bread. I know it's fun to feel the anticipation, to watch quality product take shape over the months and years. I know fishing for previews and demos and press builds can be entertaining.

In the case of behemoth projects like Half-Life 3, however? You're better off not doing any of the above. Let the HL3 Cabal do its thing, in the full knowledge that you might feel as though something's been lost over the years. For all you know, something's been gained on a design or gameplay perspective, and this'll actually be an awesome game! However - the fact is that right here, right now, you know as much as we do about the game.

That is to say, very little, if not nothing at all.

Duke Nukem Forever should have taught us that, honestly. Don't torture yourself with expectations, don't silently plead for your favourite devs to meet certain "must-have" requirements you've kept somewhere in the back of your mind. Just follow along with the industry, safe in the knowledge that Valve is doing the exact same thing.

So what's going to come out of Half-Life 3? I don't know and nor do I want to know. At least, not until previews are shown.

When is it coming out? Rumours started to circulate about it ten years ago. I was a young twentysomething with specific wants and needs. I now am thirty and have other wants and needs. I like to think I've grown wiser, and I think I have, in that I no longer drive myself crazy with due dates for games.

It's out there and it's being worked on. That's all that matters.

Otherwise? Carpe Diem or something.

 

[moseythepirate]

Love the people that raise their noses and go "Hmpf, Half life 2? Wasnt that good anyway. *sniff*"

I'd love to see people in 2004 sit and play that game, compare it to the rest of the stuff that was out back then, and go, honestly and seriously: "uugh, this is crap."

Those kind of replies just seems like another "buuh, too mainstream!"-go.
Sometimes mainstream is good. Half-life2 was one of the highest rated(if not THE highest rated) game in gaming history for a reason.

As for comparing it today? The game is almost ten years old. For a game of that age, I'd say it does -very- well. But if you honestly buy that game today and expect it to hold up much to modern titles, you got your expectations a bit weirded out.

Hmm, you know, you have a point. What else came out this year? By what you're saying, there must have been nothing good in order for it to stand out so much. Let's take a look...

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Pikmin 2
Painkiller
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War
Star Wars Battlefront
Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
Fable
Doom 3 (What? I liked Doom 3!)
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Halo 2

Oh yeah, and WORLD OF WARCRAFT.

Yeah, nothing good in THAT list, that's for sure.

Sorry, but the claim that Half-Life 2 was some breathe of fresh air in a sea of mediocrity just doesn't hold water. Nor, I believe, that it is some wonderful foundation for games like Bioshock (especially when you consider how similar Bioshock is to System Shock 2, I don't think Bioshock needed HL2, honestly). It wasn't the first game with a good story without cutscenes (though if you ask me, it does have cutscenes, you're just allowed to jump on table while they play out). It wasn't the only great FPS game that year. It sure as hell wasn't the most influential game of that year either.

In fact, I would say that 2004 in general was a stand-out year, one of the finest around. Looking at that list, it seems like we really start to see a transition to the trends seen in more recent years...interesting. I'm not saying Half-Life 2 is bad and it is certainly influential, but it seems like it's biggest contribution has been to Valve itself, rather than the medium as a whole.

 

[w9496]

I have a very small interest in HL3. I wasn't exactly wowed by Half-Life 1 or 2(or episode 1/2), but if it is released and does away with that stupid Source engine bullshit then I will probably rent it at least.

 

[Gameguy20100]

...sorry, why may you not buy a game that you don't know anything about yet?

I fail to see the purpose of this thread.

In classic Escapist Forum fashion, this thread is designed to berate and condescend to any and all Valve/Steam/Half-Life fans that may still be around. And, just like the many before it, it is thinly veiled under a "question for discussion".

They're a common occurrence. We tend to see them, in one form or another, at least twice a week. They've followed this pattern of appearance for at least five years now, if not longer.

You just sort of learn to put up with them. Or just ignore them. (the smarter move)

Which probably leaves you wondering, "Why did you post in here then if you've seen so many?"

I don't know, honestly. Maybe I was hoping that, just this once, the discussion would actually be a fucking discussion and not just a useless rant or a "lets pick on the Valve fans" thread.

Or maybe I'm a closet masochist and like torturing myself with pointless aggravations. I just don't know.

You like Half life great but accept that people will disagree with you I accept that people hate Legacy of Kain despite the fact that I love those games( If my Avatar didn't make that obvious )

Maybe it's because you're not a fan of the games; and in some occasions one of the outspoken detractors; but there's a difference between accepting that others may not like what you like and constantly...incessantly...being picked on and questioned for your opinion.

You've been on the forum for at least a year, so I'm going to assume you've noticed the absolutely immense number of threads that start with an OP bitching about Half-Life being "overrated" or "bad" or some such thing. And, in many of them, the fans are often portrayed in a very negative and very insulting manner.

How many other games or game series do you see receiving that kind of negativity towards the source material or its fans on this site? For that matter, how many do you see receiving even half that level of ire?

The only ones that come remotely close are Halo and Call of Duty.

My point is, the vast majority of us that are fans of the series know perfectly well that there are people that don't share our opinions. Anyone with half a brain cell knows opinions differ. However, when you're made to feel like garbage for having an opinion, and treated like you're an "idiot" or a "blind fanboy/sheeple", there's only so much you're willing to take before you say something back.

I will admit it is slightly annoying seeing those threads, but so is being called a "hipster douche" or "not a real gamer" because I don't like what some people consider a holy grail of pc gameing.

Just like what you like If anyone says your wrong for liking or not liking something they are an asshole.

I hate to be so black and white buddy but some people are just assholes and that's not my opinion that's fact.

 

[Bertylicious]

I love Valve and will buy almost anything they sell but I've been waiting for Half Life 3 for so long now that the words have lost all meaning.

 

[TreuloseTomate]

HL2 is the best PC game ever made, followed by Deus Ex, Jagged Alliance 2 and System Shock 2. You can disagree with that, but then you are wrong. That's a fact.

 

[Vigormortis]

I will admit it is slightly annoying seeing those threads, but so is being called a "hipster douche" or "not a real gamer" because I don't like what some people consider a holy grail of pc gameing.

Just like what you like If anyone says your wrong for liking or not liking something they are an asshole.

I hate to be so black and white buddy but some people are just assholes and that's not my opinion that's fact.

Of course some people are just assholes. That's a given.

And, as for me, I don't care what someone does or doesn't like. Opinion is opinion and everyone's welcome to their own version of them.

But my point is, some (and strong emphasis on some) Half-Life fans can get touchy around here because they're faced with pejorative-based ridicule on a weekly basis.

No other fan base, save for maybe bronies, faces that kind of animosity around here. None.

Most "Half-Life sucks" threads go by unnoticed. Most don't even get more than half a page of replies. But again, when we see an average of two a week, it gets a bit grating. (though, thankfully, that number seems to be dwindling)

Hell, just as you said about yourself, even the people that aren't fans of the games, and even those that hate them, are starting to get sick of those kinds of threads.

Besides, for every jerk that calls someone a "hipster" because that someone says they hate Half-Life, you see at least two people calling someone a tasteless idiot for liking the games. I could give you a rather lengthy list...a literal list...of Escapist posters that make a point of showing up in Valve related threads just to tell people how awful Half-Life was and how brainless the fans are. (and many on that list do the same for MLP threads, Steam threads, Call of Duty threads, Halo threads, etc, etc)

[sub]I could, but I won't. That would not only be against Forum rules but would paint me as a douche-bag.[/sub]

Frankly, I just don't get why gamers have become so damned childish. So confrontational. What the hell is wrong with people that they can't let someone like something without berating that person?

I don't go around lambasting people for liking Mass Effect, even though I'm very much in the 'dislike' camp on those. I don't go into Dragon Age themed threads to tell the fans how bored I was with those games. I just leave them alone to relish in their own fandom.

What kind of asshole derives pleasure from shitting on others parades? It's just rude. I think that is something we both can agree on.

Also all the people who say get your flame shields up for attacking Half Life... Lol read the damn topic people who actually enjoyed Half Life are the minority, it's safer to say you hated HL2 then it is to say you liked it, the persecution complex is cute but completely unwarranted (as if anyone would care about your dislike of a game in the first place).

You see, it's easier and safer to be cruel and insulting towards a group if you feign being persecuted by that group.

For example, and I hate to go all Godwin in here but, you can say almost any mean-spirited thing about a German so long as you illicit the mental image of a Nazi first.

This is exactly why we see so many condescending posts saying things like, "Oh no! You dared to question the godlike status of Half-Life?! Better get your flame shield out!"

HL2 is the best PC game ever made, followed by Deus Ex, Jagged Alliance 2 and System Shock 2. You can disagree with that, but then you are wrong. That's a fact.

Don't be rude, please. You're not helping things.

 

[Gameguy20100]

I will admit it is slightly annoying seeing those threads, but so is being called a "hipster douche" or "not a real gamer" because I don't like what some people consider a holy grail of pc gameing.

Just like what you like If anyone says your wrong for liking or not liking something they are an asshole.

I hate to be so black and white buddy but some people are just assholes and that's not my opinion that's fact.

Of course some people are just assholes. That's a given.

And, as for me, I don't care what someone does or doesn't like. Opinion is opinion and everyone's welcome to their own version of them.

But my point is, some (and strong emphasis on some) Half-Life fans can get touchy around here because they're faced with pejorative-based ridicule on a weekly basis.

No other fan base, save for maybe bronies, faces that kind of animosity around here. None.

Most "Half-Life sucks" threads go by unnoticed. Most don't even get more than half a page of replies. But again, when we see an average of two a week, it gets a bit grating. (though, thankfully, that number seems to be dwindling)

Hell, just as you said about yourself, even the people that aren't fans of the games, and even those that hate them, are starting to get sick of those kinds of threads.

Besides, for every jerk that calls someone a "hipster" because that someone says they hate Half-Life, you see at least two people calling someone a tasteless idiot for liking the games. I could give you a rather lengthy list...a literal list...of Escapist posters that make a point of showing up in Valve related threads just to tell people how awful Half-Life was and how brainless the fans are. (and many on that list do the same for MLP threads, Steam threads, Call of Duty threads, Halo threads, etc, etc)

[sub]I could, but I won't. That would not only be against Forum rules but would paint me as a douche-bag.[/sub]

Frankly, I just don't get why gamers have become so damned childish. So confrontational. What the hell is wrong with people that they can't let someone like something without berating that person?

I don't go around lambasting people for liking Mass Effect, even though I'm very much in the 'dislike' camp on those. I don't go into Dragon Age themed threads to tell the fans how bored I was with those games. I just leave them alone to relish in their own fandom.

What kind of asshole derives pleasure from shitting on others parades? It's just rude. I think that is something we both can agree on.

Also all the people who say get your flame shields up for attacking Half Life... Lol read the damn topic people who actually enjoyed Half Life are the minority, it's safer to say you hated HL2 then it is to say you liked it, the persecution complex is cute but completely unwarranted (as if anyone would care about your dislike of a game in the first place).

You see, it's easier and safer to be cruel and insulting towards a group if you feign being persecuted by that group.

For example, and I hate to go all Godwin in here but, you can say almost any mean-spirited thing about a German so long as you illicit the mental image of a Nazi first.

This is exactly why we see so many condescending posts saying things like, "Oh no! You dared to question the godlike status of Half-Life?! Better get your flame shield out!"

HL2 is the best PC game ever made, followed by Deus Ex, Jagged Alliance 2 and System Shock 2. You can disagree with that, but then you are wrong. That's a fact.

Don't be rude, please. You're not helping things.

You know I like you your alright.

now if people on 4chan behaved like you I would probably still have my original email address.

 

[MHR]

And yet if it does come out and the inevitable 8.5-10/10 ratings come out OP will be one of the people buying it the first week. DNF had an incompetent monkey staff that got sued for incompetence. Valve is Valve.

Don't even pretend you'd hipster it out. Not foolin' anyone

Captcha; beautiful friendship

 

[Woodsey]

It's been so damn long, DNF long

Uh, no. DNF went for 15 years. Episode 2 came out in 2007. That's 6 years, not "nearly 10" and nowhere near Duke Nukem's standard.

 

[Elijin]

I expect HL3 to live up to my expectations. They arent high.

1. Be on sale at some point.
2. Dont give me a headache (the episodes did, and few of my friends complained about it too, we could never pinpoint why.)

Bam!